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as Herpa screwed the An-225....(though i can't understand that beacause their 1/400 mould is amazingly accurate - i got all of them in my collection) ...and as JC just announced that Virgin Galactic stuff.... would a accurately made An-225 generate enough interest to justify a 1/200 diecast mould?! yes, the shipping costs - but such a model you buy once in a lifetime. and remember, you have a diecast A380 aswell, and the weights do not differ THAT much (at least in 1/400).

Same goes for the An-124, hacing the Herpa An-225 mould in mind (though i still think its is a modified PCM mould)... two magnificent (beauty is in the eye of the beholder) but very impressing aircraft, that deserve a better representation than the PCM or Herpa mould!
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What were the issues with Herpa's 225?
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the 1/200 looks like it is made of wood...judge yourself. plus diverse inaccuracies....the second is the 1/400 mould.
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Wow, that had never noticed such divergences! I have the 1/400 and 1/500 mould, and am pretty satisfied with.

Saw the 1/200 for sale once, but the price made me cry blood.
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you can make a acceptable model by retooling it yourself, but honestly, for 230EUR i expect something more that the Herpa attempt! thumbs down on this one Herpa, sorry (one more pic below)!!!
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...and the An-124 should follow, if JC really someday surprises us with the An-225!

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I would hope for an AN-124. I don't think it has been done in 1/200 diecast metal, and I would love to see a model of this aircraft..

The AN-225 has been done before (even though not well) and there may not be enough customers for another run to justify the cost of a new mold. Due to its size, a 1/200 scale AN-225 may not 'fit' into many collector's display space.
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I would hope for an AN-124. I don't think it has been done in 1/200 diecast metal, and I would love to see a model of this aircraft..
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The AN-225 has been done before (even though not well) and there may not be enough customers for another run to justify the cost of a new mold. Due to its size, a 1/200 scale AN-225 may not 'fit' into many collector's display space.
the Herpa model is made of plastic. and maybe that could be the reason why people buy an An-225 made of metal. the An-225 is not that much bigger than an A380 (length might be a problem) ... if there was a Spruce Goose, collector would want that one aswell - remember, at first nobody wanted an A380 in 1/200 diecast ...and now we have it.

and as you said yourself the mould is not good, don't you think the collectors who bought that ridiculously overpriced Herpa model would try to get rid of it as soon as a more accurate mould is available?
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There is such a small market for these models that will not fit on most people's shelves. 1:400 scale for these aircraft is pretty much large enough for me, not interested in anything larger, no matter how detailed.
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There is such a small market for these models that will not fit on most people's shelves. 1:400 scale for these aircraft is pretty much large enough for me, not interested in anything larger, no matter how detailed.
as it is for Vrgin Galactica... if the market is so small, why did Herpa do one....and even more important: why did they waste the money and screw the mould? Herpa "limited" the An-225 in 1/200 to 800pcs - honestly how many collectors will buy it....and spend 230EUR for an awful 1/200 representation of the worlds biggest aicraft just for the sake of having it in the collection - no matter how it looks like. 10 or 20...?!
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A 1:200 scale An-224 or 124 is a gimmick. I guess some people will pick it up going by the bigger the better argument. Sorry not for me.
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I wouldn't mind seeing the An-124 in this scale, the same is true of the USAF C-5 but the An-225 don't look to good in 1:200 if you ask me..!!

And if you happen to build plastic kits yourself, when will we finally see the Revell 1:144 An-225 being build or offered to us kit builders...
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A 1:200 scale An-224 or 124 is a gimmick. I guess some people will pick it up going by the bigger the better argument. Sorry not for me.
  • the A380 is bigger than the An-124. bigger is better argument also could work here
  • if you only collect 1/400 or 1/500 mainly fine....but how can you say that somebody ONLY buys a An-225 just because bigger is better.... can't you understand that some might think it is quite pleasing to the eye....?
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I have to say that both 1/400 and 1/500 were built by JCW factory, they are for Herpa use only, an embarrassing situation for them to build the 1/200 which is direct competition to Herpa.
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when you say Herpa did the 1/200 on their own, is there a chance for an An-225 by JCW? better moulds sell better, that's no rocket science. even a "maybe" would make my day....

imagine: a 1/200 An-225 in the 1/400s quality
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when you say Herpa did the 1/200 on their own, is there a chance for an An-225 by JCW? better moulds sell better, that's no rocket science. even a "maybe" would make my day....

imagine: a 1/200 An-225 in the 1/400s quality
got it wrong....now i understand.

but when i was JCW i wouldn't mind that my factory built something for another manufacturer ....it was Herpas mistake to do their own mould (instead of upscaling an existing one, that was spot on)! maybe the new mould could be offered under a different brand than JCW. a different solution would be to offer a new mould to Herpa - i mean it wouldn't be the first mould that was re-released due to the previous moulds flaws....(new engines on the JCW T7 come to my mind)
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basically it would be like JCW releasing an EVA 77W after IF200 is releasing their 77W interpretation wearing the same livery. which isn't bad, so the collector has got the choice. and in case of the An-225 you would to a very big facour to the collectorate - so when you somehow have the possibility to bring that mould to the market i am sure you won't regret it.
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the 1/200 looks like it is made of wood...judge yourself. plus diverse inaccuracies....the second is the 1/400 mould.
Something about the front landing gear
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Herpa used plastic for the AN-225 in 200 scale. I saw one at Threshold here at YYZ once, and when they opened it to let us see it, it looks like someone used sandpaper and scratched all the fine detail away. Such a big model, and yet the details look like a toy plane.
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the Herpa model is made of plastic. and maybe that could be the reason why people buy an An-225 made of metal. the An-225 is not that much bigger than an A380 (length might be a problem) ... if there was a Spruce Goose, collector would want that one aswell - remember, at first nobody wanted an A380 in 1/200 diecast ...and now we have it.
Not that collectors wouldn't go for a diecast version, but I don't think the PCM and Herpa An-225 versions sold very well.

Also, in 1/200 scale, the An-225 would be almost 2" longer than the A-380, compounded by the twin tails that would also take up even more space than the A-380's conventional tail. And the shipping weight would be quite a bit more too.

Maybe that won't matter enough to collectors for the model not to sell.

Now the An-124 would be a whole different story.
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Not that collectors wouldn't go for a diecast version, but I don't think the PCM and Herpa An-225 versions sold very well.
sure they did not sell - they're crap (and they're plastic - the collectorate wants diecast remember GJs A380 vs HG 380 -> GJ (metal) "wins" though the HG (plastic) mould is more accurate)!

good to see, that some do not buy a model just for the sake of having it in their collection no matter how bad the replica looks like (not to talk about the price - 230EIR, and what do you get? ....a model you have to fix yourself (undercarriage) PLUS the issues you would like to have fixed but you are not able to) !!!
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This topic came up about a year ago, but its good that it has resurfaced as I agree the AN124 diecast would sell well. I currently have the plastic version and whilst it is good, I'd rather a diecast version with more details including wheels. As for those who think they take up too much space, I say make space!
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Would like the AN 124 with open cargo doors
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Same here but I would like a an-225 with cargo doors
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Yes we need the 2 heavily Beast in the heavy metal version.

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Okay, I couldn't handle the suspense so I just ordered a Revell Germany 1/144 scale An-124 model kit. I'd be all in for a 1/200 scale diecast An-124 also.

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1/144 is good as you can use 1/160 cars, trucks and buses as GSE (multiple manufacturers) - but i could see myself get addicted to 1/144 aswell, and that scale is definately too big for me.
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Okay, I couldn't handle the suspense so I just ordered a Revell Germany 1/144 scale An-124 model kit. I'd be all in for a 1/200 scale diecast An-124 kit also.
and would you be in for the An-225 aswell?
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and would you be in for the An-225 aswell?
I would have to see. I'm really limited on space too, so I'm not sure at this point. I would have to do a 'space assessment' when one is released. I do already have the 1/400 scale version.

I really like the An-124 because I've seen so many videos of them operating in Afghanistan along with the Il-96 (my real holy grail at the moment).
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Okay, I couldn't handle the suspense so I just ordered a Revell Germany 1/144 scale An-124 model kit. I'd be all in for a 1/200 scale diecast An-124 kit also.
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I would buy an an225 in diecast by jc in a heartbeat! Without doubt! It would be so much better than the herpa one . Im a huge fan of the mriya and the an124 hehe
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I would be very pleased and just happy if JCW made An 225 Ukraine livery for us!
I just don't understand why somebody thinks that this mould wouldn't be lucrative for JC.
For instance I really know 5 of my friends who really would buy it,and I pretty sure that almost every collector who collects 1:200 will be want to get it.
About price.Herpa's An 225(plastic) is really very expensive, and to be honest I don't understand why their prices so high(in terms of quality). But seems to me the price wouldn't be so high(A-380 you can pick up for 130$ altogether with shipping),sure it's completely different aircraft with enormous sizes and nobody can predicts what JCW thinks about this project.
We can only hope and keep our fingers crossed for it.
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I would definitely buy a JCW AN-225
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See jc?there are already a few that would want one. Please consider!
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