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Old 08-12-2017, 03:11 AM   #1
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Cool new engine option on the 747

Not too upset about it. But I've been having a run of bad luck with Gemini lately. This is the 2nd model in a row w/the detached engine problem. I'm debating on whether to return it, or go ahead and glue the engines back on. All I've got is Elmer's Glue-All at the moment.

Also ignoring the detached engines, this is a very nice model. I was a little skeptical about the Air China livery. But in person it's very nice! Pictures don't do it justice.
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I recently received a JC Wings United DC-10 with a detached starboard engine. Not too big of an issue I thought until I discovered the pylon was for the port side. So the seller had the factor send me the correct one, but it is practically impossible to remove the original engine from the pylon in order to make the repair. Now the manufacturer is sending me an engine too, which I can only hope is the correct starboard one with the printing on the outside so I can get this fixed. Otherwise, a really beautiful model.
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Old 08-12-2017, 03:28 PM   #3
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Awesome JC Wings is willing to work with you. I haven't encountered an issue like that before; definitely is a much bigger hassle than my problem. I Wonder how that made it through quality control.

The Gemini model I picked up before this one was a Delta MD-11, starboard engine and pylon were detached. From what I hear though you have to expect it every now and then with all these models. Though, so far I've had no problems with my recent IF pick ups.

Anyone have any recommendations on glue? Would Elmer's Glue All be enough? I've used it for landing gear and antennas, however with engines I feel like they're too heavy for Elmer's to be effective.
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Elmers glue will be fine. You can use super glue if you really want but don't use too much and make sure you don't get any where you don't want it because it won't be coming off. I wouldn't bother on returning it. That's an easy fix.
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Most of the time I use Elmer's. I had a couple A340s with the horizontal stabs floating in the box. Used super glue on them. But be very careful.

In re: getting parts from JCW, did you deal directly with Johan, or is there somebody Stateside? I'm having a heck of a time getting a flap hinge cover for a 717. Johan said he mailed it, end of June and it's still not here.
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Thanks for the advice everyone. I'll use Elmer's.
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Awesome JC Wings is willing to work with you. I haven't encountered an issue like that before; definitely is a much bigger hassle than my problem. I Wonder how that made it through quality control.

The Gemini model I picked up before this one was a Delta MD-11, starboard engine and pylon were detached. From what I hear though you have to expect it every now and then with all these models. Though, so far I've had no problems with my recent IF pick ups.

Anyone have any recommendations on glue? Would Elmer's Glue All be enough? I've used it for landing gear and antennas, however with engines I feel like they're too heavy for Elmer's to be effective.
Ironically this is not the first time this exact thing has happened. I encountered the same problem with my Inflight 200 TWA 747SP. Fortunately the retailer had parts available so it was an easy fix.
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This has happened to me a couple of times. My greatest peeves is when an antenna is off. Incidentally, are there diecast 767, A340-300, 777 engines sets for sale out there?
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I recently received a JC Wings United DC-10 with a detached starboard engine. Not too big of an issue I thought until I discovered the pylon was for the port side. So the seller had the factor send me the correct one, but it is practically impossible to remove the original engine from the pylon in order to make the repair. Now the manufacturer is sending me an engine too, which I can only hope is the correct starboard one with the printing on the outside so I can get this fixed. Otherwise, a really beautiful model.
Are you sure? Jc wings doesn't make DC10'S, must have been an inflight model...
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:52 PM   #10
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I ordered the 747-8i qatar and the starboard outer engine also came loose . looks like a common defect for this production line ;(
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I just had a GJ NCA 748F arrive with the exact same issue. (2) outer engines completely off... a little super glue did the trick, and she's all ready!
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:29 PM   #12
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I just ordered that model too. Fingers crossed that all 4 engines are attached. It will be my first freighter

It is kind of unfortunate that it's became a problem though. It is easy to fix, but how hard is it to ensure that a sufficient amount of glue was used for attaching engines? It's not rocket science to reglue them back on so what gives...
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Are you sure? Jc wings doesn't make DC10'S, must have been an inflight model...
You are correct, it is J Fox model.
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Old 09-07-2017, 05:59 AM   #14
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So I was sent a new pylon, the correct one, for this model, but I cannot dislodge the old engine from the wrong pylon to make the repair. Any suggestions???
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Cool new engine option on the 747
Isn't this the B747-8i 4EO?
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Old 12-24-2017, 03:26 PM   #16
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Just saw this thread, and my Pan am 747-8 was delivered the exact same way, except both horizontal stabilizers were also detached.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:35 AM   #17
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I had the same issue with my BBox korean air 747-8 model. Outer engines came loose..
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This proves that quality inspection is decreasing and losing it's quality... they really need to do a better job doing the quality checks...

Unless it happened due to rough handling during the shipping sessions?
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Old 12-26-2017, 11:51 AM   #19
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Strange though that it is always the outer engines that detach on these models during shipping.
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Strange though that it is always the outer engines that detach on these models during shipping.
In my opinion that is not strange and also, in my opinion, it has not much to do with quality inspection as well.

The reason for these parts to come off imho is that they can (and will) move up and down in the foam since these parts are not supported at all inside the foam.
A box containing a model in shipment will/can fall and/or will be shaken or whatever can happen in transport that can cause "trauma" to a parcel.

Due to the fact that these parts (engines and stabilizers in particular) have "open" space beneath them, they Are most likely to come off when a parcel is handled rough in transport. The outer engine for example will move around a lot more than the inner engine as the end of the wing will move much more than the part that is connected directly to the fusilage.

When we have to ship these models, we check if everything is connected correctly and then we support most of these (above mentioned) parts inside the foam cover resulting in (close to) 0% complaints of loose parts.
We do this with every 1:200 scale model that ships out that really need support around fragile parts, even the smaller sized 1:200 scale models (like te stabilizers of the MD-80 models for example)

I wont say that this is the only solution'to prevent loose/detached parts, as it still can happen but it won't hurt to add this support also.
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