I am deeply saddened to report that Mr. Clinton Groves passed away on June 30th. For anybody involved in airliner modeling, the name Clint Groves and Airliners America-ATP should bring back some good memories.
Clinton started the very first airline mail order business from his house in South San Francisco, CA and later the house on Abelia Court in San Jose. I cannot describe the great excitment that it was to receive by mail his new ATP model and decal catalog which came in black and white. In order not to miss any new items, I had to read slowly the whole catalog and then spent hours imagining what the finished models would look like with their new decals!
Rest in peace Mr. Groves, as you greatly contributed to make our hobby possible and touched so many lives in a very positive way.
Finally I would like to make a note that I took this information from drawdecal.com web site, which was posted by Posted by Greg Drawbaugh.
I'm sorry to hear about that. I have many models and decal set that I bought from him. I think he was a pioneer and in a class by himself. I spoke to him several times and he was always a fountain of knowledge. I still have some of the detail decals that I bought from him.
Since ATP stopped doing business I don't think anyone has really filled their shoes. Clint, you are already sorely missed. May you rest in peace.
Rest in peace my old friend Clint; may your memory be for a blessing!!
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It was ATP that introduced me to customizing models with liveries I could choose from their huge decal selection. I remember thinking I had died and gone to heaven! First was the "Fly Eastern" delivery livery on an Airfix 721 and I loved it. It really added so much fun to my hobby.
I too recall my excitement when a new ATP catalog would show up. I've still got many of his decal sets and a few of his kits as well. Anytime I'd call him, he was a wealth of knowledge and super helpful. A true pioneer and a really good man has been lost. Rest in peace Clint. You will be missed by all those you helped through the years!
I too can attest to all the above comments..an early pioneer in the mail order airline hobby business..
Can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere, leave you for dead?
Naw, I’m doing just fine Clark.
Real tomato ketchup Eddie?
Nothing but the best! "I don't know why they call this stuff hamburger helper. It does just fine by itself, huh? I like it better than tuna helper myself, don't you, Clark?"
"you're the gourmet around here, Ed!"
I had the unique pleasure of working for Clint out of his home in San Jose in exchange for (mostly) kits and decals. No doubt I fulfilled orders for members here at some point in time. I also helped him with his tables at the SFO shows for a couple of years. At one point I considered buying his whole operation after he moved it to the little town Gustine, CA where I visited him for a day.
The man had a LOT of great stories which I was very fortunate to hear him talk about during the time that I was in his employ. I wish that I had the chance to see him again before his passing.
I agree with all the statements above. I guess it's mostly us "older" folks that dealt with him since we mostly started dealing with him in the 70's. How time flies! I started ordering back in 77' when ordering decals by mail was relatively new. I remember seeing his ad in a magazine called Airline Quarterly. R.I.P. Clint and thanks for the great memories.
A year or two later I started ordering as well from A.H.S. on Horton Road in the U.K. I think they are gone as well by now.
Does anyone remember them?
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Thank you for starting this thread. I am sorry to hear Mr.Groves passed. He most certainly touched many lives in this hobby. I remember buying models, postcards, decals from ATP. His slide catalog was amazing! What great stuff he had available as duplicates. This was decades before Airlinefan.com and Airliners.net came on line where we have access images of most anything that flew. I read his interview from the link posted in this thread. Hey, his Martin 202-404 book was great! In 1974 very few books were published like his. It came out 9 years before I attended my first convention ( Washington D.C. 1983). If anyone is interested, you can look at some of the slides he took, and collected at Airlinefan.com.