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... and don't mention any other members in the title or thread. (Like you did last time which is what lead to the suspension,...).

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Sorry, you probably would think that, but not that cute and not that clever.......again. The first time may have been mildly amusing, but by the 3rd or 4th time it was getting a little weird. After the 9th of 10th time and this level of interest, I got to tell you buddy, I already have someone, and I'm not the least bit interested. (now THAT was funny!!) Seriously, this is the exact kind of thing that makes members reluctant to post anything, or just to leave the forum all together. I think most people call it 'bullying' but I bet you just call it normal behavior.

I was just wondering? What would motivate a member to follow another member's post, one after the other, post after post and try (unsuccessfully) to make everything a nasty comment or a joke? I'm not the only one noticing this either. No life? Low self esteem? Nothing better to say? Just plain 'meanness'? Not that I really care. Your posts never have much of anything that I care to read anyway.
Been thinking the same thing.
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Chris... I think there are some virus in your computer... The pictures you were referring to all came from "TONKA"'s account, neither of them came from Marcus'. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, Marcus has stopped using Photobucket to post pictures long time ago. I don't know why did you have these thoughts and what happened to you, but...
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Actually not. This is the chart I was talking about. Conveniently gone from your link to your Photobucket. (if anyone is interested, click above for the larger version)
Welcome back in any case. I guess it took you a couple of days to figure how best to respond? Y'all know this doesn't really mean anything, don't ya?




You pulled the exact same thing just before when Retro guy left. Why should I (we) have expected anything different this time. I don't really care about dimensions any more. Never really did in the first place. For me it was mainly about shape, not size, but you did successfully divert the discussion to the whole size thing. Anyway, all this nonsense has gone way beyond that and I think this was maybe the last spark of any interest at all. At least for me. Ultimately, it makes little difference to my life, and probably for others here too.

Time we all just got to enjoying our models again. And trying to be a little nicer to each other too.
You better find out why ONLY you found my images gone, which is not the case. Again, I will not remove any image from Photobucket if I posted here. Someone already told you he can read all
"I can still see all of the charts from above, maybe there is a problem with your internet connection"

Don't guess, pull my history, if I replied to other threads but not this one, may be I am thinking, instead, I am away from this forum during last 38 hrs, I am not the one sticking in front of the screen 24/7
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There is no doubt that the forum is all the poorer for his absence.
Amen to that! This said, I agree that 1) there seem to members on the forum with strong affiliations to manufacturers, and they should make this transparent, and 2) criticism seems to have become less constructive over time.
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Not sure publicly declaring an affiliation would make much difference. Having been on a number of forums, you will have find some who are staunch supporters of their favourite brand. In their mind, the brand can do no wrong and they will vehemently defend it against any criticism. Even to the extent of bashing other brands.

In general, there isn't anything wrong in mentioning the perceived errors with a diecast. It does provide more information for a collector to consider investigating further if they're looking to buy the model. They can then make up their own mind to go ahead or to pass.
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Full Disclosure.
I don't mind stating my affiliation at all, although I don't think I'm the one everyone is talking about. My affiliations are easy...there are none.

But I have done some direct design work with JCW on the 717,747, and 777-300ER designs and a few comments on their A350. I've also sent comments and exchanged some ideas and designs with Phoenix and Inflight on their 777-300ER designs, and are aware of a few future plans as well. The 777-300ER is my airplane (DUH, real surprise, right?) and of the 3 designs on the market right now, Inflight, JCW and Phoenix, NONE is perfect. I'm still waiting for a better 777-300ER to hit the market.

Here is how I would rank them.
1. JCW is probably the best overall, but their nose and engine shape is off. Since those 2 items are off, and these items are my 'hot buttons', I'm currently buying mostly (but not all) Inflight models. If JCW would tilt the fan cowl up a little even without revising the shape of the top of the cowl (which is needed also), and move the center point of the radome down so it was lined up with the correctly placed bottom of the pax doors and rounded it a little, I probably wouldn't buy anything else. More details on the tail would be nice too.

2. the second best in my opinion is Inflight, although I like their nose and engine shape the best. There isn't enough difference in engine size to make a difference to me. If Inflight needs to revise their landing gear and engine pylons. The engine size doesn't bother me because it looks about right compared to pics of the 1:1, but may be just slightly small. Not a big deal for me,but maybe for others. The radome also needs to be a little more rounded and the bottom of the nose from the radome to the landing gear doors could use a little more metal on the mold, but still not bad. The shape of the nose looks better to me although it is too skinny, but still the main reason I buy Inflight. The tail detail is awesome and everyone else should do something similar.

3. Phoenix/Eagle is my third choice. Of the 3, I like the shape of the radome on the Phoenix model best. Cockpit window size and placement isn't bad either. I think Phoenix, to be competitive, needs to revise their landing gear and engine size and shape, get rid of the heavy inscribing on the tail and add and darken their printing on the wing and engine details. Phoenix has expressed an interest in suggestions for upgrading their 777 mold, so we will see what happens.

My goal and agenda is very simple. I want a better 777-300ER model in 1/200 no matter who makes it, and I'm happy to work with any manufacturer that is interested in doing that..

As far as the whole 'Tonka vs. Marcus' thing goes, the really bad thing about any kind of social media is anyone can be anyone or a few somebodies if they choose , and the lack of accountability can allow some pretty viscous and disgusting things to happen. And there still are the Hong Kong rumors which have been around for years. It doesn't really matter if 'Marcus' post pictures of models, and 'Tonka' says all of the disparaging and terrible things about other brands that Marcus can't, whether they are the same person or not. It doesn't really matter because the effect is the same. JCW=Tonka=Marcus=a few others on this forum no matter how many people are actually divided into. Marcus' information at the bottom of his email identifies him as the Engineering Design Manager for JCW, and despite hinting that he is an aircraft mechanic, most if not all of Tonka's pictures appear to come from inside the JCW factory. End of story.

Oh, and I will continue to state my opinion where and when I want in manufacturer's and dealer's threads, but I will try limit my comments to these threads and to be not as repetitive and be a little nicer about it too.

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In general, there isn't anything wrong in mentioning the perceived errors with a diecast. It does provide more information for a collector to consider investigating further if they're looking to buy the model. They can then make up their own mind to go ahead or to pass.
I can't think of any reason anyone could reasonably find fault with this statement in broad terms.
I do think however that there is a proper time and place for such criticisms to be voiced.

On the one hand a thread highligting new releases offered by manufacturers are fair game.
On the other hand, threads where collectors posts photos of their new models which they are proud to share with the collectorate are not such places. (In my opinion). Others draw the line elsewhere.

I know there will be a vocal minory who says that you can bash models (and by extension those idiots who collect said models) anywhere as it is a free forum and everyone can say what they want.
Ok, then good luck with a forum full of antagonistic people as the rest of us will leave (or rather stop contributing usefully) and leave those to their rants and raves.
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Chris... I think there are some virus in your computer... The pictures you were referring to all came from "TONKA"'s account, neither of them came from Marcus'. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, Marcus has stopped using Photobucket to post pictures long time ago. I don't know why did you have these thoughts and what happened to you, but...
If you were really concerned with any of this, you could have emialed me privately like we have done many times in the past, instead of making a point of this on the forum. I can assure you, I've never been better, but this post does make me wonder about your motivations.

As far as the computer goes, no viruses, and all the other pictures come up just fine. Marcus does still have a photobucket, and I'm pretty sure one of the graphics that 'Tonka' used came in this post came from there. I have personal emails and cad drawings from both of them, so I know the difference in email addresses.

And there are still all of the 'common knowledge' rumors in Hong Kong. Read my above post. In the long run, it really doesn't matter. Tonka=JCW is the bottom line. The 777-300ER was his design. I know this because I have CAD drawings for the engine and pylons including the current version that he sent me when we were working on that project, but I won't post here because of possible legal complications and because I said I wouldn't when I got them. If Tonka/Marcus want to dispute this, I'll check with my attorney and see if there would be a problem posting them, although I probably wouldn't anyway.

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I can't think of any reason anyone could reasonably find fault with this statement in broad terms.
I do think however that there is a proper time and place for such criticisms to be voiced.

On the one hand a thread highligting new releases offered by manufacturers are fair game.
On the other hand, threads where collectors posts photos of their new models which they are proud to share with the collectorate are not such places. (In my opinion). Others draw the line elsewhere.

I know there will be a vocal minory who says that you can bash models (and by extension those idiots who collect said models) anywhere as it is a free forum and everyone can say what they want.
Ok, then good luck with a forum full of antagonistic people as the rest of us will leave (or rather stop contributing usefully) and leave those to their rants and raves.
Well said. That is exactly how I feel too, not that I always act that way.

Manufacturers threads should be where all the criticism happens. Individuals posting pics of their models should be 'safe spaces'. This should be THE NEW GOLD STANDARD for conduct for this forum. It would make it a much nicer place to visit, and I will make all efforts to live by this.

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It has been pointed out that this thread Title mentions other members by name and puts forth questions about their membership. As such I have re-named the Thread to remove member/s names.

Also been questioned about why is it okay to question other member/s and accuse them of certain actions? As DA.C is a members forum, it should be obvious that questions may be asked for discussion from other member/s and that it will be asked within the thread postings. Asking for comment or asking questions is fine. Making accusations without any proof or accusing another member because you have issues with what they post is not acceptable.

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Further to this, statements have been made as to why I allowed this thread opener to mention other member/s names in the Thread Title?

As for the title, I have changed it and removed any reference to any other member/s.

And thankyou for pointing out the obvious here. It's appreciated. Shows that I am human occasionally.

It's a VERY good point... I'll just go and suspend myself for 3 days... Wait a minute... see Finally above.

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Manufacturers threads should be where all the criticism happens. Individuals posting pics of their models should be 'safe spaces'. This should be THE NEW GOLD STANDARD for conduct this forum.
G'day,

I've passed this on to VS-Admin to incorporate into the Membership Rules. Needs a re-write, but it is a brilliant statement and will be enforced once it is approved.

Should make DA.C and Wings900 a more enjoyable place to share our hobby.

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I've passed this on to VS-Admin to incorporate into the Membership Rules. Needs a re-write, but it is a brilliant statement and will be enforced once it is approved.

Should make DA.C and Wings900 a more enjoyable place to share our hobby.

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Thanks Lou!! Sounds like a great idea to me. I think many of here on DaC really appreciate your efforts to make this a better and more enjoyable place for all of us!
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Full Disclosure.
I don't mind stating my affiliation at all, although I don't think I'm the one everyone is talking about. My affiliations are easy...there are none.

But I have done some direct design work with JCW on the 717,747, and 777-300ER designs and a few comments on their A350. I've also sent comments and exchanged some ideas and designs with Phoenix and Inflight on their 777-300ER designs, and are aware of a few future plans as well. The 777-300ER is my airplane (DUH, real surprise, right?) and of the 3 designs on the market right now, Inflight, JCW and Phoenix, NONE is perfect. I'm still waiting for a better 777-300ER to hit the market.

Here is how I would rank them.
1. JCW is probably the best overall, but their nose and engine shape is off. Since those 2 items are off, and these items are my 'hot buttons', I'm currently buying mostly (but not all) Inflight models. If JCW would tilt the fan cowl up a little even without revising the shape of the top of the cowl (which is needed also), and move the center point of the radome down so it was lined up with the correctly placed bottom of the pax doors and rounded it a little, I probably wouldn't buy anything else. More details on the tail would be nice too.

2. the second best in my opinion is Inflight, although I like their nose and engine shape the best. There isn't enough difference in engine size to make a difference to me. If Inflight needs to revise their landing gear and engine pylons. The engine size doesn't bother me because it looks about right compared to pics of the 1:1, but may be just slightly small. Not a big deal for me,but maybe for others. The radome also needs to be a little more rounded and the bottom of the nose from the radome to the landing gear doors could use a little more metal on the mold, but still not bad. The shape of the nose looks better to me although it is too skinny, but still the main reason I buy Inflight. The tail detail is awesome and everyone else should do something similar.

3. Phoenix/Eagle is my third choice. Of the 3, I like the shape of the radome on the Phoenix model best. Cockpit window size and placement isn't bad either. I think Phoenix, to be competitive, needs to revise their landing gear and engine size and shape, get rid of the heavy inscribing on the tail and add and darken their printing on the wing and engine details. Phoenix has expressed an interest in suggestions for upgrading their 777 mold, so we will see what happens.

My goal and agenda is very simple. I want a better 777-300ER model in 1/200 no matter who makes it, and I'm happy to work with any manufacturer that is interested in doing that..

As far as the whole 'Tonka vs. Marcus' thing goes, the really bad thing about any kind of social media is anyone can be anyone or a few somebodies if they choose , and the lack of accountability can allow some pretty viscous and disgusting things to happen. And there still are the Hong Kong rumors which have been around for years. It doesn't really matter if 'Marcus' post pictures of models, and 'Tonka' says all of the disparaging and terrible things about other brands that Marcus can't, whether they are the same person or not. It doesn't really matter because the effect is the same. JCW=Tonka=Marcus=a few others on this forum no matter how many people are actually divided into. Marcus' information at the bottom of his email identifies him as the Engineering Design Manager for JCW, and despite hinting that he is an aircraft mechanic, most if not all of Tonka's pictures appear to come from inside the JCW factory. End of story.

Oh, and I will continue to state my opinion where and when I want in manufacturer's and dealer's threads, but I will try limit my comments to these threads and to be not as repetitive and be a little nicer about it too.
I know that they are plastic kits,but how would you rate the Zvezda 1/44 and
Hasegawa 1/200 Boeing 777-300ER model kits accuracy wise ?
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I know that they are plastic kits,but how would you rate the Zvezda 1/44 and
Hasegawa 1/200 Boeing 777-300ER model kits accuracy wise ?
The Zvezda kit is excellent, but then again it is 1/144 scale and has the size to really do details right. The 1/200 Hasagawa kit is very good too, but the nose looks slightly too long and pointed to me, but still very good. A very light sanding would correct things. I have 1 Zvezda kit and 3 Hasagawa kits (they make both a -300 and a -300ER kit with several liveries still available).

Both plastic kits are very nice. Generally, you can get more detail in plastic and both models show it. If you don't mind the time to build the model, they produce very nice looking aircraft although with the Zvezda kit, you will want to get some after market decals. The decals that come with the kit lack many details and are not very good. Luckily there are quite a few 1/144 after market decals available for around $20, including Air New Zealand, ANA, Emirates, KLM and Singapore Airlines. Just go to eBay and enter '1/144 777-300er decals' in the search field. There are still both Zvezda and Hasagawa kits still available for reasonable prices there too .

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Many thanks - I have both kits but will need to purchase decals for them.

As far as modern airliners go I think the Boeing 777-300ER is definitely the best looking !
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You're welcome!! Always glad to help.

And I have to agree. I think the 777-300ER IS the best looking aircraft to grace the skies today!!
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Some of you have just got too much time on your hands...
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Often a multiple poster 'outs' themselves inadvertently by their syntax or writing style. use of 'rolleyes' is an example as is misuse of there for their.

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I don't know.. Let's spend all of our spare time thinking about this and trying to unravel this mystery. Then again let's not because 1. It's boring 2. This is a model aircraft forum about MODELS. 3. This is only of interest to you and of little interest to anyone else!
With 1900+ views and some new forum rules, it looks like quite a few people were interested after all.
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On the other hand, threads where collectors posts photos of their new models which they are proud to share with the collectorate are not such places.
This upsets me the most. I think its great when collectors post pic of their new models, but when members pick it apart just plain sucks.

But, its been this way for quite some time now. I used to post pics, but felt it wasnt worth it after people point out mistakes (from their perspective).
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On the other hand, threads where collectors posts photos of their new models which they are proud to share with the collectorate are not such places.
I agree too, if a collector is posting pics just to show off his latest addition, it would be inappropriate to post comments ripping the model apart. The pictures weren't posted for the purpose of having the model criticised.
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I agree too, if a collector is posting pics just to show off his latest addition, it would be inappropriate to post comments ripping the model apart. The pictures weren't posted for the purpose of having the model criticised.
I agree also, although I know I have been guilty of this in the past.

This should include phrases like "Nice, but I'll buy/wait for the JCW version".

It isn't really a compliment on the model at all. What that is really saying or implying is that in their opinion you may have made the wrong choice or that the model being shown is 'second rate'.

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As far as the whole 'Tonka vs. Marcus' thing goes, the really bad thing about any kind of social media is anyone can be anyone or a few somebodies if they choose , and the lack of accountability can allow some pretty viscous and disgusting things to happen. And there still are the Hong Kong rumors which have been around for years. It doesn't really matter if 'Marcus' post pictures of models, and 'Tonka' says all of the disparaging and terrible things about other brands that Marcus can't, whether they are the same person or not. It doesn't really matter because the effect is the same. JCW=Tonka=Marcus=a few others on this forum no matter how many people are actually divided into. Marcus' information at the bottom of his email identifies him as the Engineering Design Manager for JCW, and despite hinting that he is an aircraft mechanic, most if not all of Tonka's pictures appear to come from inside the JCW factory. End of story.

Oh, and I will continue to state my opinion where and when I want in manufacturer's and dealer's threads, but I will try limit my comments to these threads and to be not as repetitive and be a little nicer about it too.
I am questioning if this is 'Hong Kong rumors' or your rumors, from all of your replies, people can understand you are the one 'almost done' but never, 'doesn't matter' but really matter, 'don't really care' but most care.
1. JCW=Tonka=Marcus=a few others in this thread.
2. It was there along with many of the other graphics and pictures that Tonka has posted. Within 5 minutes of accessing the Photobucket account, ALL of the recent pics that Tonka has posted disappeared for me from all of his posts on this forum since last December
3. "Marcus does still have a photobucket, and I'm pretty sure one of the graphics that 'Tonka' used came in this post came from there".
All brought up by you but are you sure?
As mentioned by Lou 'Making accusations without any proof or accusing another member because you have issues with what they post' Some of these may violate the rules already, so please prove yourself!
Nobody will convince you, I think the only one you can trust here is the moderator, may be he can give you the answers of 2 and 3 above.

I do think you still trying to tell people that there is conspiracy by me or Marcus=Tonka, okay, if you think you are being very clever or so confidence of what you said, I drop my words to you.
To solve the big mystery you questioned about, I would like Lou to review the IPs of what Marcus posted vs Tonka posted. He may not able to reveal the IP details but only 'yes' or 'no' is enough.
Marcus vs Tonka
Question: Any post came from the same IP?
If ANY of his answer is YES, I will close my DAC account permanently, but if ALL answers are NO, can you do the same? Pretty good chance if you know the different between 'ANY' and 'ALL".
I doubt you will accept this or may be just say that you are not interested. Well, you always have an excuse.
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No accusations, I'm just asking the question. But it came up for very specific reasons, and I wanted to give you and everyone else a chance to know and respond. That is why I wrote this post.

You should know very well if you are up on the 'buzz' that it has been a common rumor in Hong Kong for some time now (sources in Hong Kong say 'common knowledge) about the association between you and Marcus,and definitely did not start with me. I've heard it from a few sources too.

Point 3.Yep, I'm pretty sure. I tried to copy the picture in your second post in this thread. It couldn't be copied directly, so I got the source information from the picture/graphic and typed THAT into my address bar to see what else was there. I was specifically looking for the full graph that you posted the cut off version of, that you said wasn't available or relevant (it was ) and I found it. But it was Marcus' Photobucket, not yours. I've emailed Marcus directly before , and when I came across the address of the Photobucket, I recognzed it. And in the Photobucket, there were copies of most of the charts and graphics that you have used for many of your posts also. Looked to me like for some time you were either getting things approved in advance, sharing what you were posting, or in fact the same person. There may be other explanations, but no reasonable ones that I can thing of. Wasn't positive though so I formed the title of my post in the form of a question, not an accusation. Strike 2

I think you know that Lou can't release IP addresses. Anyway, there are several IP addresses associated with JCW, and I have your email and photobucket addresses, plus the source information for the Cad files and Viewed program that you provided me when we were doing design work on the 777. engines.. Marcus uses one to post pictures of new releases, another one for business related person emails, and there are others at JCW too, so the IP address, even if it could be released wouldn't help. And I think you know that so the IP address offer is without any real risk to you. Oh, and a personal preference can't be wrong. Nice try though.

Whether you and Marcus are in fact the same person is really kind of irrelevant at this point. I think most people can clearly see that here is at least some strong degree of relationship and cooperation between you and Marcus and maybe several other people at JCW here on the forum whether they are in fact one person or several. That is obvious to me and I imagine others too. Even if Lou could release IP addresses, there is not a snowballs chance in hell I quit DaC for something as stupid or irrelevant as an argument or discussion with you. Strike 3

Oh, and no more extended discussions with you either. They are pretty pointless and nobody else here really cares. Ultimately people are going to believe what they want, since there really is no 'proof' one way or another. That is the bad side, of social media.

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Blablabla again but I don't think any people can get you...
You are not reading properly, no need to release any IP address, just let you know yes or no is enough.
I suggest Lou because you even questioned about others motivations when they tried to tell you the truth.
Simple and easy, if Tonka=Marcus, I am sure at least one single thread will came from same IP address after years. Okay, may be you will say that all were planned since 06-06-2013 when Marcus joined or even 02-02-2012 of me
You are "pretty sure" but why you can't even prove yourself? This is a good chance to shut me up when you are so confident about the conspiracy. Why back off like what I said? You always gave excuses to what you said and continue to provide false information on this forum. You are almost done in diverting the focus of your mistakes with this thread, but just almost and now you made yourself embarrassed
A note to all, about 90% of your threads were 'edited', I can know from that you are the one keep changing your mind, less or without thinking before hit the submit button. I may do so only if I try to end up my story later.
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I don't get time very much to comment these days but It is alleged that Tonka is paid by JC and everyone knows it!! It is alleged that Tonka does it to push the product on DAC due to alleged poor sales of the JC range worldwide.

I really miss the ARD reports and it is alleged that Tonka is totally responsible for damaging information coming to us all. If I had control of this forum he would be kicked off immediately because the ARD information is much more valuable than the news from the JC factory.

RetroGuy where are you? Come back and maybe the rest of us can blank Tonka!!

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I don't get time very much to comment these days but It is alleged that Tonka is paid by JC and everyone knows it!! It is alleged that Tonka does it to push the product on DAC due to alleged poor sales of the JC range worldwide.

Rather than disparaging competitor's products, you would think Tonka/Marcus would spend their efforts correcting some of the quality problems JCW does have, like gross (and I mean LARGE) 'sanding variations' between models on the same mold, sloping engines, low ground clearance due to incorrectly molded pylons (not landing gear heights), rough final finishes and mis-applied paint masks. When JCW revised their 777-300ER mold, I think someone's misguided loyalty went into over drive in an attempt to boost sales. Unfortunately Retroguy was the target and his departure was the result. Seems to me that someone is trying to do the same to me now.

I really miss the ARD reports and It is alleged that Tonka is totally responsible for damaging information coming to us all. If I had control of this forum he would be kicked off immediately because the ARD information is much more valuable than the news from the JC factory.

I think we ALL miss the ARD reports and wish Retroguy would return. The forum suffered a great loss when he left.

RetroGuy where are you? Come back and maybe the rest of us can blank Tonka!!
Hopefully limiting comments to dealer manufacturer threads will provide an environment where people feel safe to again post pics of their models. I wish Retroguy would return also, but I'm afraid the treatment he received here from a certain someone may have made that impossible.

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Blablabla again but I don't think any people can get you...
You are not reading properly, no need to release any IP address, just let you know yes or no is enough.
I suggest Lou because you even questioned about others motivations when they tried to tell you the truth.
Simple and easy, if Tonka=Marcus, I am sure at least one single thread will came from same IP address after years. Okay, may be you will say that all were planned since 06-06-2013 when Marcus joined or even 02-02-2012 of me
You are "pretty sure" but why you can't even prove yourself? This is a good chance to shut me up when you are so confident about the conspiracy. Why back off like what I said? You always gave excuses to what you said and continue to provide false information on this forum. You are almost done in diverting the focus of your mistakes with this thread, but just almost and now you made yourself embarrassed
A note to all, about 90% of your threads were 'edited', I can know from that you are the one keep changing your mind, less or without thinking before hit the submit button. I may do so only if I try to end up my story later.
As much as you are personally irritating to me , may goal is not to 'shut you up'. Although that would certainly make my life easier, I think others would miss the information that you provide(but not the constant negative criticism of other brands). This forum shouldn't be about getting rid of each other, it should be about sharing pictures and information. You and I just got way carried away with this whole 777 'thing'.

My major complaint is that you seem to pretend to be a 'neutral' observer here on Dac, and that is anything but honest. In my opinion, you should be honest about affiliation with JCW. I think it would actually make your posts with news from JCW more credible. But it would also limit the ability to anonymously harangue other brands too. Why the big mystery and false persona? And ultimately I am correct, there is a business connection between the two people mentioned in this thread whether they are in fact two people or not. It is pretty obvious when most of the pics used in your threads come from the JCW factory, and you use prototypes (again pics from the JCW factory) to compare to other brand's production models. Nobody needs any 'proof' of that.

Just to be clear, my problems with JCW's 777-300ER design is the shape of the nose and the slant and shape of the engines, not the dimensions. You can have all the correct dimensions and still not have a model that looks like the real thing.. But then everyone her knows that, I've said that again and again and again (sorry guys). I have the original CaD files of the engine design and pics of the prototype. What happened? The design didn't have the engine sloping down in the front. Rather than arguing, it would be simpler to just fix the engine pylons and the few other problems that keep the design from being a great model? With your permission, I'll post the files here on the forum if you are really worried about honesty.

As far as the 'editing' is concerned, I'm a TERRIBLE typist. Crownvic used to tease me about it until I started re-reading and editing spelling errors in my posts. The '90% editing' is most spelling errors and has nothing to do with changing my mind. Occasionally I do think of a way to better express the ideas that I am trying to convey in a post, and edit for that reason. See, I've already edited this post several times for spelling. I'm 'glad' you find my personal habits so fascinating.

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Not sure why anyone would buy the JC 777-300 now that Inflight have done it properly!! With Gemini doing their 777-300 on the JC mould all these need redoing by Inflight so come on IF200 lets get some proper 777-300s on the market so that I can trash my JC efforts!
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G'day,

First off... Tonka, the answer you ask is NO

Second off... JC Wings doesn't have to boost sales, their product is supurb in almost all cases and Gemini along with some other companies now do use JC Wings moulds.

Third off... All manufacturers/makers are on the forum. Don't kid yourself into thinking it's only JC employees or family on here. ALL of them... are members of diecast model aircraft forums. It's simply the best way to find out what the collecting population wants/needs and to defend their own products. And... DA.C (and Wings900) fully support their involvement on these forums.

Four... Why would anyone want to ban an employee from any manufacturer of model planes from DA.C..? They bring knowledge, insight, an understanding of the manufacturing process and explanations for why models are the way they are. Whether they are directly employed, management or relatives, should have no bearing. As long as they pass the membership/sign up rules, everyone is welcome.

The only stipulation is that this site is not run by, owned by, or financed by a manufacturer, online store or other retail operation. This site is for collectors and is run with collectors in mind - we do not have a hidden agenda and we are not looking to sell you anything. Our goal is to bring you an independent web site run by collectors. Hence why GARAUROD (Rod) was removed because he is directly involved with a manufacturer (Gemini Jets) and as such he had a conflict of interest.

Indeed, all members are welcome on here. For other members to state otherwise, this is just bad form and those members need to pull their collective heads in and re-evaluate what membership to DA.C stands for. HINT: It's to foster a healthy and enjoyable forum, so we can continue to bring you and the collector community top quality, accurate topics, in-depth discussions, and breaking news.

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G'day,

First off... Tonka, the answer you ask is NO

Second off... JC Wings doesn't have to boost sales, their product is supurb in almost all cases and Gemini along with some other companies now do use JC Wings moulds.

Third off... All manufacturers/makers are on the forum. Don't kid yourself into thinking it's only JC employees or family on here. ALL of them... are members of diecast model aircraft forums. It's simply the best way to find out what the collecting population wants/needs and to defend their own products. And... DA.C (and Wings900) fully support their involvement on these forums.

Four... Why would anyone want to ban an employee from any manufacturer of model planes from DA.C..? They bring knowledge, insight, an understanding of the manufacturing process and explanations for why models are the way they are. Whether they are directly employed, management or relatives, should have no bearing. As long as they pass the membership/sign up rules, everyone is welcome.

The only stipulation is that this site is not run by, owned by, or financed by a manufacturer, online store or other retail operation. This site is for collectors and is run with collectors in mind - we do not have a hidden agenda and we are not looking to sell you anything. Our goal is to bring you an independent web site run by collectors. Hence why GARAUROD (Rod) was removed because he is directly involved with a manufacturer (Gemini Jets) and as such he had a conflict of interest.

Indeed, all members are welcome on here. For other members to state otherwise, this is just bad form and those members need to pull their collective heads in and re-evaluate what membership to DA.C stands for. HINT: It's to foster a healthy and enjoyable forum, so we can continue to bring you and the collector community top quality, accurate topics, in-depth discussions, and breaking news.

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I hope all are cleared from your answers.
May be you are the only one can stop him from keep doing things like this, it turn out that entire DAC is against him whenever if anyone say JCW 777 is better. I do feel myself being vilified when he made up the whole story in the thread. He trust no one here now, please give him(or other members)one more answer if you can:
"I'm pretty sure one of the graphics that 'Tonka' used came in this post came from there".
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I hope all are cleared from your answers.
May be you are the only one can stop him from keep doing things like this, it turn out that entire DAC is against him whenever if anyone say JCW 777 is better. I do feel myself being vilified when he made up the whole story in the thread. He trust no one here now, please give him(or other members)one more answer if you can:
"I'm pretty sure one of the graphics that 'Tonka' used came in this post came from there".
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I'll let Lou answer you directly, but he did state above that this forum is primarily for COLLECTORS, of which I'm one of them. The purpose of this forum is specifically the discussion and appreciation of toy model airplanes. And I don't think his response was directed at me, rather it was directed at the suggestion ANYONE should be thrown off the forum. I won't leave the forum voluntarily if that is what you are also suggesting, and won't be thrown off either unless I break the rules.

I think anyone here DOES REALIZE that there is an (alleged) association between you and JCW. Are you seriously telling the other members that there is not an (alleged) association? One can't vilify someone or something if what is being said is true. I think it is important for members to realize this when criticism is leveled at other brands. What really is offensive to me is when someone pretends to be something they are not in an attempt to deceive others. Maybe also offensive to others too.

I would remind everyone of a little history. This whole IF vs. JCW 777-300ER thing started when a certain member attacked Retroguy's first pictures of Inflight's new 777-300ER in advance of the release of JCW's revised design. I wasn't even involved in the discussion at the time. Despite Rui's repeated requests not to use his pictures or bash his new Inflight model, and no support from the moderators at the time, this member's repeated his attacks until RUI stopped posting on this forum. Unfortunately that was the end of the ARD reports too. Although not the only cause, it was one of the (alleged) primary causes of him leaving. I definitely won't follow Rui's lead by doing the same thing.

And one final thing. You were the other half of every stupid IF vs. JCW discussion so please don't pretend that it was just me. You EQUALLY annoyed everyone. I don't think the members minded the content of the discussion (maybe I'm wrong here) so much as the length of time that it went and that it permeated virtually every 777-300ER thread on this forum for months on end. Although I think other members like the 'inside information' from you, we were both equally irritating primarily because we both ignored other member's feelings when they posted pics of their new models in a misguided attempt to win a pointless agreement.

The new rules that limit critical comments of a model to manufacturer and dealer threads will go a long way to solving this problem. Hopefully members can once again post pictures of their models without having them ripped to shreds by anyone.. But remember one thing, unless I'm thrown off of this forum (unlikely at best) I will continue state my opinion on dealer and manufacturer threads, and do my best to keep the criticism balanced. I just don't understand the attempt at deception by anyone (allegedly) associated with a factory or brand, particularly when I don't think that association makes much difference except when criticizing other brands and may actually increase their credibility here on the forum.

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To answer his questions
As mentioned by himself, both he and me worked with JCW on some projects, he has some internal email address as well as mine for sure, I am still doing so but he is not because most of the comments or inputs from him cannot be accepted by their engineering board, especially about the B777, I think that's why 'wars' started. I NEVER deny my relationship with JCW, from my images of prototype/3D drawings/ ppd models or some under construction items, people can see that I can get some inside news directly from them, which need the approval from manufacturer for sure. There is no conspiracy like what he thought and ALL information I posted on DAC do have positive evidences or supported by technical documents. I would like everyone to monitor this or even search my history and point out any error/mistake I made as well as any false information provided.
I am glad that I received PM from the Moderator today, he told me that appropriate actions will be taken to avoid what happened recently and hope this case can come to an end soon.
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Finally, some honesty. Despite the rumors in Hong Kong, I can accept what Tonka is saying because, in his case, that matches my own experience with him and JCW. To echo what Lou has stated, any manufacturer would be crazy not to have a presence here on the forum. But I don't think you ever directly stated you relationship with JCW either, until now.

The 777-300ER 'war' started between Tonka and Retroguy, not me. That went on for a few months and ended when Retroguy stopped posting on the forum. I wasn't involved in the discussion much at the time. I didn't really get involved until you ripped the pictures that Im posted of my new KLM 777-300ER apart. People can check that if they want to also. Just search the 1/200 section for KLM.

I did some design work with JCW on the 747, mainly the nose and 777 engines on a volunteer (no pay) basis as well as input on several other designs (A350, 717) that are now out. When the Inflight 777-300ER mold came out, and Inflight was willing to correct some of the mold's initial deficiencies, I saw it as direct competition to the JCW mold and said some positive things about the IF mold on the forum. Tonka did warn me to "be careful what I was saying because people were watching", and sure enough, THAT was when the relationship with JCW ended. It was all volunteer work anyway, and I didn't like being told what I could and could not post.

The discussion and 'technical documents' is not as clear cut as you would have people believe. Even in your own Photobucket library and the documents we shared, there is a lot of conflicting information on size, shape, ect. Some documents were posted with parts that did not support your argument cut off, and other relavant documents ignored completely. I have sent some requested 'suggestions' to other manufacturers and it will be interesting to see what new or revised 777-300ER molds come out in the future. In the end, despite being uncomfortable for a time, I think we all ended up with better models. The Skyteam models with the new engine mold and landing gear is a good example.

Finally, I have exchanges correspondences with Lou, and I do agree, I probably should have used the word 'alleged' in some of my posts in this thread. Those changes have already been made, as you can see above. But the really important 'appropriate action' and really BIG result of all of this is the new rule to limit critiques of models to manufacturer and dealer threads (not individual's picture posts of their models) to make this once again a safe place for members to share their models. THAT sounds like a wonderful idea.

And I agree, hopefully we can ALL put this behind us now.

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With 1900+ views and some new forum rules, it looks like quite a few people were interested after all.
Congratulations! Unfortunately, I've run out of prizes..
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Congratulations! Unfortunately, I've run out of prizes..
Just ready to pop over 3,000 views. As much as you guys pretend to hate this thread, just keep the replies up and and keep it on TOP of the post list forever!!

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Spent a wonderful day working the garden with my wife, managed to fix daughter's bicycles brakes and going to have a drink on the deck and watch the sun go down before lighting Victoria Day fire works. Can't help feeling I had a better day than those wasting their life here writing up endless bull**** essays.
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Spent a wonderful day working the garden with my wife, managed to fix daughter's bicycles brakes and going to have a drink on the deck and watch the sun go down before lighting Victoria Day fire works. Can't help feeling I had a better day than those wasting their life here writing up endless bull**** essays.
Not to state the obvious, but you did take some time to visit the site and did take the time to join the group and write up another "bull**** reply" to this post.


Just saying.

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I need a 1:200 american airlines DC-10 ;-;
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I may be able to help out with the AA DC-10 if you are serious. PM sent.
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No time to waste who is who!!!!!!!!!! I just collect diecast airplanes.

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