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View Poll Results: How would you like the 'blanks' to be finished?
As they are now - cockpit and cabin windows. 30 69.77%
Cockpit windows only. 8 18.60%
White fuselage only - no windows. 4 9.30%
Totally unpainted. 1 2.33%
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Old 04-10-2015, 12:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default JC Wings Blank Models

I am looking at getting a couple of the blanks and V1 Decaling them this being one. V1 Decals - Decal Details

My question is to those who have done this before, how did you remove the cabin windows on the blank?

The poll question asks about a couple variations. If the results are different than is currently done, I will send them on for future consideration.

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Old 04-10-2015, 01:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It depends if the tampon-printing is protected by a clear coat or not.
I made e few tests on an old Hogan die cast model, the printing can be removed very easily with non acetone nail polish remover without any damage for the paint.
These blank models are a real opportunity to have models that will never be made.

My vote is for cockpit and cabin windows.

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Old 04-10-2015, 02:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks JP!

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It depends if the tampon-printing is protected by a clear coat or not.
I made e few tests on an old Hogan die cast model, the printing can be removed very easily with non acetone nail polish remover without any damage for the paint.
These blank models are a real opportunity to have models that will never be made.

My vote is for cockpit and cabin windows.

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Old 04-10-2015, 07:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What I don't get is how you could then put a decal over the preprinted windows doors etc without it looking 'naff'
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What I don't get is how you could then put a decal over the preprinted windows doors etc without it looking 'naff'
You don't. If the new livery covers the existing windows, remove them, otherwise you can leave them intact.

If you want Air France, blanks are a great start. Just add logos and dirt!
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Old 04-10-2015, 09:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've done quite a few models with decals. Here is one but did not need window decals. Its a pain trying to get all those windows straight. And I don't clear coat my models after decals are applied.
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I've done quite a few models with decals. Here is one but did not need window decals. Its a pain trying to get all those windows straight. And I don't clear coat my models after decals are applied.
Beautiful job!

Sure hope Gemini releases this one day!
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Old 04-11-2015, 02:22 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I would be interested in seeing results from anybody else who has done a custom using a 'blank'. Any hints or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks to RT for showing his 727.
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This B 727-200 is beautiful, congratulations.
I didn't start from a blank model, but what you are planing is much more simple.

My donor was an Hogan A 300 B 2, the paint was removed from the fuselage which was repainted using primer and white gloss paint.
The fuselage being plastic, non acetone nail polish remover did a very good job and did not attack the plastic.
Decals are from F-DCAL, yes, positioning the windows, the doors and the cockpit windows was not so easy.

Before you start anything, check the thickness of the decals, cut a small part and apply it on any surface.
Sometimes, decals are so thin that they roll under themselves when you slide the decal off the backing paper.
In that case, the solution is to spray the decal with a clear coat to make it stiffer.
That's what I did with some of my resin models and it works.

Paint the leading edge and the trailing edge of the fin before applying the decal on it, the fin looks black, it shouldn't be too difficult.
Caution, paint applied with a brush is "thick", and you will see the thickness under the decal, it could be better to use a spray can.

When cutting the decal for the fuselage, try to follow what could be "natural panel lines", that will contribute to forget that you used decals.
Also before applying the decals on the fuselage, i would spray a clear coat on it.

And when finished, another clear coat will protect everything.

One more thing, before you start, make a copy of your decals on a blank sheet of decal, your printer will do the job perfectly and it can be interesting to use the copy, you keep the original for you, if you have a problem, all is not lost.

Your project is very promising, I look forward to seeing the finished model.

Jean Pierre.

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Work in progress on an Herpa ATR 72, the model will receive the Air France livery.

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It depends if the tampon-printing is protected by a clear coat or not.
I made e few tests on an old Hogan die cast model, the printing can be removed very easily with non acetone nail polish remover without any damage for the paint.
These blank models are a real opportunity to have models that will never be made.

My vote is for cockpit and cabin windows.

Jean Pierre.
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I went with JP here on this survey as I agree with his point on this post
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Non-acetone nail polish remover works quite well to remove tampo's, but be very careful near the details you wish to leave intact. Use a mask if possible.
I'm taking a 1:200 Lufthansa 747-8 and converting the port side to a FoF Air France -8. Repainting nacelles and vert. stab white, decaling, thinning inside of feather-edged nacelles to as near a knife edge as my vibrating fingers permit.
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You are absolutely right my friend, a minimum or maximum of care is necessary during the process and sometimes, it is not enough.

Particularly true when you want to remove something which is close to a detail you wish to keep.

On the picture I attach, it was important to keep intact the cockpit windows, I had to be very careful not to touch them when I removed the registration above the windshields, wiping frequently the excess of liquid during the process.

I used a very thin brush.

Caution, the nail polish remover "runs" very quickly on the surface.

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Supply SCREEN PRINTED (with white backing) decals and UNPAINTED (white) fuselage/engine/tails
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