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Old 05-07-2016, 02:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default GJ Virgin A340-600 stabilizer issues

Out of the 4 I received earlier this week, 3 have the horizontal stabilizers broken off. Does anyone else have the same issue? I am wondering if this is a problem with the batch or if my UPS shipment was just handled badly.
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Old 05-07-2016, 02:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This is desapointing. That's why I don't buy the first model from GJ. I made this mistake before... (A330 and A380).
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Broken or just loose? I receive models all the time with the part loose in the box but it's always an easy fix. Just pop it back in with a little glue.
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That works only if the other parts paint isn't damaged by the loose parts rattling around in the box, or if it is actually broken. It really matters if the tab is broken off and a quick repair isn't possible.

Detached parts with no paint damage to the rest of the model=no big deal IMHO. Like my BA A380 which arrived with one of the wings detached, all it took was a little glue and all was right again.

If there was scratches or chips to the paint on the rest of the model though and no damage to the box, it would be heading back to the dealer if it were me.

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On all three they were loose in the box. Obviously broken off as the paint is all chipped around it and actually on the stabilizer. They can be super-glued back in no problem, but there is a noticeable paint issue when you look at the model.

I ordered a replacement batch. Hopefully these are in better shape.

Shame... because it is a stunning looking model - very sleek in this livery.

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It's funny you mention this. I have had this happen a couple times now. Where the stabilizer detaches and also a big chunk of the paint around the area it was attached.

With that, I've also had two models where the floating stabilizers have taken big chips out of the tails paint from what I assume is the stabilizers rolling around the box.

Definitely too bad its not just a quick fix with re-inserting and gluing them back in.

Good luck w the next batch! cheers.
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Old 05-08-2016, 09:14 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Why should you have to resort to sticking it back with a little superglue or other adhesive. If it is 'old' then acceptable. But 'new' is unacceptable imho.
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Picked my Virgin up yesterday and the first box I checked also had the stabilizers detached. The second one was good though. I have to say it's a beautiful model.
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Old 05-08-2016, 11:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I second that Philipr. If I receive my gj va a346 in this way she will be returned to sender. It's not a revell model kit I'm buying.
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I received mines on Friday. The stabilizers were intact.
Even if it weren't and the retailer glued it back, they did a good job because i'm not seeing evidence of any repairs made.
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I am yet to receive my Virgin A346 model from ARD... I really hope that it isn't affected in the same way, such a nice model that I don't want any issues with it in my collection...

Think I may send ARD an email to ask them to check the model before sending it to me...
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I just received my replacements and exactly the same damage as the first batch last week. All have broken stabilizers.
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I just received my replacements and exactly the same damage as the first batch last week. All have broken stabilizers.
Sounds like there is no way around this one. Just expect a repair if you ordered this model. Mine should arrive later this week. We shall see.
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Apparently another batch is being produced
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seems as if the whole run has this problem. i was told they are sold out and can not be replaced. Either glue it back and be ok with the chips or if you send it back there will be no replacement since none are left.
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Mine just got delivered. It looks to be all in one piece. Man, pictures do not do it justice, that is one great looking model!

Hopefully everyone gets replacements soon.
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seems as if the whole run has this problem. i was told they are sold out and can not be replaced. Either glue it back and be ok with the chips or if you send it back there will be no replacement since none are left.
Gemini is sold out of them. Only place you can get is from a dealer now.
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I've got the original A340 so have passed on this as too similar, but I hope you guys can get a good one. Gemini's rendering of that metallic red has to be seen to be believed and it does make for an outstanding lineup. If they were to do an A320 or 747 I'd be straight on it!
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It's not just the Virgin, my Etihad a346 F1 has the exact same issue.
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Any UK collectors received theirs yet?
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No I'm still awaiting her arrival. IN ONE PIECE I HOPE.
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Nope... still awaiting to hear from ARD about my previous order... I can't wait for it to arrive
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Phew, still waiting to hear also, can't wait for her to arrive!!
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Mine just got delivered. It looks to be all in one piece. Man, pictures do not do it justice, that is one great looking model!

Hopefully everyone gets replacements soon.
Got mine today, total beauty.
I have been waiting for an A346 forever!
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Due to get to UK retailers around 15th May I think
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I got mine today and while it is a beautiful model, both stabilizers were broken off. Luckily, I was able to glue hem back on with no paint issues. This is a very interesting QC issue as it seems to be affecting most of these models. Perhaps the factory is using a weaker glue?

On another note, the gears on this model are fantastic! Easy rolling wheels and no crooked assemblies. I wish I could say the same for the GJ/JC 747-8 models! I hope we get some upgrades soon. I have all the passenger 748 models from GJ and JC and each set of gears has some sort of issue. Time to follow the lead of the A340-600!
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I think because the stab on GJ/JC new 346 is extremely thin if compare with other models, the attachment point may be not strong enough, hope they can fix this in next release.

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Mine was shipped yesterday so I should receive it today or tomorrow. Crossing fingers.
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Gemini is sold out of them. Only place you can get is from a dealer now.
The VIR A340 is still available at the wholesale level. Ask your retailer to verify that the rear stabs are secure in their slots.

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I think because the stab on GJ/JC new 346 is extremely thin if compare with other models, the attachment point may be not strong enough, hope they can fix this in next release.
Odd that we didn't see this problem with the JC Wings A340-500 Singapore releases.
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My thoughts too. I would think it had more to do with the packaging for this model than a defect in the horizontal stabilizer tab. Like you mentioned, my Singapore A340-500 arrived without an issue also.
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Odd that we didn't see this problem with the JC Wings A340-500 Singapore releases.
Actually, their 345 has different tail section from 346, so the attachment point also slightly different. You can try compare them.
My bad, I asked them to make the changes...
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Received both the Virgin and Etihad A346 models today.

The Etihad F1 was fine...no stabilizer issues. Virgin stabilizer had fallen off and did nick the model a bit. I was able to re-glue the stabilizer back into place but can't fix the paint. It's not terrible and not really that noticeable, so I'll keep it. I just don't see any point in returning if most of the batch is the same. Likely will get the same thing again. The model is really beautiful. So happy to finally get the A340-600!
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I received mine today. Not only is the starboard stabilizer off, but so was the #1 engine. I don't plan to reattach with glue, however. I will only make a mess if I do.
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I received mine today. Not only is the starboard stabilizer off, but so was the #1 engine. I don't plan to reattach with glue, however. I will only make a mess if I do.
Nah...it's super easy. Just a bit of super glue will do the trick...and I do mean just a bit. I've done this dozens of times with not mess at all.
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Nah...it's super easy. Just a bit of super glue will do the trick...and I do mean just a bit. I've done this dozens of times with not mess at all.
It's much smarter to use Elmer's white glue on models IMO. You don't need the strength of super glue. And Elmer's is much easier and less risky. It doesn't set instantly like super glue, so you have more time to manipulate the part(s) and make sure you get things set perfectly. You also don't risk melting/discoloring the plastic, and Elmer's is basically water soluble and can be almost completely removed with no damage, even after dried. Pretty dumb to use super glue.

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Any chance the fellow collectors who have theirs could post some detailed pictures?
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Same issue different manufacturer, my first Eagle Phoneix arrived with these issues an A330-300 Etihad arrived with not only the stabilizer off the left wing was not glued as well. Glue can fix some issues but not paint that comes off with theses pieces



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Nah...it's super easy. Just a bit of super glue will do the trick...and I do mean just a bit. I've done this dozens of times with not mess at all.
The engine slides onto a groove on the pylon so that was easy. (I was surprised that the engine housings are plastic, though.) And the vertical stab went in fine but again, I didn't use glue. I just don't trust myself with making repairs. But I'm not really impressed with the model so it went back in the box and into storage.
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Totally unexceptable regardless of manufacture.
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Both elevators snapped off on my JCW Cathay 748F... luckily not much damage on the paint around it, but still not a good feeling to have when opening a package!
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It's much smarter to use Elmer's white glue on models IMO. You don't need the strength of super glue. And Elmer's is much easier and less risky. It doesn't set instantly like super glue, so you have more time to manipulate the part(s) and make sure you get things set perfectly. You also don't risk melting/discoloring the plastic, and Elmer's is basically water soluble and can be almost completely removed with no damage, even after dried. Pretty dumb to use super glue.
Ive never had an issue with it. But I do t use much, just a drop. And sometimes I even put a bit out on a piece of paper or cardboard and apply it to the model with a toothpick. That way you don't risk using too much. Somethimes you need a quick hold, so I prefer to use it.
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It's much smarter to use Elmer's white glue on models IMO. You don't need the strength of super glue. And Elmer's is much easier and less risky. It doesn't set instantly like super glue, so you have more time to manipulate the part(s) and make sure you get things set perfectly. You also don't risk melting/discoloring the plastic, and Elmer's is basically water soluble and can be almost completely removed with no damage, even after dried. Pretty dumb to use super glue.
I find this to be very interesting..I have destroyed many a model with super glue accidents due to glue overrun and or dripage. I never knew Elmer's glue would work. Is it strong enough to hold metal in place? Thanks for the helpful tip...I will try that in the future.
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I use Elmers Glue for all repairs except on Landing gear.. It gives you more time to correctly do the repair and will wipe away with a damp cloth (if overrun). Also the it does hold the part in perfect after it dries.
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I find this to be very interesting..I have destroyed many a model with super glue accidents due to glue overrun and or dripage. I never knew Elmer's glue would work. Is it strong enough to hold metal in place? Thanks for the helpful tip...I will try that in the future.
I agree....never heard of it or thought of it either. I didn't think it would hold well. Maybe worth a try.
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I find this to be very interesting..I have destroyed many a model with super glue accidents due to glue overrun and or dripage. I never knew Elmer's glue would work. Is it strong enough to hold metal in place? Thanks for the helpful tip...I will try that in the future.
No problem! This is just my experience and yours may vary, but I'm glad you found my post helpful. I recall reading on this forum several years ago that Elmer's is the way to go for model repairs, for the reasons I outlined above. It works well enough for me.

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Received mined two weeks ago. All is well. Ok the 1 and 4 engine are a tad loose but have not fallen off. And agree with the comment about the red paint, stunning.
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Still waiting for news from ARD. Hope they have a few good ones...
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I find this to be very interesting..I have destroyed many a model with super glue accidents due to glue overrun and or dripage. I never knew Elmer's glue would work. Is it strong enough to hold metal in place? Thanks for the helpful tip...I will try that in the future.
When you use superglue, use the gel instead of the classic.
When needed, i always use superglue (Pattex) gel and use a toothpick to put it correct on the places where needed.

The classic version of the superglue is very liquid, while the gel is more..... well like gel should be.
With the classic version of the Pattex superglue, the chance of destroying your model is much bigger as the glue can "drip" along parts that shouldn't be glued and kill your model, while the gel doesn't have the habit of doing so
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Old 05-19-2016, 02:10 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Default Re: GJ Virgin A340-600 stabilizer issues

I got my Virgin a340-600 a few days ago, and one of the horizontal stabs was broken off. Luckily little paint had been damaged, so I was able to just glue it back in place. I feel like this was an issue with the people putting these models together. Someone didn't use enough glue. Honestly, it's that simple.
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