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Old 05-10-2016, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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My first Etihads in 1:200. I think they look great, especially the new 773 GE90s. I also like the "blended" look in the satcom fairings. They don't look glued on as usual. Very impressive releases, what do you guys think?


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Old 05-10-2016, 06:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing. Both are stunning.
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I received the 777 yesterday and love it!!! It's a stunning model.

The A340 should arrive by the weekend!
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Nice models, I know someone don't like the new 773 GE90, but looks extremely good to me.
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amazing photos. excellent model
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Indeed stunning models! I am tempted by both, but will hold off until the EY A340-500.
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Indeed stunning models! I am tempted by both, but will hold off until the EY A340-500.
I hope we see the EY A340-500 soon!
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Nice models, I know someone don't like the new 773 GE90, but looks extremely good to me.
Personally I don't hate the new GE-90 engine mold, although I certainly can see why 'some people' do. The new engine mold isn't bad, it just could be better is all.

Still, despite the downward slanting engines on the 777-300ER and ground clearance that is starting to look like the JCW 787, these both look like decent releases from JCW, and good additions to any collection. JCW does have a history of listening to customer feedback, so hopefully there may be future improvements.

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Personally I don't hate the new GE-90 engine mold, although I certainly can see why 'some people' do. The new engine mold isn't bad, it just could be better is all.

Still, despite the downward slanting engines on the 777-300ER and ground clearance that is starting to look like the JCW 787, these both look like decent releases from JCW, and good additions to any collection. JCW does have a history of listening to customer feedback, so hopefully there may be future improvements.
Well, I never see 'some people' , only one or two...
GE-90-115B V3 is coming, all corrections are based on the inputs of one active member(Gxxxx). Their 777 and 787 with new landing gear which improved the ground clearance already. I know they are working on the A330 and A340 too.
Hmmmm...when I can see the correct wings/engines/nose and gear from the other manufacturer?
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That's GREAT news for most of the members including me if that really happens. I wonder if 'they' are planning to tweak the nose to lower the center point a little also. I sure hope so. That would make for an almost perfect, unbeatable model of the 777-300ER.

See, I knew JCW listened to customer feedback, and that it was not just a waste of time. It is VERY nice for JCW to correct the 777-300ER engines based on just one or two member's comments, but I'm sure it is the right decision. I sure hope it happens because I can't wait to see the results! It could end up being the only 1/200 777-300ER model anyone wants to buy if Inflight doesn't get on the move too. But PLEASE keep in mind that the ground clearance problem on the 787 is mainly the engine pylons, which place the engines too low. The pylons should also be revised. The 787 has the same engine slant problem as the 777-300ER, only with the engine lower to start with.

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While JCW is revising the GE-90-115B1 mold, they may want to take a look at the fan cowl diameter. There is a lot more information available now. The correct diameter looks more like 11.96' (97% of the 12.33' 737 fuselage diameter). That could be part of the problem with reduced ground clearance. Here are a few references and there are many more. Not sure why there is such a discrepancy in the so called 'technical manuals. This also answers the oblique question of whether the GE-90-115B1's diameter is in fact greater that the 737 fuselage diameter.

For more info, see here:
http://www.geaviation.com/commercial/engines/ge90/

Aerospaceweb.org | Ask Us - Boeing 777 Engine Size

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_GE90

Some Unbelievable Statistics About The GE Engine On The Boeing 777 - Business Insider

http://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-bigges...lan-sh-5991212

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/200...gine-ge90.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdllTe_spK8


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There is nothing wrong with the JC Wings 777....wish they would quit tweaking it and just leave it alone! It's great now!
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There is nothing wrong with the JC Wings 777....wish they would quit tweaking it and just leave it alone! It's great now!
Good not great as it is, but it could be better.

Apparently JCW has gotten enough feed back to convince them that revisions are worthwhile. I for one applaud JCW's responsiveness and efforts to make better models, and welcome the changes. I bet others here do too.

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While JCW is revising the GE-90-115B1 mold, they may want to take a look at the fan cowl diameter. There is a lot more information available now. The correct diameter looks more like 11.96' (97% of the 12.33' 737 fuselage diameter). That could be part of the problem with reduced ground clearance. Here are a few references and here are many more. Not sure why there is such a discrepancy in the so called 'technical manuals. This also answers the oblique question of whether the GE-90-115B1's diameter is in fact greater that the 737 fuselage diameter.

For more info, see here:
Aerospaceweb.org | Ask Us - Boeing 777 Engine Size

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_GE90

Some Unbelievable Statistics About The GE Engine On The Boeing 777 - Business Insider

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Boeing 737 Detailed Technical Data
Information available not now but always there, unfortunately none of them is correct. 4.23m is the most accurate data. Ground clearance fixed.
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Information available not now but always there, unfortunately none of them is correct. 4.23m is the most accurate data. Ground clearance fixed.
That would be 13' 10 1/2", or 1' 7" larger than the diameter of the 737 fuselage, which the GE-90-115B1 isn't, hence the credibility problem.

Information available from multiple other sources:
GE-90-115B1 dimensions
Fan Diameter=128" (11.25')
Overall diameter=135" (11.25')
With Fan Cowling=11.96" or 97% of the fuselage diameter of a 737

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdllTe_spK8

Hopefully you have other multiple publishable sources that you would care to share with us that shows differently (this time without blacked out headers). The other dimension that I have frequently heard is 13' 7". It is SO strange that the diameter of the engine and cowling is SO hard to find in reproducible or quotable forms.

I have a feeling that the 14' 1" diameter that you have quoted is including the maintenance dolly for shipping. It would be a real shame to spend money on V3 and have it turn out wrong, if that really is the plan.

Apologies to everyone while Tonka and I do our technical freak outs.

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Information available not now but always there, unfortunately none of them is correct. 4.23m is the most accurate data. Ground clearance fixed.
Hopefully engine shape and diameter too!!
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Stunning models! I feel the cockpit on the etihad 77W is slightly small, but otherwise great details on both models! The A345/346 nose is way better than the 330!
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Here are some reference pics of the 1/144 Zvezda 777-300ER model. Sorry for the unfinished model. I plan to sand, putty and finish the windows with decals, but the model gives a better idea of the basic structures of the nose and cockpit windows in this stage of construction.

I think this model has the best 777-300ER nose in both top view and profile of any model available today. If you compare it to the 1:1 you will see how accurate this nose is. The hallmark of the 777 nose is the relatively round radome, and the large cockpit windows with a relatively vertical front frame member. I think JCW should use this nose as a guide for any remodeling efforts..

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That would be 13' 10 1/2", or 1' 7" larger than the diameter of the 737 fuselage, which the GE-90-115B1 isn't, hence the credibility problem.

Information available from multiple other sources:
GE-90-115B1 dimensions
Fan Diameter=128" (11.25')
Overall diameter=135" (11.25')
With Fan Cowling=11.96" or 97% of the fuselage diameter of a 737

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdllTe_spK8

Hopefully you have other multiple publishable sources that you would care to share with us that shows differently (this time without blacked out headers). The other dimension that I have frequently heard is 13' 7". It is SO strange that the diameter of the engine and cowling is SO hard to find in reproducible or quotable forms.

I have a feeling that the 14' 1" diameter that you have quoted is including the maintenance dolly for shipping. It would be a real shame to spend money on V3 and have it turn out wrong, if that really is the plan.

Apologies to everyone while Tonka and I do our technical freak outs.
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You will be sunk if you keep looking for the information on web, most of them are BS...I did the same thing few years ago and gave all findings to IF and JCW, that's why they have wrong engines before.
'I have a feeling that the 14' 1" diameter that you have quoted is including the maintenance dolly for shipping.'
No, during transport/shipping/storage, fan cowl must be removed and option for install the nose cowl.
Trust me, I deal with this big monster since it first land, I never care about it's size when I am still on the ramp but I am sure is bigger than 737.
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Fan Diameter=128" (11.25')
Overall diameter=135" (11.25')
With Fan Cowling=11.96"(should be foot not inches) or 97% of the fuselage diameter of a 737
You should easy to find that they are all wrong, e.g. 11.96'=18.2 mm if in 1/200 scale. Even the small Inflight engines are bigger than that.

From your video on Youtube, you can see this is -70/80 pylon not -100.




To avoid hijacking again, I started a new thread for us, you can leave you comments here

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...73#post1910673
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Ooh my goodness guys!!! Must you turn EVERY 777 thread...I mean literally EVERY 777 thread into this??? I think you have both made your case on plenty of threads now. Please give it a rest!
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Unfortunately there is not another single piece of documentation that supports your claim or your 'document', including GE's own website.

One of the main problems is General Electric doesn't make the fan cowl, Boeing does. The engines are shipped from General Electric via a 747F in a transport cradle and Boeing fabricates the cowling in their factory. And 166.46" is around 13.8', not 14.1'. And you yourself have pointed out there is just a 1" difference in fan diameters and fan cowl diameters between the -90 and the -115B1 engines. the number I've always heard is 13'7", but even GE's own website doesn't have anything to support that number.

Not interested in a separate thread. I just think your information is wrong or 'doctored'. I would just hope JCW doesn't make the same mistakes again on the GE-90 V3 mold.

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Ooh my goodness guys!!! Must you turn EVERY 777 thread...I mean literally EVERY 777 thread into this??? I think you have both made your case on plenty of threads now. Please give it a rest!
If you don't like the discussion, you are free to move on to a different thread.
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Unfortunately there is not another single piece of documentation that supports your claim or your 'document', including GE's own website.

One of the main problems is General Electric doesn't make the fan cowl, Boeing does. The engines are shipped from General Electric via a 747F in a transport cradle and Boeing fabricates the cowling in their factory. And 166.46" is around 13.8', not 14.1'. And you yourself have pointed out there is just a 1" difference in fan diameters and fan cowl diameters between the -90 and the -115B1 engines. the number I've always heard is 13'7", but even GE's own website doesn't have anything to support that number.

Not interested in a separate thread. I just think your information is wrong or 'doctored'. I would just hope JCW doesn't make the same mistakes again on the GE-90 V3 mold.
You can't find the document doesn't mean you are correct, Okay, I am now found that your findings can even supersede the GE Manual...
People clearly know who is wrong or correct and please give other member a rest for all 777 threads, if you want to continue, go to my thread.
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I will continue where and when I want without permission from other members, including you...
Just a reminder, posting personal comments about another member is against forum rules. Just saying.

I'm not going to reply to your other thread because there is nothing new to say and it would be stupid and pointless. Anyone here is free to check any data that they want with anyone else's permission if they care to. They can even find their own links and post them here if they want.

I don't really care. If I'm wrong, no big deal. I'm just offering suggestions. I'm not sure anyone really cares anymore anyway.
But if your 'data' is wrong, it still isn't my model that will be ruined.

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I feel the cockpit on the etihad 77W is slightly small, but otherwise great details on both models!
i agree with you there.
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