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Old 05-12-2016, 08:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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....Aviation Center Berlin is selling the Garuda CV-990 for 100EUR and the same model with SAS livery for 120EUR. so there one could come to the conclusion that at least the BIG operators sell very good when it comes to retro liveries. well, SAS isn't that big, but it is well known - though you could ask why other small airlines are not so well known or at least less popular although they also were frequent visitors at the most major european airports.
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fact is that Inflight wouldn't be on the market any more if retro wouldn't sell.

so bring on the 727s, GJ - the market is bigger than you think!
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Retro models sell particularly well if the airline depicted is still going today. That means that collectors young and old will relate to that airline's name and be interested in having models of airliners once flown by them. SAS and Garuda are typical iconic names that have been around for years. Making models in obscure and short-lived airlines is commercial suicide!
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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if you take JAT as an example: JAT was founded 1927 under the "brand" name Aeroput....since 1947 it is/was named JAT Jugoslovenski Aerotransport. 2003 its was renamed JAT Airways, and since summer 2013 the airline's name changed again into Air Serbia under participation of Etihad who own 49% of the airline. so actually it still is JAT with a different name due to the changed political circumstances.

when just take JAT – Jugoslovenski Aerotransport you have had them for 56 years, and 66 years if you connect JAT with JAT Airways. i don't know if that is a short lived Airline....
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Aviogenex was founded in 1968 until 2015, when the airline quit operating any flights due to financial issues. which is 47 years of operation.

And Adria Airways is still around...from 1961. (-> 50 years and counting...)
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Retro models sell particularly well if the airline depicted is still going today. That means that collectors young and old will relate to that airline's name and be interested in having models of airliners once flown by them. SAS and Garuda are typical iconic names that have been around for years. Making models in obscure and short-lived airlines is commercial suicide!
have you ever seen the 727 lineup of Inflight?!?

if these REALLY have sold, just re-release them on the GJ mould and you'll have a lot of collectors who want to get rid of their IF200 model.
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Many retro liveries look very nice. Hence,airlines painting current aircraft in retro colors. It has been done several times. The Malaysian B747-400 looks very nice. Ah,the days of the cheatline.
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Ah,the days of the cheatline.
I have wondered on occasion if aviation enthusiasts grew tired of seeing cheatlines back in those days the same way enthusiasts today are tired of euro white with minimal design (or little swooshes and curvy lines).
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I have wondered on occasion if aviation enthusiasts grew tired of seeing cheatlines back in those days the same way enthusiasts today are tired of euro white with minimal design (or little swooshes and curvy lines).
Good point. That never occurred to me.
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I have wondered on occasion if aviation enthusiasts grew tired of seeing cheatlines back in those days the same way enthusiasts today are tired of euro white with minimal design (or little swooshes and curvy lines).
I'm old enough to remember cheat lines in all their glory. I think a lot of us think of this as the good ole days, especially when we see a timeless classic. But many did start to look the same, and it was revolutionary when airlines started painting the bellies white. Still I love cheat lines as much as the next guy, but only in the era that they were popular. In my opinion a modern aircraft such as the 777, 787 or 350 looks silly with an old fashioned paint job.
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Speaking of which, I flew AA last week and didn't know they had a 737 with TWA livery. There is an Air Cal one as well.
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Speaking of which, I flew AA last week and didn't know they had a 737 with TWA livery. There is an Air Cal one as well.

Don't forget Reno Air.
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I'm old enough to remember cheat lines in all their glory. I think a lot of us think of this as the good ole days, especially when we see a timeless classic. But many did start to look the same, and it was revolutionary when airlines started painting the bellies white. Still I love cheat lines as much as the next guy, but only in the era that they were popular. In my opinion a modern aircraft such as the 777, 787 or 350 looks silly with an old fashioned paint job.
You think a T7 Battleship or polished AA looks silly?! Go sit in the corner and think about what you've said! (just kidding with ya...those are two of my fav birds and liveries )
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You think a T7 Battleship or polished AA looks silly?! Go sit in the corner and think about what you've said! (just kidding with ya...those are two of my fav birds and liveries )
I agree with Mr Burns that generally I don't like cheat lines on modern planes. ( The right livery could change my mind though.)

I'm from the USA but I just got back from a trip that took me through Hong Kong airport and I saw some aircraft with cheat lines that looked terrible. I think the main offender was Air China. The livery just looks dated, which gives the casual passenger the feeling like the aircraft is old too. You could park a brand new 787 at the gate with that livery on it and it would look like something from the 1980s.
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Retro models do sell? Yes & a bit of no I think.

Why Empire airlines haven't showed up in diecast yet...

Many defunct airlines but extremely popular during their time, were still not immortalised in madame diecast
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i dunno if this one looks silly....
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Nostalgia sells....case closed.
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If it does
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and also:

721s
722s
732s

and please AC200 give us a DC-8-61/63 and a 707-321!!!
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on the very top for the JCW moulds....
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and also:

721s
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732s

and please AC200 give us a DC-8-61/63 and a 707-321!!!
707-138 rocks
727-200s
737-300
737-400

Ok retro does sell




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Absolutely in for more classics..not only jets but also connies (l-749 for instance), DC7 and DC4's..
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on the very top for the JCW moulds....
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I absolutely prefer classics to modern airliners. I like having something that is more of a conversation piece in my cabinet. Sadly, there are far too few classics being released. Most conversations about my collection are more like, "Hey, remember these?" "Uhhh...yeah, one flew over my house this morning."
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my favourite is the thais retro.
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Would anyone like to see a better Lockheed Constellation? The Hobby Master version is looking a little tired?
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I only collect retro -- generally anything between 1965 and 1978.
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those were the days....
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I never got bored with cheat lines.
Additionally, all my favorite liveries are from the 60's and 70's.
They were both good looking and dignified.
I think almost ALL modern airline liveries are awful -especially the ones with drawings,so
called 'artwork' and minimalist.
KLM is one of the few exceptions.
Also my favorite airliners are from the 60's and 70's with the one modern
exception being the Boeing 777 (especially the -300ER) which is my favorite modern airliner.
I also agree that retro will sell.
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I never got bored with cheat lines.
Additionally, all my favorite liveries are from the 60's and 70's.
They were both good looking and dignified.
I think almost ALL modern airline liveries are awful -especially the ones with drawings,so
called 'artwork' and minimalist.
KLM is one of the few exceptions.
Also my favorite airliners are from the 60's and 70's with the one modern
exception being the Boeing 777 (especially the -300ER) which is my favorite modern airliner.
I also agree that retro will sell.
I only collect retro and some modern delta
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those were the days....
Thankfully both JAT Caravelle & 727-200 done by Aeroclassics. Still no JAT Convair 340s/440s though!
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The missing B.707s still needed to be done in 1/400: Uganda Airlines, Luxair,

DC-8s still needed to be done in 1/400: UAT, Iberia ('80s scheme), Air Ceylon, Air Spain, Seaboard World (-63CF)

Aeroclassics Comets still missing- Dan Air (4 & 4C), United Arab Airlines/Misrair/Egyptair, Kuwait AW, Sudan AW, East African AW, Saudi Royal Flt.
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Seems there are not that many prop liner lovers here...
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Seems there are not that many prop liner lovers here...
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I only collect retro and some modern delta
Agree.

There are still a lot of GOOD retro subjects waiting for someone to do them. For example, where on earth are the 737-300s? There are literally dozens of subjects from the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s that would have great appeal, especially to U.S. collectors (United, Western, Delta, Continental, Southwest, USAir, Piedmont and Air Cal; some of them in multiple liveries.)

There are also a lot of non-U.S. airlines that flew -300s for many years. Talk about an almost totally neglected, target-rich environment...sooner or later one of the 1/200 manufacturers is going to wake up and make a lot of money.
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