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Old 08-24-2015, 01:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just got the JCW (not Gemini as I originally posted) 1/200 'KLM 95 Year' 777-300ER today and WHAT A GREAT MODEL.

Judge for yourselves, but there looks like there are some subtle changes that really enhance the look of the model. As usual, sorry for the crappy cell phone pics.

First of all, the nose on this model looks a little blunter and the cockpit windows look slightly larger. The overall effect is very good and the nose looks better to me, almost perfect.

The engine intake lips look a little larger to me too. I compared them to the InFlight intake lips and while they used to be smaller, they are now slightly larger in diameter than the IF model.

Couple this with Gemini's/JCW's excellent attention to detail makes for one REALLY nice model.

InFlight will really need to step up their 777-300ER mold to even be competitive with this model. BTW, I have the IF KLM 777-300ER on pre-order so I can post comparison pics when I get that model.

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I noticed the engines seem bigger too... Is it noticeable ?
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I noticed the engines seem bigger too... Is it noticeable ?
It is bigger and you will notice if you have something to compare it with, or are observant like you. I may post some comparison pics later, but the old intake lips were slightly smaller that the IF model, and these are definitely a little bigger.
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hard to tell, definately need more pics with a previous release
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Is this the most recent release or one from a couple of months ago?
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Very nice model. Thanks for sharing!
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You're all welcome.

This is the most recent Gemini KLM 777-300ER release and the JCW 95 Year release. Keep in mind I only have 2 hands and it was a challenge keeping the models lined up for the shots, but I think they give a good idea of the differences.

I have a few comparison shots too. The first 4 are comparing the most recent 2 KLM 777-300ER releases Last and New liveries. The JCW 95 Year model is the top one. I really think the difference is the intake lip diameter and not the engine mold.

The next 3 are comparing the Gemini model to the InFlight one. Again, the JCW '95 Year' model is the top one. I was surprised to see the JCW engines and the InFlight engines are almost the same size in all dimentions, including intake diameter.. The most noticeable difference is the length of the exhaust (hot section) section of the 2 engines (the IF is shorter and therefore more accurate, although the stock JCW engine pylon is miles ahead of the IF model).

At the risk of repeating myself, InFlight will have to step up their mold with all of the promised changes to even be competitive with this model.

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I have not seen Gemini release this model? I thought it was JC Wings? Only one I've seen recently from Gemini is the new colors version.
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I have not seen Gemini release this model? I thought it was JC Wings? Only one I've seen recently from Gemini is the new colors version.
Oops, you are right. I kind of think of JCW and Gemini as the same company, but this one was a JCW release.

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Okay, I know I was not going crazy
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I think I'm coming to the conclusion after looking at my other JCW and Gemini 777-300ERs that this model DOES NOT have any new modifications to the mold. Maybe new cockpit windows but that is about it. JCW just did a very good job on this one and it shows, but I think that is about it.

That is ok. I'm starting to think, again, that the JCW 777-300ER models are about as good as it gets in 1/200 scale models even without any modifications to the mold. I will still do my minor engine pylon modification to get the engines a little closer to the wing. But only on models that I plan to keep.

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Thank you for your comparison and other pics. I think I will buy this one too in favour of the Inflight one!
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JC will be making the exhaust cone of the GE90 smaller as you have pointed out that they are actually slightly too big, but i'm not sure from which releases onwards
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JC will be making the exhaust cone of the GE90 smaller as you have pointed out that they are actually slightly too big, but i'm not sure from which releases onwards
I think Marcus said JCW is making a new GE-90 mold with 'something extra' and I think it will first appear on the Singapore 777-300ER release, but I could be mistaken.
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W O W model nice pictures thanks for the post
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Very nice model

One question though: Why is the radome not outlined? I thought they added a radome outline on the new liver KLM
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Very nice model

One question though: Why is the radome not outlined? I thought they added a radome outline on the new liver KLM
The new livery KLM (GJ) does have the radome outlined, but the outlining makes the radome look too small IMO. I think I actually like the JCW '95Years' better without the outlining better until they can make the outlining the right size.

The outline should start almost right in front of the cockpit windows. Done correctly, I think it would make the nose look 'right' for a 777, but unless the outlining is absolutely correct, I think the model looks better without it..
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Nice model and pictures of the KLM 95th. I would like to see JC's KLM 747-400 95th Anniversary Edition that was announced around the same time I think.
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These KLM models are nice and all but we have to many 777-300's coming out of KLM already, just as we have so many 747-400's coming out too... I'm just waiting for a beautiful KLM MD-11 with the 95 printed on the fuselage & the engine fan blades in the #2 engine to come out period.
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All looks very good, CA, but the '95' graphic on the fuselage sours it for me. The rest of the model is quite spectacular! I only wish I had room for a modest KLM collection too. I've always loved that livery.

Thanks for the very informing images!
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These KLM models are nice and all but we have to many 777-300's coming out of KLM already, just as we have so many 747-400's coming out too... I'm just waiting for a beautiful KLM MD-11 with the 95 printed on the fuselage & the engine fan blades in the #2 engine to come out period.

Waiting for that one to!! And the farewell coll.
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All looks very good, CA, but the '95' graphic on the fuselage sours it for me. The rest of the model is quite spectacular! I only wish I had room for a modest KLM collection too. I've always loved that livery.

Thanks for the very informing images!
I hope a 'regular' last livery KLM 777-300ER is produced soon without the '95 Year" sticker too. I've always loved that livery too, particularly on the 777-300ER. I think JCW has a regular 'last livery' 747-400 planned, so why not a 777-300ER to go with it. I have a feeling that would be a very popular model.

And you are welcome. I'm glad you and others found the pics useful.

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I think Inflight need to modify the wing profile at the bottom too, I can see the GJ/JC one is more accurate at this area.

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I think Marcus said JCW is making a new GE-90 mold with 'something extra' and I think it will first appear on the Singapore 777-300ER release, but I could be mistaken.
Very close now, this is the first look of their new engine with new pylon, believe or not, 0.2mm bigger in diameter can be a huge difference.

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Very close now, this is the first look of their new engine with new pylon, believe or not, 0.2mm bigger in diameter can be a huge difference.

The engine looks VERY good, almost prefect. The shape of the pylon looks very good too, but it still looks like it mounts the engine too low in relation to the leading edge of the wing.

From directly in front of the aircraft level with the wing, the pylon tip should extend just above the leading edge wing and the top of the engine cowl should be level with the leading edge. It is hard to tell from the picture above, but the engine still looks too low. A front view would either confirm or prove me to be wrong.

Any chance of a direct front view Tonka?

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I think Inflight need to modify the wing profile at the bottom too, I can see the GJ/JC one is more accurate at this area.

I think the difference you are pointing out is mainly due to the downward sloping inboard leaqding edge on the IF model and the resulting shallow profile of the under side of the wing.

I think this might be corrected when InFlight fixes the inboard leading edge of the main wing.

Your photo does point out one other thing. Are KLM 777-300ERs supposed to have corroguard on the bottom surface of the main wing? Most 777-300ERs do.

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I think this is how the pylon should look. Tip slightly above the level of the leading edge of the wing and engine cowl level with the leading edge. THIS pylon with YOUR engine would be spot on!

Sorry for the cell phone pics and 'dust' around the engine. I just finished the mod and haven't cleaned it up yet, but this gives you a good idea of what I am talking about.

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I am still not convinced, the exhaust cone looks good but I really wish that the intake can be angled a bit

a better photo of the profil is required

(I also wish that no gaps would be seen between the pylon and the wings too)

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I am still not convinced, the exhaust cone looks good but I really wish that the intake can be angled a bit

a better photo of the profil is required

(I also wish that no gaps would be seen between the pylon and the wings too)

The exhaust cone still looks a little narrow to me compared to the 1:1 photo, but I agree with you about the angle of the top of the cowl froward of the pylon. Definitely the wrong angle (too steep).
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Aw, a few more preview pics, please Tonka? Like maybe front and quartering views maybe?

It looks good, real good. Just not perfect. Still, a real improvement over the existing mold.

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Aw, a few more preview pics, please Tonka? Like maybe front and quartering views maybe?

It looks good, real good. Just not perfect. Still, a real improvement over the existing mold.
It's not easy to tell from my photos, this is just a sample from them, I knocked the old one off and put this on, no glue use when attached to the wing. The slot on the wing are so good without loose, so I can switch between old and new. Also the slot on the pylon was caculated, I think we can switch the engines if want, they will have two different engine versions too.






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I find it weird that manufacturers can not make an accurate engines in resin with all pictures available nowadays

Well not perfect but it looks good enough for me in 1/200, really hope it will be on SIA b777-300er
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Thanks, that was what I was looking for.

The new engine mold and pylon look good. Even small differences in the angle of the engine makes a big difference in the appearance. It looks like when the engine is glued to the wing, the gap will disappear and the engine and pylon will be about as close to the real thing as you can get in a model. Well done.

If I were to change anything, it would be to make the lower surface of the cowl a slightly more curved. Just slightly. The apex of the bottom curve looks like it is in the right place though.

Again, well done.

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