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Old 03-31-2016, 05:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have googled etc and can't find a 1/200 -80. Does anybody know if one was made? I would love one for my Boeing house fleet.

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I feel lucky I saw this airplane in Everett in the early 1990's (1992 or 1993 can't recall).

Doesn't the Dash 80 have a different fuse diameter than the 707? I think it is smaller if memory serves...

I've never seen a model of it in any scale. I would probably check the Boeing store.
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Dragon did one in 1/400.

http://www.dragon-models.com/d-m-item.asp?pid=DRW55725

However, this is nearer to a KC135 fuselage wise, than 707 so there must be some way of producing it, and include a stand to display model inverted - through the infamous barrel roll.
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Clearly, this prototype with two large cargo doors was intended as a military tanker / transport.

The KC 135 had the same fuselage cross section and was ordered a few weeks after the first flight oh the Dash Eighty.

I am ready to buy an accurate model of this aircraft, preferably with early JT 3 and I am sure that Boeing would be happy to cooperate for this model.

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-80 in 1/200 scale would be nice. The predecessor to both the KC-135 and 707 lines of aircraft. that started both. I marvel each time I drive past March Air Force base on the 215 freeway and see the lines of these active duty KC-135 aircraft re-engined with CFM-56 turbofans still on the ramp.

You really can't have a complete 707 collection without the one that started it all.

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Old 04-01-2016, 11:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I once had Bader make one for me. Kinda chubby, and certainly not up to current standards, but it does occupy a place in my collection. This is a Bader shot, with u/c photoshopped out. Since SkyClassics makes the KC-135 with the narrow cross section, I asked Keith whether he could make this; it would be a lot of work.
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A accurate model of this Legend will be more than Welcome.

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The REAL 367-80 had a different radome as well, which looks much better than the 707-style pointy radome shown in the OP, and currently on display at the Smithsonian (and 737s world-wide). Also different, smaller engines.

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To make sure that things are done properly from the start, it seems essential to have the model validated by Boeing, no guesswork.

The model could be sold at the Boeing store and at other US museums, everyone is a winner in the end.

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All good ideas but how do we get it done?
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I wrote the Boeing store... will update should they reply.
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All good ideas but how do we get it done?
It may sound unrealistic but assuming there is a market for this model and I am sure there is, one of our manufacturers could tell Boeing :
" I would like to make a model of your B 367-80 but I need documents and your final approval ".

With a little bit of goodwill from both sides, it should work.

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I wrote the Boeing store and will advise if they respond.
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The Boeing Store in Everett sells a 1:200th wood model of the 367-80. I think that if Boeing were to commission a model of it for the Boeing Store, it would either be from Hogan or Inflight, as those are the two manufacturers whose models the stores currently sell.

I actually wouldn't mind several models of the 367-80; one for each of the major configurations the plane flew in.

You had the original rollout config:

tanker trials with the boom attached:


Testing the tail mounted engines for the 727:



Large nose probe: Note the high lift devices on the leading edge of the horizontals. This was a test to prove slow flight techniques with large transports, and it was flown stably at only 60mph in this configuration at full gross weight.



And then the final configuration in the OP.

And the 367-80 flew with the nose probe in 1963, by which time the J57/JT-3 turbojets were already switched out for the TF-33/JT-3D turbofans
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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My response from Boeing:

I asked:

Hello
I am a collector if 1/200 models and one which is conspicuously absent
is/are 367-80's, either in first flown, last flown or intermediate
configurations. Have you/would you consider doing such a release with one
of the big/good manufacturers?

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Hi Bill,
Unfortunately this is not something we currently offer. We do suggest checking out the websites of a few of our vendors, they may be able to help you find or even custom create what you are looking for. Darontoys.com, Herpawings.de and Hoganwings.com.hk. Please let us know if you have any other questions.


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Thank you for sharing these very interesting pictures and many thanks for the Boeing store reply.

Dash Eighty was also used for soft field landings at Harper Dry Lake in California, it received additional wheels.

Any serious manufacturer for this model ?

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I'd like SMA to consider it.
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Here's a shot of my Bader version:
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Thank you Danny, the same in the 1/200 scale, success guaranteed.

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Jean Pierre- This is 1:200, more or less. Carved from wood, hand-painted (I don't know how they do that). The primer/paint/gloss coat probably scales out to 30 cm!
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I have connected the Boeing store with SMTS who quoted a high but probably justifiable [for 1 for my collection] amount for a run of 25 1/200 367-80's. Perhaps something will come out of it. If not, I tried.

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Only 25 ?

I would suggest those who are interested in this model to contact SMTS, just to express your interest …

It can work.

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One option might be to have smts take the lead on this and then take provisional orders until enough are receive to mke it cost positive to commit to build. Alternatively, perhaps somebody could twist the guys at ARD to take the lead?
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One option might be to have smts take the lead on this and then take provisional orders until enough are receive to mke it cost positive to commit to build. Alternatively, perhaps somebody could twist the guys at ARD to take the lead?
Iconic aircraft. I'd be in if a production run is made.
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On my next trip to Dulles....

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If you are interested in this model, I suggest you to send an email to SMTS.
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I bought one of their Noratlas, it is nicely made.

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A few years ago (11/13/13), I had this e-mail reply from Keith Williams at SMTS, when I suggested adapting their KC-135A mould to a 367-80:

"We were going to make the Dash 8 years ago when we were working for Collectors Aircraft Models but the project never went ahead for some reason. I'll have a chat with Paul at ARD and see what we can do. The plane was 10 feet shorter than the KC135, that's over half an inch in 1/200."

I would certainly be in for such a project now. But we need the original roll-out version, not any of the modifications!

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I fully concur. Thanks for everything so far JP. Lets be like Tex Johnston and get this -80 rolling.

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