Surinam Air 747

I'm wondering if anyone on here also suffers from zinc rot or pest on their Gemini 200 B757 early release models..?

How can you reverse the process or stop it from becoming even worse..?

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arinmuk

Can you post some pictures of the rot you have on yours ? Which ones have this issue

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NYCAAer

I've never seen any zinc rot on a Gemini 200, I thought this problem was only in the 400 scale but with a different manufacturer. The only thing that I've seen is the Landor BA 747 by Inflight that had the cracking of the paint on the blue underbelly and the tarnishing problem with some polished metal models.

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arctic9048

The oldest 757 I have is the AA regular bare metal and it's fine.

AirCal

Ditto, my AA retro is ok so far too. I also thought the zinc rot was mainly a 1/400 issue. We just have to worry about tarnish on the 1/200s.

KLM4me

The only zinc rot I've experienced in 200 scale was a Hogan British Airways Concorde.

Surinam Air 747

I own that model too & it's fine! The same with the BA 757 model.

The one I had with the zinc rot issue was the Delta Widget 757, it had little cracks on the wing tips & the wing tips seemed a little bend...

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Paris was the greatest city on earth! Vive la France! Tokyo 2020!

Surinam Air 747

It was the Delta Widget 757 but I wish I had taken pictures of it, I gave it to a dear friend of mine... I don't have it no more...

I still have the United 757 which the paint starts to bubble a little, I hope it ain't a sign of more trouble to come...

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Todd Michaels

Your Delta 757 had zinc rot. So you gave it to a dear friend.

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tomcatter

it's a good thing it's not infectious. that would've been too cruel

Surinam Air 747

Of course I'll do anything for a friend because if I would sell or trade it, that would be wrong & unethical...

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tomcatter

bless your heart. you're such a saint!

Retroguy

I dont even want to think about this....cant imagine going in my room and start opening all those boxes and checking older models inside....
That happened though with my Aerclassics 737s and my Pan Am s 707s.....What a waste.

tomcatter

oh, but you should! and while you're at it, might as well take a fleet shot

arinmuk

Well OP scared the living day lights out of me on the widget and i went back and pulled the model out and checked
nothing is wrong with mine
Link to the pictures
https://www.flickr.com/photos/arinmu...57653852631140

to the original Op: which one on the united 757s show bubble. can you post some pictures on the model please.

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crownvic

wing tip cracks??? bend??? sounds like it was damaged to me...I'm not sure what point the OP is making here as this thread title and story does not sound legitimate...but then again what do I know....

The factories where the few 400 scale models from different manufacturers that did exhibit zinc rot originated are long shut down and were never used again.

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Ledoctor

I mean the real planes rust too..makes it more authentic

crownvic

Ive asked the moderator for help in eliminating this thread in which I have gotten no help...This is a vindictive thread with no substance or merit..

The model in question is 100% aluminium and cant have zinc rot..

So in everyones mind please eliminate this thread...

thank you..

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Mike777

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. Here we go again, crownvic with his B.S. censorship, trying to naysay everything as "vindictive" or "slander" or "unfair attacks" on his beloved GeminiJets.

This thread ABSOLUTELY needs to stay. How on earth can crownvic claim to know that zinc rinc (or any other form of unacceptable decay in a model) hasn't occurred on a single 1:200 GeminiJets model? Unless he is simultaneously and continuously inspecting every single GJ200 model ever produced, then he can't possibly say zinc rot has never occurred.

In fact, a respected member of this forum (member since 2001 or so, loves the MD-11... he can out himself if he wishes) mentioned a few months ago on a different forum that his Gemini 1:200 Saul Bass 757 is suffering from zinc rot. Oh, and crownvic was also made aware of this fact.

crownvic

Ill repeat myself....you cant have zinc rot on an aluminum model...the 757 is aluminum in 200 scale....case closed....

where are the nitpicker experts when you need them???

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Mike777

"Zinc rot" is simply a general term in this hobby that has come to mean any kind of unreasonable decay of a model in a relatively short period of time, no matter the material. We're not all metallurgists.

It's kinda like how people call a tissue a "Kleenex", no matter the brand.

Go on, crownvic, keep trying to dismiss this.

crownvic

[QUOTE=Mike777;1775082
How on earth can crownvic claim to know that zinc rinc (or any other form of unacceptable decay in a model) hasn't occurred on a single 1:200 GeminiJets model?


Where and when did I make that claim????

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crownvic

I see,,,, I did not know aluminum can rot...Perhaps its time to re-examine that term as its wrong...

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connorc

Here's a thread from a while ago that discussed apparent zinc rot (or other metal decay) on a Gemini TWA 757.

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...-zinc-rot.html

Mike777

You implied it. If you're now changing your tune and admitting "zinc rot" (OR ANY OTHER FORM OF UNREASONABLE DEGRADATION, NO MATTER THE MATERIAL THE MODEL IS MADE OF) actually could be possible on a Gemini (or any other brand) 1:200 model, you're cool with this thread, right? No reason to get all hot under the collar and insist this thread be deleted.

Mike777

Um, what about them? The yellowing issue? Yeah, so what? I know it exists, I've informed others it exists, I've criticized Herpa for it and think it sucks. But I don't suggest threads discussing it to be deleted. Nor am I related to to owners of Herpa, lol.

Oh, but at least Herpa sent customers brand new models free of charge (and even let them keep the yellowed ones) when the models were still in production. And they also fixed the issue once it was discovered.

Anyway, I'm really not sure why you mentioned me and Herpa Premiums. You're grasping at straws...

Mike777

Thanks for posting that very relevant link. AND IT HAS PICTURES. I rest my case, crownvic.

crownvic

...where did I imply it..and the thread and photos above clearly show an engine snapped off and the stress cracks from that snaped engine..

By the way the yellowing of Herpa Premiums is a degradation of the model in a short period of time therefore suffers from Zinc rot too...

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crownvic

...read the entire thread and you will see the comments about how it is not zinc rot

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"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

JTS97Z28

I wont use any specific terms here, but the original Gemini 200 AA MD80 release was well known to have a deteriorating polished metal fuselage. It got bad enough to where I got rid of it. The newer release has been flawless. There was a thread (that I may have even started) on this exact issue and several people reported their polished fuselages getting worse and worse. Call it what you want, but it did progressively get worse. When I bought it new it was a perfectly clean and clear polished fuselage. I have no idea if it was the metal fuselage itself or something with the coating...who knows.

crownvic

100% true...mine did the same thing..massive tarnishing...

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"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

Mike777

Are we reading the same thread? Cuz I'm seeing several responses of people agreeing that it indeed looks like "zinc rot." And then a pretty funny series of troll posts that was fun to read again.

crownvic

yes we are,,,,they are all commenting on it,,, but they were all wrong....

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Mike777

Riiiiight.

I'm not saying they were right, and I'm not saying they were wrong. Because I'm not a metal expert, nor have I examined the model in person. Are you a metal expert, or have you examined the model in person? I'm curious as to why you are once again making absolute claims when you absolutely are not in a place to do so.

Todd Michaels

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Mike777

By the way, crownvic, I thought you were secluding yourself to the trade section and retiring from the rest of the forum. What happened to that? Obviously you are still watching the entire forum like a hawk, ready to squelch any supposed criticism of GeminiJets. Sad.

crownvic

from the internet.....Aluminium does not rust - corrode. Its surface is protected by a natural layer of aluminium oxide. This prevents the metal below from coming into contact with air and oxygen. Unlike rust, which can flake off the surface of iron and steel objects, the layer of aluminium oxide does not flake off.

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Nothing but the best! "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don't you, Clark?"
"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

crownvic

I am enamored by you and cant stay away....btw how is the weather in TX today and are we meeting up next week????

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"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

Mike777

Wow, creepy old man stalker alert.

Oh, and the weather has been absolutely beautiful.

crownvic

what about next week?

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Real tomato ketchup Eddie?
Nothing but the best! "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don't you, Clark?"
"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

Mike777

You gonna take me on a date to Arby's?

crownvic

sure...where will you be Saturday?

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Real tomato ketchup Eddie?
Nothing but the best! "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don't you, Clark?"
"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

Mike777

Probably alone in my basement making sure my dacrometers are all properly calibrated, and closely scrutinizing every millimeter of my Gemini models for the nth time, looking for things to nitpick and then post about on interwebz.

crownvic

Oh...you told everyone you'd be in San Francisco on the Show and Convention section but I guess you forgot...I was hoping to meet you there...

either way this thread is dead and so is zinc rot too....signing off..

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"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

Mike777

Such low energy!!!

Moving on to the next thread about Gemini paint flaking off. Can't wait to see what excuses come up for that one

crownvic

...Zinc Rot on aluminum....

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"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"

neilc777

My widget 757 does have some paint bubbles on the tops of the wings, but they may have been there for years and I just didn't notice.

tomcatter

neilc777

Ok, we get it. Aluminum models are immune to zinc rot as there is no zinc. Perhaps something else is wrong with these models?