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Old 07-15-2017, 10:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This beauty the latest ARD200 model B707-436 in the speed bird livery of BOAC
G-ARRC also has the polished fuselage.

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Old 07-15-2017, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have to admit it does look lovely, but I baulked at the £90 asking price. Too rich for my wallet at the moment.
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Old 07-15-2017, 01:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The old cheatline problem
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Having defended ARD200 products in the past I'm struggling a bit with this one. There's something wrong with the cheatline. I thought it was the shape at first as rather than the majestic curve of the lower edge appears to be more angular on the model. However, looking at pictures of BOAC's 707-436s it seems that the model has it correct. The -336s had the curved cheatline, the -446s didn't.

However, whilst the shape of the cheatline might be right (give or take) it appears to be printed too high. It seems to be positioned between cockpit and tailplane which is where you'd think it should be but there is too much fuselage below it and not enough above. I'm actually thinking the unloved Herpa 707-436 in this livery is a better bet.
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I wanted to get this model but after I got the ARD email earlier today and saw the picture of this release I immediately realised the error and consider it such a crying shame. The cheat line doesn't have enough depth on it below the BOAC legend and has that too high issue. I find sometimes when you have a model in hand the slight imperfections become irrelevant but this seems too hard to over look. I reckon Herpa did nail it on their version but unfortunately their engines don't have that elegant shape that the Conways had, that Inflight have managed to get. We need to crossbreed the two.

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And as I already said before the other problem is the wing …

To make their B 707-320/420, Inflight used the wing of a B 707-320 B.
But the two wings are different.

The wing of the Herpa B 707-320/420 is correct.

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And as I already said before the other problem is the wing …

To make their B 707-320/420, Inflight used the wing of a B 707-320 B.
But the two wings are different.

The wing of the Herpa B 707-320/420 is correct.

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but the fuselage looks too fat.
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Hi stevec,

Very nice model indeed.



Thanks for posting the pics.

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The problem with ARD and few other manufacturers looks like they don't lisent to collectors !!!!

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but the fuselage looks too fat.
It is true that the Herpa fuselage cross section is a bit oversized.
I consider it is a mistake.

I have Herpa B 707-320s and Inflight B 707-320 Bs placed side by side in my cabinet and the difference is unnoticeable.
I am tempted to say that the two models are "compatible".

As far as the wing of the Inflight B 707-320/420 is concerned, it is not a mistake, it was intentional.
That's what I have against Inflight.

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The model looks like an HERPA one .
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Denis, just look at the engine pylons with this seam to accommodate RR engines …
It is a pure Inflight product.

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The old cheatline problem
...just like on nearly any other "Inflight" and "Blue Box" 707-release.


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The model looks like an HERPA one .
Nope - as others have already said: Although "Herpa's" 707-fuselage is a bit "bubbly"they still managed to get the cheatline right.
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The cheatline problem is caused by inaccuracies in the mould. The cheatline is supposed to bisect the cockpit windows and stabilisers exactly as the printed model has done, the problem is, this causes it to look completely wrong because the mould is wrong. The old adage goes.. you can't polish a turd.. But you can roll it in glitter..
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