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Old 07-23-2017, 01:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am getting a few 1/200 to my collection of mostly 1/400. removable gears and spinning engines are very high criteria on my list as well as overall quality.

Kinda disappointed that phoenix gears are not removable. Is herpa/hogan gear removable? i think they do have spinning engine fans

So does it mean for the criteria of removable gears and spinning engine, gemini/jc wings are my best bet? what about inflight 200 or anyone else?
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Hogan has removable landing gear on all of their models. Not sure about the latest wide bodies, but I don't think most of the narrow body Herpa models have removable landing gear. Both have movable fan blades.

JC Wings, Gemini, and Inflight all have removable gear and spinning engine fans on most of their wide body models. Narrow body models are hit and miss for the removable landing gear. Phoenix has only spinning engine fan blades.

LOTS of controversy about which one is best, and WAY too much previous discuss on that topic. Generally, buy the model or livery that you want. Inflight, JC Wings and Gemini (made in the JCW factory) are all about the same with more difference between molds than brands. A few exceptions are I personally don't like the nose shape and cockpit window printing on the JCW/Gemini 777 and A320/A330/A340 models, and the long/extended landing gear on the current JCW/Gemini 777 and 787 models just looks toy like and silly to me. I also prefer the final sanding and paint finish on the Inflight models.

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I have models from all three. The Inflight 747s don't have removable gear, nor do they swivel. Their Triple 7s do both swivel and are removable. The bogies must swivel if it's going to be put on the stand.

Both 747 molds have their merits. Go for the livery you want in most cases.
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I have models from all three. The Inflight 747s don't have removable gear, nor do they swivel. Their Triple 7s do both swivel and are removable. The bogies must swivel if it's going to be put on the stand.

Both 747 molds have their merits. Go for the livery you want in most cases.
That sucks... so i guess if removable gears is my thing, I should stick mostly to Jc wings/gemini with just about all their recent models have this?

I have this fetish for removable gears which is why i like 1/400 Dragon even though a lot of people dont due to various valid reasons.
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The Inflight 747s don't have removable gear, nor do they swivel. Their Triple 7s do both swivel and are removable. The bogies must swivel if it's going to be put on the stand.
Oops! You're right about the IF 747s. Not sure why I didn't remember that since I've got several IF 747s. Still both are nice models but if you want a 747 swiveling, removable landing gear. JCW/GJ is the choice.

The IF 777-300ERs do swivel as mentioned above, but the current JCW/GJ will not swivel to a realistic angle due to the hydrolic strut on the front of the landing gear strut. The gear only move a little, but not enough.
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what about smaller planes like erj-145 or atr-72? do jc wings/gemini vers of these smaller planes have removable gears and spinning engines?
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I personally prefer Gemini Jets/ JC Wings to other manufacturers. It appears that they share the same moulds on most of their models and they usually come with removable landing gears on the wide bodies.
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I personally prefer Gemini Jets/ JC Wings to other manufacturers. It appears that they share the same moulds on most of their models and they usually come with removable landing gears on the wide bodies.
can anyone tell me if the gears on jc wings/gemini smaller planes like erj-145 or atr-72 are removable or if engine spin? thanks
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can anyone tell me if the gears on jc wings/gemini smaller planes like erj-145 or atr-72 are removable or if engine spin? thanks
Yes the gears are removable. You have to push real hard with your finger and with enough pressure they will snap off and break..

Once the N2 and EGT looks good then yes the engines will start and or spin.

May I make a suggestion....Living in Miami you are very fortunate to have 2 Airplane Shop stores in your backyard with thousands of models on display. Why not pay a visit look around and buy the model of your choice.
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Yes the gears are removable. You have to push real hard with your finger and with enough pressure they will snap off and break..

Once the N2 and EGT looks good then yes the engines will start and or spin.

May I make a suggestion....Living in Miami you are very fortunate to have 2 Airplane Shop stores in your backyard with thousands of models on display. Why not pay a visit look around and buy the model of your choice.
lol... that sucks b/c i was really hoping for removable gears and spinning engines. I;ve always has this liking for the erj-145. It just plain looks good!

was really hoping that they would make it with spinning engines and removable gears. guess the smallest one jc wings make with removable gears would be the 737/a32x?
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I don't think the GJ A320s have removable gear either.
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I used to have to gemini DC8'S with retractable landing gears! They were in 1:250 scale. Wonder when the first 1:200 will appear with retractable gears The question of wich manufacturer make the best planes is a personal matter, go to a shop and decide for yourself.
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I don't think the GJ A320s have removable gear either.
so 737 gears are removable but a32x's are not? that sucks
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I usually go for the best model of the airliner I'm looking to collect. This is regardless of manufacturer. That might be the question you want to look for answers - who make the best 747? who make the best 777 etc...
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i guess i should have put my questions a little clearer. which models are the ones that have both removable gears and spinning engines.

Seems like what i am getting is that jc wings/gemini and hogan are the only ones? and even then it's inconsistent as only the widebodies from jc wings and gemini have removable gears? but then seems like the 737 do have removable gears but a32x does not? I am hoping that there should be enough people with these models around here to let me know.

obviously if the models have atrocious quality then i wouldn't want them even if it has those two features and i hope someone would also note that. but in general as far as things goes, which models/manufacturers have removable gears and spinning engines? Much appreciated if this can be answered. thanks.

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i guess i should have put my questions a little clearer. which models are the ones that have both removable gears and spinning engines.

Seems like what i am getting is that jc wings/gemini and hogan are the only ones? and even then it's inconsistent as only the widebodies from jc wings and gemini have removable gears? but then seems like the 737 do have removable gears but a32x does not? I am hoping that there should be enough people with these models around here to let me know. .
That pretty much sums it up except the smaller models, like the EMB-190 only have spinning engine fans and ATR 72s have moving propellers but not removable landing gear.

And I stand corrected about Inflight models. Only the 777-300ER models seem to have removable landing gear so far. Nor sure about the new A330 mold, but their 787 model does not have removable gear either.

All JCW, GJ, IF and PH commercial aircraft models should have spinning engine fans or propellers, with maybe a few exceptions with the smaller coporate sized jets, like the IF Lockheed Jetstars.

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If dragon wing is still in the market as well as making 1/200 we would have a lot more models with removable gears
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Yes the gears are removable. You have to push real hard with your finger and with enough pressure they will snap off and break..

Once the N2 and EGT looks good then yes the engines will start and or spin.

May I make a suggestion....Living in Miami you are very fortunate to have 2 Airplane Shop stores in your backyard with thousands of models on display. Why not pay a visit look around and buy the model of your choice.
I have to say this is the best comment on DAC this year.
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Yes the gears are removable. You have to push real hard with your finger and with enough pressure they will snap off and break..

Once the N2 and EGT looks good then yes the engines will start and or spin.

May I make a suggestion....Living in Miami you are very fortunate to have 2 Airplane Shop stores in your backyard with thousands of models on display. Why not pay a visit look around and buy the model of your choice.
But the engine have to spin first before the N2 and EGT can look good....
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I do also love removeable gear, and have always found it strange that a 1/200 replica that costs more than,
what to say 60 dollar ++ comes with that bloody boring fixed gear... (Removable gear gives you two
possibilities of seeing or displaying the beauty of the aircraft = double joy = more to love).

However, among the GJ narrowbodies: 737's and 757's comes with removable gear. Old 737's releases (737-700 and 737-800)
had spinning fan blades, I am not 100 % sure about if it is still like this. 757's have sort of spinning blades, they will
probably not move if you blow at them, but they probably will if you touch them gently with a toothpick or whatever :-)

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Simple answer - Martin Beacom at Bees Models. Expensive but superb!
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Having a brick and mortar store in your hometown, (in this case not one but two Airplane Shop locations) is something only 1% of the collectors out there can take advantage of..Our Toronto friends know what I am talking about.

Instead of a million useless questions, why not just pay a visit?

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[QUOTE=crownvic;2438618]Having a brick and mortar store in your hometown, (in this case not one but two Airplane Shop locations) is something only 1% of the collectors out there can take advantage of..Our Toronto friends know what I am talking about.

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Yes, we have AV World Toronto and Threshold Aviation; and if you to take a 45 minute drive west of Toronto to Kitchener/Waterloo you also have another 'brick n mortar' store called Spitfire Emporium (mostly military and a few civilian models). Cheers! T7
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Having a brick and mortar store in your hometown, (in this case not one but two Airplane Shop locations) is something only 1% of the collectors out there can take advantage of..Our Toronto friends know what I am talking about.

Instead of a million useless questions, why not just pay a visit?
Seriously - the 'best manufacturer' or 'best model' is a personal choice.

Go to the stores and see what things you like and choose for yourself.

For example - my favourite 747 moulds are Inflight because of the crisp landing gears - they are not removable but the detail I really appreciate. Also (especially on the earlier 744s) there are more antennas and light details.

Some may say that the wing joint and other details on the JC Wings make them better - but it comes down to what you consider more important.

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However, among the GJ narrowbodies: 737's and 757's comes with removable gear. Old 737's releases (737-700 and 737-800)
had spinning fan blades, I am not 100 % sure about if it is still like this. 757's have sort of spinning blades, they will
probably not move if you blow at them, but they probably will if you touch them gently with a toothpick or whatever :-)
I just bought a trio of new GJ 737s and unfortunately none of the fan blades spin. Personally, it doesn't bother me; I would only care if the models were on display in a wind tunnel.

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I just bought a trio of new GJ 737s and unfortunately none of the fan blades spin. Personally, it doesn't bother me; I would only care if the models were on display in a wind tunnel.

Oh yeah, I'm new here. Lurked for a while and finally decided to join. I've been collecting on and off for a couple years now.

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As we all know, I am a die-hard 1:200 747 collector and my fave is of course, Inflight200. Especially the older releases.

Got a stunning Inflight200 Oasis 747-400 today and I LOVE IT

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Chances are you can find a decent YouTube review of what you're contemplating buying. That's a resource I use quite a bit.
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i don't know if i can afford to spurge much into 1/200 anymore. I've just got eleven 1/200 the last few days, almost all jc wings:

Qatar Boeing 747-8 Intercontinental Reg: A7-HHE 1:200 Diecast Models XX2490

AeroMexico ERJ145 Reg:XA-YLI scale 1:200 die-cast models XX2517

Vietnam Airlines A321 Reg:VN-A327 "Skyteam" JC Wings 1:200 Diecast Models XX2482

BOAC Aérospatiale/BAC Concorde G-BOAC JC Wings 1:200 Diecast Models XX2494

Air France A380 F-HPJE "Chine France 50" JC Wings 1:200 Diecast Model XX2451

Mandarin Airlines Boeing 737-800 B-18659 JC Wings 1:200 Diecast Models XX2862

Eva Air B777-300ER "OC" Reg B-16712 JC Wings 1:200 XX2781

SAA A340-600 "Star Alliance " ZS-SNC " JC Wings 1:200 Diecast XX2489

Boeing 787-9 Reg:CC-BGA JC Wings 1:200 Diecast XX2228

Qatar A350 XWB Reg F-WZNW JC Wings 1:200 Diecast XX2937

Herpa B-2 Spirit of Texas 1:200

Also got this one just b/c it was available at bargain price:

Grand China Express ERJ-145LR B-3033 Aviation200 1:200 AV2145003

kinda broke for this month now...lol....

One nice thing about 1/200 is that you got a few more aircrafts that are not available in 1/400.

It's definitely a lot more expensive though. I am also disappointed with the lack of removable landing gears which is standard feature i've kinda taken for grant on Dragon wings, which is what my 1/400 collections of around 150+ are mostly of.
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Chances are you can find a decent YouTube review of what you're contemplating buying. That's a resource I use quite a bit.
But a lot of them don't make an emphasis on whether the gears are removable. most talk about spinning engine and paint and antennas.
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But a lot of them don't make an emphasis on whether the gears are removable. most talk about spinning engine and paint and antennas.
MJITHD and Triple7DieHard always mention if the gear tilts and is removable. They'll even comment on whether the gears roll easily.
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