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Old 05-12-2016, 08:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unfortunately there is not another single piece of documentation that supports your claim or your 'document', including GE's own website.

One of the main problems is General Electric doesn't make the fan cowl, Boeing does. The engines are shipped from General Electric via a 747F in a transport cradle and Boeing fabricates the cowling in their factory. And 166.46" is around 13.8', not 14.1'. And you yourself have pointed out there is just a 1" difference in fan diameters and fan cowl diameters between the -90 and the -115B1 engines. the number I've always heard is 13'7", but even GE's own website doesn't have anything to support that number.

Not interested in a separate thread. I just think your information is wrong or 'doctored'. I would just hope JCW doesn't make the same mistakes again on the GE-90 V3 mold.
Member Charlie Alpha keep provide the wrong information about the GE-90-115 size and hijacking all threads regarding 777, I already gave all the proofs to show the mistakes he made, CA, please reply here because you are annoying all other members now.
Please read the data below, only AN-124/225/Belfast/C-5 and Supper Guppy can put the -115 inside as one single piece(RFI configuration)but NOT the B747 which has door dia. 123 X 134 inches only, GE-90-115B has dia of 168"





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Yes Charlie Alpha is so annoying regarding the B77W threads. He just likes Inflights that's all and nobody will convince him. I wish he would stop it and just buy all the inferior and expensive Inflights and J-focks and leave the JC Wings for others to buy.

JC Wings B77W mould is miles ahead of every other mould out there, that is a fact !

TONKA, thanks for efforts in 1/200 scale forum, much appreciated.

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Yes Charlie Alpha is so annoying regarding the B77W threads. He just likes Inflights that's all and nobody will convince him. I wish he would stop it and just buy all the inferior and expensive Inflights and J-focks and leave the JC Wings for others to buy.
I actually have more Gemini and JCW models in my collection, and if you and if you can actually read and understand English before making such stupid statements, you would know better if you even bothered to read any of my previous posts in the A340/777 thread. They were all about improving the JCW model and never even mentioned Inflight. I can only assume you were in such a hurry to disparage another member, that you didn't even bother to check the facts. The discussion here should be centered on models, not other members. But if you don't have anything intelligent to add about models, I suppose this is the natural result.This post has been reported to the moderators as being in violation of forum rules.

JC Wings B77W mould is miles ahead of every other mould out there, that is a fact !
Now this would be an OPINION, not a fact. JCW is good, let's see if the V3 engines make it better. Hopefully it includes a reworked nose too, which is currently not very good. JCW's current QC is also not very good, with the broken stabilizer issue on the A340-600 and the mis-applied paint on the recent ANZ All Blacks and 777-300 'House Colors. Not exactly top of the line. But still, JCW does have a history of listening to customers and upgrading their models, which is good because I think you can realistically expect upgrades for the other 2 manufacturers. The current quality issued don't support the claim of being 'miles ahead'.

TONKA, thanks for efforts in 1/200 scale forum, much appreciated.
Some of the information provided by JCW is good, but some of it is manipulated. You frequently see unreleased prototype and prototype pics pics used in comparison threads along with actual production models withoput identifying which is which. Occasionally, the posts can be deceptive too, and sometimes models are promised that never materialize. I realize this one member doesn't necessarily speak for JCW, and has never identified his connection with JCW.

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So here is my reply to your rather pointless and nasty little post. I may post more about Tonka's 'numbers' here or in the other thread. I doubt if the real concern is other members 'annoyance'. I think the real issue is protecting his own design and work at all costs. I definitely think it is annoying HIM though.
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Someone is ruining these forums with these endless false discussions about stupid Inflight ****.

I consider that JC is better, so deal with it.

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Great info Tonka, however the resident forum troll will never face up to it. I pity all the 77W owners who post their newest arrivals only to be trolled by him, good grief.
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C.A is pretty annoying to me at least.
I steer clear of 777/GE90 threads due to it.
I was wondering when you would chine in. Believe me, the feeling is more than mutual.
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Someone is ruining these forums with these endless false discussions about stupid Inflight ****.

I consider that JC is better, so deal with it..
How very mature. And this has what to do with model aircraft? As always, all are free to move on to another thread if members don't like my posts. It is really strange how some members hate comments about JCW's 777-300ER, yet all flock (and FLOCK is the right word) to a post that is SPECIFICALLY discussing exactly that. And not likely that I will 'shut up'. I'll post when ever and where ever I feel like, so deal with that.

And most of my posts on this forum have nothing to do with JCW 777=300ERs, but the ones that do have had an effect. JCW is doing a V3 GE-90 and is going to be revising the 777 and 787 landing gear due to feedback on this forum.

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As always, you all are free to move on to another thread if you don't like my posts.
There is literally no 777-300ER thread where you don't post your opinion that IF 777'is the best there is. Even if it's just another member posting pictures of their newest arrivals. With those post at some point you will stop people from posting their new models since they don't want their newest purchases to get criticized by someone. Also while TONKA always supplies technical drawings or copies of manuals to support his arguments you just post numbers that you found who knows where. This is no critical review of a model anymore but just pure bashing of JCs 777.
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OK, that's fine CA. Nice to know you and thanks for ruining MY pleasure to visit these forums everyday since 2004 before I became a member 2 years later.

I was reading your comments for over a year now, hoping it will stop someday. But no never.
SHUT UP was meant for the years of annoyance to ME by you. I am very mature btw.

So that's it for me to chip in and showing my displeasure to your posts, especially lately.

Bye, bye Charlie Alpha. Enjoy your Inflights and remember to keep collecting

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Member Charlie Alpha keep provide the wrong information about the GE-90-115 size and hijacking all threads regarding 777, I already gave all the proofs to show the mistakes he made, CA, please reply here because you are annoying all other members now.
Please read the data below, only AN-124/225/Belfast/C-5 and Supper Guppy can put the -115 inside as one single piece(RFI configuration)but NOT the B747 which has door dia. 123 X 134 inches only, GE-90-115B has dia of 168"








GE originally designed the overall 135" engine diameter (11.25') to fit inside a 747F with a modified cargo door. This became unnecessary when the 747 'Dreamlifter' was produced and a copy was retained for Boeing factory use. Your charts show a standard 747F cargo door size, not the factory one. The 747 Dreamlifter is used to transport all large parts to the Boeing factory, including engines, wing and fuselage sections.

Information available from multiple other sources including GE's own website:
GE-90-115B1 dimensions
Fan Diameter=128" (11.25')
Overall diameter=135" (11.25')
With Fan Cowling=11.96" or 97% of the fuselage diameter of a 737*
(* direct quote from GE)
How do you explain this statement in light of a 737 12.25' published fuselage diameter?
You don't need numbers to see that the engine is off. Just look at pics of the real aircraft. No slant and SMALLER engine overall. So if the engine is perfect, what is the new V3 all about?

Just because Inflight's model is wrong doesn't make JCW's model right. It isn't a case of one or the other. It is a light switch, and it isn't black and white for those of you who can actually grasp that concept. Inflight has it's own problems to deal with, which I have also pointed out if anyone bothered to read any other posts.

And your 177" (14.75') figure (I said 14.1') from cowl hinge point to floor DOES include the transport dolly, just like I mentioned before.

Above that, I don't really cart. I have more JCW 777-300ER models by far than I do Inflight. The JCW 'coven' can rant and attempt to sensor all they want. JCW can produce any model that they want, accurate or not. I'll buy the ones that I want and leave the rest, just like the rest of you.

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OK, that's fine CA. Nice to know you and thanks for ruining MY pleasure to visit these forums everyday since 2004 before I became a member 2 years later.

I was reading your comments for over a year now, hoping it will stop someday. But no never.
SHUT UP was meant for the years of annoyance to ME by you. I am very mature btw.

So that's it for me to chip in and showing my displeasure to your posts, especially lately.

Bye, bye Charlie Alpha. Enjoy your Inflights and remember to keep collecting
Finally a post that makes some sense. What doesn't make any sense is someone who keeps reading things that annoy them. You are always freed to move on to another post on this forum at any time.

If you really do allow someone to ruin your 'pleasure' for 2 years instead of just moving on, there are bigger issues than my posts. Just saying.

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There is literally no 777-300ER thread where you don't post your opinion that IF 777'is the best there is. Even if it's just another member posting pictures of their newest arrivals. With those post at some point you will stop people from posting their new models since they don't want their newest purchases to get criticized by someone. Also while TONKA always supplies technical drawings or copies of manuals to support his arguments you just post numbers that you found who knows where. This is no critical review of a model anymore but just pure bashing of JCs 777.
If you bothered to check, I've criticized Inflight's 777-300ER too, mainly for engine pylons and landing gear. I also said the IF nose shape is better, but neither model is prefect. Again, you should actually read the posts before you make inaccurate statements. And in case you missed it, JCW is supposed to be making a 1/200 V# of their engine and Tonka has hinted at a 'different scale' 777-300ER. This seems like a GREAT time for input from CUSTOMERS. The low ground clearance and engine slant on JCW 777s and 787s has been an issue for
awhile now. . Nothing new there.

It is strange how no other source other than Tonka's maintenance 'manual' support the numbers he is presenting.

For more info, see here:
GE90 Commercial Aircraft Engine | Boeing 777 | GE Aviation

Aerospaceweb.org | Ask Us - Boeing 777 Engine Size

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_GE90

Some Unbelievable Statistics About The GE Engine On The Boeing 777 - Business Insider

http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-bigges...lan-sh-5991212

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/200...gine-ge90.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdllTe_spK8


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Boeing 737 Detailed Technical Data


Any other questions. Still waiting for a document that shows a 14.1' engine diameter, not that it really matters. That measurement can be exactly accurate without the the model or the engine being a good one. Like I said in the last post that everyone group tackled me on, the JCW 777-300ER model is pretty good, but as long as they are modifying it anyway (V3 engines), this would be a good time to make it great upgrades and sweep the market.

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I did actually read your post and while it is correct that you criticize Inflights model from time to time you only start bashing on JC threads. You also don't repeat your IF critic as often as you do JCs. Why don't you just let it rest or use separate threads instead of hijacking every JC/GJ 777 thread? I think everybody on this forum knows your point already. While I really appreciate the work you put into this in order to get the most correct model possible it's just annoying to read the same thing over and over again.
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Great info Tonka, however the resident forum troll will never face up to it. I pity all the 77W owners who post their newest arrivals only to be trolled by him, good grief.
Ain`t that the truth.
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I did actually read your post and while it is correct that you criticize Inflights model from time to time you only start bashing on JC threads. You also don't repeat your IF critic as often as you do JCs. Why don't you just let it rest or use separate threads instead of hijacking every JC/GJ 777 thread? I think everybody on this forum knows your point already. While I really appreciate the work you put into this in order to get the most correct model possible it's just annoying to read the same thing over and over again.
Point taken, I've stopped posting pics of any Inflight models also, for the same reason. Talk about the legions of Hell descending on those Inflight 777-300ER threads. But it is always different for THOSE threads I suppose. They never hear any negative comments about the constant 'I'll wait for the JCW model' or 'ugly nose gear', or 'ugly nose with no constructive criticism attached. Or 'Phonix models look like a toy'. You other guys should stop being such hypocrites and practice a small portion of what you are preaching. But when Tonka started talking about a new JCW GE-90-115B1 mold, like he did in the "New Arrival Photos: JCW Etihad A346 and 773' thread, the window of opportunity for customer comment opens again for feedback. Not to press a point, but this IS a thread about the GE-90 engine, not me.

And the engine clearance problem is an ongoing problem for JCW 787s mentioned by many others too. That 'fix' should involve more than just landing gear. Tonka also mentioned a 'fix' for the 777-300ER clearance problem which looks like more than just landing gear, which I wanted to comment on because I think the issue involves the engine size too.

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Great info Tonka, however the resident forum troll will never face up to it. I pity all the 77W owners who post their newest arrivals only to be trolled by him, good grief.
And another 'great' comment from other resident trolls on this forum. Even when there IS a separate thread to discuss the JCW engine mold (LIKE THIS ONE), THIS is what happens. You guys are too much, and by too much I mean not really enough to matter at all..

Never start a comment your self, but you sure jump right on the pile when someone else does. the worst of group sociopathic behavior. This actually applies to a few comments above. And 'pile' is just about the right term for what is going on here..

Look back at ANY of my IF KLM threads and tell me it isn't mutual. I just think you guys don't like anyone criticizing your precious little JCW models.

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The bottom line is Tonka's 14.1:" engine diameter is, by his own admission, an EXTRAPOLATION of the data that you see here, and not supported by any other published source that he has shown, and is contradicted by all the other sources. The actual diameter of the GE-90-115B1 engine, as mounted on the 777-300ER isn't even published in Boeing's own Ground Handling Manual. The 14.1' engine diameter is an extrapolation. I would like to see his supporting document for that number, and then I promise to permanently shut up about engine size. The slightly off engine shape is another matter. I have several Boeing and airline documents that are proprietary, and are in a non-reproducible format for publication, including the pilot's version of the Boeing Ground Handling Manual. I'm not really sure that anyone should be publishing proprietary airline maintenance or aircraft documents when you come right down to it.

But you guys need to get real too. EVERY single Inflight 777-300ER mold thread, and particularly my KLM 777-300ER pic threads, were heavily trolled by a number of you too, particularly you know who. And the same for Phoenix/Eagle pic threads. That should stop also. When I do start a separate thread about the subject the usual 5 or 6 JCW fanatics rate the thread '1Star' and spend their posts making nasty personal comments instead of posting something with any relevance to model aircraft. I at least try to limit my comments to Marcus' announcement threads, unless Tonka posts some news or nasty comment in a pic thread first.

It is REALLY simple. I'll stop when you all stop. Until then, I'll post when and where I want. And if you're annoyed, just move on. No one has a gun to your heads to force you to read anything that you don't want to, at least not here. I'll limit my comments to Marcus' 'new model' posts unless you or the other 'you know who' starts the comments first, as usually happens. In all fairness, Tonka usually does start it recently, but I guess that doesn't matter because he is saying thing you guys want to hear.

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Great info Tonka, however the resident forum troll will never face up to it. I pity all the 77W owners who post their newest arrivals only to be trolled by him, good grief.
Likewise with Phoenix A340 owners. With all the negative comments here, I pity them too! And the Inflight 777-300ER owners also! PLENTY of trolling going on there too.

Phoenix and Inflight models each have their own resident trolls too.

Seems epidemic around here.

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what do I read here.........!!!!!

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Getting back on topic,

Hey Tonka,
There is a very simple answer to the debate going on in this thread. Just show this whole chart so it includes the dimension listed for the '?' and quote page # so it is checkable. It looks like this number would even include the cowling bracket at the top of the engine too. Not really sure why the chart is cut off here. Not really sure why you said the 14.1' number was an extrapolation either. It looks like you have it right here in this chart. The original chart is bigger than what is shown because I can see a partial emblem on the right border, and the measurement lines extending to the top.

That certainly would finally answer my question the actual size of the engine.

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Member Charlie Alpha keep provide the wrong information about the GE-90-115 size and hijacking all threads regarding 777, I already gave all the proofs to show the mistakes he made, CA, please reply here because you are annoying all other members now.
Please read the data below, only AN-124/225/Belfast/C-5 and Supper Guppy can put the -115 inside as one single piece(RFI configuration)but NOT the B747 which has door dia. 123 X 134 inches only, GE-90-115B has dia of 168"





Strange how all of the charts just disappeared. Wonder why?

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So glad I'm not part of this drama.
I can appreciate that. It is no fun at all and you have had plenty of your own in other threads.
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I can appreciate that. It is no fun at all and you have had plenty of your own in other threads.
Exactly. I can sympathize. Good luck.
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Thanks Mike, I'll need it!
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Thanks Mike, I'll need it!
Despite my moniker, I'm not a huge 777 collector or expert. So I've no dog in this fight and I'm not super nitpicky about the various engine moulds or whatever this ongoing beef is about. But if you're pushing for better quality/accuracy in this hobby in general, I'm behind ya.
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Despite my moniker, I'm not a huge 777 collector or expert. So I've no dog in this fight and I'm not super nitpicky about the various engine moulds or whatever this ongoing beef is about. But if you're pushing for better quality/accuracy in this hobby in general, I'm behind ya.
Thanks Mike! That is what this is all supposed to be about, but it has degenerated into being really personal lately.
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Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but not only has Tonka's charts in this thread disappeared, but every CHART and PICTURE for the last few months (since Dec '15) has disappeared also. Chech out his previous posts for yourself. They are all gone.

Very weird.
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Sod the engines ...when do we get square tyres?

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Information available from multiple other sources including GE's own website:
GE-90-115B1 dimensions
Fan Diameter=128" (11.25')
Overall diameter=135" (11.25')
With Fan Cowling=11.96" or 97% of the fuselage diameter of a 737*
(* direct quote from GE)
How do you explain this statement in light of a 737 12.25' published fuselage diameter?
I don't think I need to explain this again, everyone can clearly see 166.48"=13.87' from my image which is no doubt bigger than a 737 at 12.25'. But I almost sure they compared the GE-90-70 ENGINE only(not -115). Also see my answer about ENGINE below.


I must say that in GE or their website, their term of ENGINE is only the propulsive parts, which is much smaller and belong to Chapter 72 of the Maintenance Manual, I think you got the wrong sizes at the very first beginning because you messed up with 'Power Plant' which is Chapter 71 of the Maintenance Manual.




For GE, their Engine is like this:



For collectors, an Engine should like this, you can see the different in size:




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Any other questions. Still waiting for a document that shows a 14.1' engine diameter, not that it really matters. That measurement can be exactly accurate without the the model or the engine being a good one. Like I said in the last post that everyone group tackled me on, the JCW 777-300ER model is pretty good, but as long as they are modifying it anyway (V3 engines), this would be a good time to make it great upgrades and sweep the market.
I already mentioned that none of the publication can show the max. dia of the engine, you have to work it out by calculation.
166.46" is the fan case diameter, engine diameter=fan case diameter+2 fan cowls, if you clever enough, you can understand the diameter of engine will be 14.1' if you add the thickness of fan cowl on each side.




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Getting back on topic,

Hey Tonka,
There is a very simple answer to the debate going on in this thread. Just show this whole chart so it includes the dimension listed for the '?' and quote page # so it is checkable. It looks like this number would even include the cowling bracket at the top of the engine too. Not really sure why the chart is cut off here. Not really sure why you said the 14.1' number was an extrapolation either. It looks like you have it right here in this chart. The original chart is bigger than what is shown because I can see a partial emblem on the right border, and the measurement lines extending to the top.

That certainly would finally answer my question the actual size of the engine.
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GE originally designed the overall 135" engine diameter (11.25') to fit inside a 747F with a modified cargo door. This became unnecessary when the 747 'Dreamlifter' was produced and a copy was retained for Boeing factory use. Your charts show a standard 747F cargo door size, not the factory one. The 747 Dreamlifter is used to transport all large parts to the Boeing factory, including engines, wing and fuselage sections.
"?" is the dia of the fan module, just too large for the screen,I used this image to show the engine can't fit the 747, that's why only one dimension is good enough, I don't need a full image.
When talking about transport of an engine, we always refer as RFI=Ready For Installation or QEC=Quick Engine Change, if you mean can break it down into numerous pieces, a 737 is okay.


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Okay already.

So show the rest of the chart, not that it really matters, and the size issue will be a dead one.

You are the one that brought up the engine size. I don't really care. I just said you ought to check the size if you are making a new engine mold since the current 14.1' engine size is based on an extrapolation. You decided to turn it into a whole thread. The engine size is your hot button, not mine. 0.2cm or even 0.5cm in 1/200 scale difference doesn't make enough difference for you to make such a big deal about it. And the shape of the engine and slant is my 'hot button', but it REALLY isn't worth making this a big deal about that either.

It is your thread and your idea to have a SPECIAL THREAD to discuss just the engine. What exactly did you expect to happen? What did any of you who took the time to post think was going to happen here? This thread wasn't the one of you're best ideas. How well did the 'IF vs. JCW popularity survey' idea work? Not that well obviously. I'll do my best to stop this idiocy. So I guess we can expect you to stop making snide comments on every Inflight 777-300ER thread also? You know you really did start this 'war' when you started bashing the first Inflight 777-300ER pics that were posted here? You know what will work? EVERUONE just letting people post pictures without turning it into a debate every single time. You are AT LEAST as guilty as I am of that. But I think it is time to bury the hatchet and for BOTH of us to quit being so stupid and annoying.

I never knew I had SO much power to destroy everyone's life (believe me, this statement is about as sarcastic as you can get). The unfortunate thing is, despite all of the nasty comments directed at the 'other brand' by you guys, I continue to enjoy my models. I think maybe you all should do the same. The comments in this thread don't exactly scream respect for other members. Ok, tongue in cheek part over. I understand what everyone is saying. You don't want to hear the same comments every time. I get that. I'll do my best to do that. Hopefully EVERYONE else will do the same. But I doubt it.


So on a lighter note, what happened to all of the charts and pics? Just curious.

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This whole thread and the comments should be a severe warning to all, to show what will occur to people that do not have sex for a very long time. Some people start loving their pets more than is considered appropriate, and some seem to develop die-cast engine fetishes..... Scary.
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This whole thread and the comments should be a severe warning to all, to show what will occur to people that do not have sex for a very long time. Some people start loving their pets more than is considered appropriate, and some seem to develop die-cast engine fetishes..... Scary.
Speaking personally?

After all, you did take the time to post this. And you did bring up the whole 'sex with animals' thing too!
Just saying.......

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what do I read here.........!!!!!

seriosuly, please stay on the subjet
it is just a hobby and nothing more
I agree.
But you know what is an even better idea? Not discussing this whole subject of IF vs. JCW 777-300ERs at all any more. Agreed?

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Getting a life might be a good idea....
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Getting a wife sounds like a better idea, in that case you can finally have all the sex you want!!
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When I went to post this graphic, I couldn't copy it so I looks at the source information and traced it back to the Photobucket where it came from. It wasn't associated with Tonka's Photobucket e-mail address, but I did recognize the email address where it came from. I recognized it from previous emails and previous replies. It was there along with many of the other graphics and pictures that Tonka has posted. Within 5 minutes of accessing the Photobucket account, ALL of the recent pics that Tonka has posted disappeared for me from all of his posts on this forum since last December.

I'm not going to mention anyone because most would recognize the name, but I really think it would be better for everyone if we both just dropped this whole 'comparison' thing right now for a whole bunch of reasons.

right now

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I can still see all of the charts from above, maybe there is a problem with your internet connection
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I really think it would be better for everyone if we both just dropped this whole 'comparison' thing right now for a whole bunch of reasons.
Finally something sensible gets written!
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I can still see all of the charts from above, maybe there is a problem with your internet connection
Could be. The weird thing is I could see the graphic initially.... Maybe it is just me who can't see the images.

Oh well, no big deal. Hopefully this thread is grinding to a sudden halt anyway.

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Ok, lets end this scam and these endless discussions for good. The engine is no longer the interesting thing, at least to me. Where the images came from now is more interesting

Here is a link Tonka's Photobucket. If you want a look, you will clearly see the diagram I was asking about showing a 164" across the top of the fan cowl is there. 164"=13.6666', almost EXACTLY the 13.7' I have quoted from the start, and was berated for endlessly. Don't worry if it disappears (they did for me already). I'll post the chart as an attachment at the bottom.

Here's the link to the .

ScreenHunter_04 May. 16 14.44_zpseagpmrn9.jpg Photo by stivaskam | Photobucket


The really interesting thing is the picture in Tonka's post (shown directly below and originally in his 2nd post above) didn't come from Tonka's Photobucket, it came from Marcus', although you will find the exact same diagram in Tonka's bucket also (right click on the original pic and see the page source info.). There has been a rumor in Hong Kong for quite some that Marcus was posting under one or several different names on this forum including 'Tonka', although I don't have direct knowledge of whether this is true or not. This connection has been mentioned before by some very esteemed members of this forum. But there does seem to be some measure of collaboration between the 2 names in any case even if they are, in fact, 2 different people. There are also supposed to be other members here with 'special arrangement' that support JCW models and disparage others as a matter of course. I guess for 'advertising'?



So here's the full diagram below. Although there is another placard on top of it, you can see the measurement of 164" across the top (if it comes out big enough to read). If not, it is page 4-2-1 of the Ground Handling Manual. The fan disk, which I was supposed to be confusing with the cowl diameter doesn't have a dimension. So the chart was, in fact, relevant and available.

Just though you guys deserved to know, not that it really matters. It was more about the engine shape than size for me anyway. Doesn't seem to really matter any more now anyway. All this for a model airplane. Geez.

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Why not let's all agree that the GE-115 is phucking big in anyone's opinion and would turn you into soup if you walked into it.
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Why not let's all agree that the GE-115 is phucking big in anyone's opinion and would turn you into soup if you walked into it.
That's the reason why I started this thread.
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Ok, lets end this scam and these endless discussions for good. The engine is no longer the interesting thing, at least to me. Where the images came from now is more interesting

Here is a link Tonka's Photobucket. If you want a look, you will clearly see the diagram I was asking about showing a 164" across the top of the fan cowl is there. 164"=13.6666', almost EXACTLY the 13.7' I have quoted from the start, and was berated for endlessly. Don't worry if it disappears (they did for me already). I'll post the chart as an attachment at the bottom.

Here's the link to the .

ScreenHunter_04 May. 16 14.44_zpseagpmrn9.jpg Photo by stivaskam | Photobucket


The really interesting thing is the picture in Tonka's post (shown directly below and originally in his 2nd post above) didn't come from Tonka's Photobucket, it came from Marcus', although you will find the exact same diagram in Tonka's bucket also (right click on the original pic and see the page source info.). There has been a rumor in Hong Kong for quite some that Marcus was posting under one or several different names on this forum including 'Tonka', although I don't have direct knowledge of whether this is true or not. This connection has been mentioned before by some very esteemed members of this forum. But there does seem to be some measure of collaboration between the 2 names in any case even if they are, in fact, 2 different people. There are also supposed to be other members here with 'special arrangement' that support JCW models and disparage others as a matter of course. I guess for 'advertising'?



So here's the full diagram below. Although there is another placard on top of it, you can see the measurement of 164" across the top (if it comes out big enough to read). If not, it is page 4-2-1 of the Ground Handling Manual. The fan disk, which I was supposed to be confusing with the cowl diameter doesn't have a dimension. So the chart was, in fact, relevant and available.

Just though you guys deserved to know, not that it really matters. It was more about the engine shape than size for me anyway. Doesn't seem to really matter any more now anyway. All this for a model airplane. Geez.
You will find the answer from your own thread.
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