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Old 11-13-2015, 01:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys , i just picked up a picture of this Model on face book from a friend of mine . I guess the model shall be like that .... I am affraid the HF antenna is missing on the right wing ..... So wait and see !
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Hi guys , i just picked up a picture of this Model on face book from a friend of mine . I guess the model shall be like that .... I am affraid the HF antenna is missing on the right wing ..... So wait and see !
I agree (thumbs down) at first glance I thought I was looking at an IL-96 !

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Old 11-13-2015, 02:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do you mean this seems too chuby ?
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Old 11-13-2015, 03:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Do you mean this seems too chuby ?
Definitely.
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Old 11-13-2015, 03:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My God, have they ever seen a B 707-328 or more simply, a -320 ?

It would be interesting to know if this thing is one of the pre production models or the final product.
If what we see is the final product, I'm afraid it will gather dust on the retailer shelves.

The blue cheat line along the forward fuselage makes me think that in this area the cross section is not correct.
Also, a glaring error, the front door is wrongly positioned, it should be almost above the nose landing gear.
Please compare with the document I attach.
Yes Denis, all the -328 (the AF version of the 320) have an HF antenna on the right wing.
Also there should be a pitot tube on the leading edge of the fin.

I don't need to go further, this thing is not for me, they will not get my money.
I had an empty spot for a decent B 707-320 or -120, so far, there is nothing on the market, I 'll wait to see what SMA or WM will produce in the coming months (years ?).

That said, thank very much Denis for sharing this picture, we have to be very careful before buying this product.

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Old 11-14-2015, 11:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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It seems that this model is at an advanced stage in the production, this picture could have been taken at the Air France museum, which is in charge to validate all the models wearing the AF, UAT, TAI, UTA, or IT liveries.

I remember the many models which received the green light despite inaccuracies which were very difficult to ignore.
Super Constellation, Caravelle, B 747-100, B 747-200 F, Catalina and this time the B 707-328.

I sent an e mail to the museum asking them not to go ahead with this model until improvements are made, I did not elaborate on the different inaccuracies.
The museum should be able to see what is wrong.
in fact, these guys have no real knowledge of the aircraft.

I look forward to hearing from them.

The answer could be interesting.

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Pictures on acb show the HF antenna on the wing but it also only shows up as pre order. Maybe it's a pre production model? Here's the link https://www.aviation-center-berlin.de/p/557245
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Not one post identifying who makes this model until I referenced the link above and found out it was Herpa!
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Sorry, this model was announced long time ago …
It was supposed to be released in July or August.
I understand that the nose was reworked.

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Old 11-14-2015, 12:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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seems like to be a job for AC200 to give us a correct version.
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I hope this dreadful Herpa mould is consigned to the waste bin like their similarly ill-fated DC-8-50.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I hope this dreadful Herpa mould is consigned to the waste bin like their similarly ill-fated DC-8-50.
Yes, I have to agree. Normally I have much admiration for Herpa, but in this 707 series, they have caulked-up royally. So many iconic aircraft buggered. For shame, Herpa.
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Old 11-24-2015, 09:20 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hi guys , i just came out of the " boutique du Musee Air France " in Paris : the Model is exposed . I am sorry to tell you how desappointed i am : no HF antenna , and the nose is not looking good at all . I think this 707-328 is for collectors of all AF items ( such like carves, ash trays, security cards .... )
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Hi guys , i just came out of the " boutique du Musee Air France " in Paris : the Model is exposed . I am sorry to tell you how desappointed i am : no HF antenna , and the nose is not looking good at all . I think this 707-328 is for collectors of all AF items ( such like carves, ash trays, security cards .... )
Thanks for the update........Hello AC200!....We need your help.
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Old 11-24-2015, 01:23 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Somehow the Herpa 707 is like a phantom: All we ever get to see are quick shots from angles that are not really helpful to rate the model. Where are our top-class photographers when we need them???
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Thank you Denis, another model that I will never buy.

Yes Graham, the only solution is AC 200 or SMA, we need a true B 707-320 and to bring some diversity, short fin and no ventral fin would be fine.

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I actually like my Herpa Pan Am 707. The only problem that stands out for me are the rounded cockpit windows. But since it only costs a fraction of an Inflight or AC model here in Germany I'm still happy.
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Unfortunately, we don't know much about this model.
It seems that after the Pan Am release, the nose has been reworked … and the result is now worse than before.

Good pictures would be welcome, I am not brave enough to buy this model.

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Yes Graham, the only solution is AC 200 or SMA, we need a true B 707-320 and to bring some diversity, short fin and no ventral fin would be fine


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Yes . AC200 or SMA could make the job !
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:34 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Hi Guys . I have to say the AF boutique showed the model in a wrong way : the Model was displayed in a small corner of the Window , through which i could hardly see the aircraft's front part . A couple of weeks before i saw a better shot of the Model on ebay.ch ; this pic made me buy this Model ; although it has no HF antenna on the wing, even if the model fuselage looks a little chuby , the cockpit windows are a little too big, well in its whole part , this model looks not bad, and i must admit i am happy with it . Let us have a look on the Pictures i joined herewith and on the next messages . Cheers .

PS / sorry i try to attach a picture , but unsuccesfully .... May be later on ....
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:42 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Here is one picture at least !
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Here is some I took it doe's not seem to bad in this livery, maybe if AC will do it as someone suggested.
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Thanks, guys, for the pics! Well, I'm not sure - the missing antenna still is a major issue and the model does look a bit chubby... But on the other hand the cockpit-windows seem to have been re-designed by Herpa and the cheatline is in the correct place. That's something other manufacturers didn't get right. I guess I'll buy one of these 707s when it comes out in Lufthansa-livery.
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Old 12-27-2015, 01:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I pre-ordered the Herpa PA 707-320 when it was first announced, before any pics of it had been shown. I figured it would be the only way I'd get my hands on one, I was sure it would sell out very quickly. I had great hopes for the model and the subsequent BOAC and Air France releases.

Then it was pure disappointment once I saw the photos and got mine in the mail. The fuselage shape reminds me of a Breguet 763 Deux Ponts, or an old cat when their belly starts sagging, among other issues.

So I didn't even consider the BOAC and Air France, and sold the PA on eBay.
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