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Old 04-07-2015, 11:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wow finally glad to see the noise calm over the inflight vs jc wings controversy 747's. Ive been a collector of the inflight 747's since the Pan Am billboard came out. I've been collecting various versions of inflight for the last 11 years and happy to say I'm quite happy with the inflight 747's despite to me small issues with engine shape and wing joint. Overall from a distance it doesn't bother me at all. Ive seen many pictures of the JC WINGS version and noticed both positive and negative. I love inflight sturdy appearing and gleaming landing gear with silver hubs and black tires really shows off well. Tampo printing on inflight overall is much better and easier on the eyes, its less vivid in color and thats fine with me. In another thread there was talk about misaligned windows on jc wings..the inflight 200 does not suffer that flaw thank goodness. The way the model stands on its gear is tall and straight. I noticed a bit of dragster lean on the jc wings version and those grey hubs just doesn't do it for me. So my slight biased opinion...overall I am still happy with my inflight 200's and will continue as a matter of consistency to collect them. I don't mind fixed landing gear not a big deal since I still display my models with gear.... on or off the stand provided and the stand and its base is all metal on the inflight 200, nice job. Sorry JC WINGS, inflight be you to me by 11 years...glad that inflight is releasing hibiscus malaysian and I have a good feeling that wunala qantas is not to far away. I have many inflight 747s on order like united and varig...they will go well with the rest of my collection...

Just to be fair...I am collecting many JC WINGS namely the A380, 777, 787, A319 and 767 versions, inflight 200 has my business in the 747/DC-10/L-1011 versions and gemini has my 727/MD80/DC-9 versions ( which are JC WINGS) so my collection is balanced quite well.

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Have the Inflight 200 Air-India 747-300, very nice model.
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Wow finally glad to see the noise calm over the inflight vs jc wings controversy 747's. Ive been a collector of the inflight 747's since the Pan Am billboard came out. I've been collecting various versions of inflight for the last 11 years and happy to say I'm quite happy with the inflight 747's despite to me small issues with engine shape and wing joint. Overall from a distance it doesn't bother me at all. Ive seen many pictures of the JC WINGS version and noticed both positive and negative. I love inflight sturdy appearing and gleaming landing gear with silver hubs and black tires really shows off well. Tampo printing on inflight overall is much better and easier on the eyes, its less vivid in color and thats fine with me. In another thread there was talk about misaligned windows on jc wings..the inflight 200 does not suffer that flaw thank goodness. The way the model stands on its gear is tall and straight. I noticed a bit of dragster lean on the jc wings version and those grey hubs just doesn't do it for me. So my slight biased opinion...overall I am still happy with my inflight 200's and will continue as a matter of consistency to collect them. I don't mind fixed landing gear not a big deal since I still display my models with gear.... on or off the stand provided and the stand and its base is all metal on the inflight 200, nice job. Sorry JC WINGS, inflight be you to me by 11 years...glad that inflight is releasing hibiscus malaysian and I have a good feeling that wunala qantas is not to far away. I have many inflight 747s on order like united and varig...they will go well with the rest of my collection...

Just to be fair...I am collecting many JC WINGS namely the A380, 777, 787, A319 and 767 versions, inflight 200 has my business in the 747/DC-10/L-1011 versions and gemini has my 727/MD80/DC-9 versions ( which are JC WINGS) so my collection is balanced quite well.
I prefer JCW, particulatly after their new 747 mold, but big deal. Who really cares at this point.

You know you are just stirring the pot and you are also instigating another hateful rant war from both sides of the IG/JCW battle lines. You know both sides will respond, and we will be off and rolling..............AGAIN!!!!!

Couldn't you just leave it alone? Or did you really not know what you were doing?

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What I like about the JC is the stand doesn't scratch the model and it comes with it. The IF 747 stand is also not very secure.
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I have a lot of IF200 747s and a couple of JCWs too. Even have a Hogan on order. For me its all about choice over flaws...never understood loyalty towards a certain brand myself, in any walk of life.
What 747s do you have? I might have to compile a list together myself!
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I prefer JCW, particulatly after their new 747 mold, but big deal. Who really cares at this point.

You know you are just stirring the pot and you are also instigating another hateful rant war from both sides of the IG/JCW battle lines. You know both sides will respond, and we will be off and rolling..............AGAIN!!!!!

Couldn't you just leave it alone? Or did you really not know what you were doing?
Wow I don't usually start many threads but appreciate your response...I respect everyone's choices...newer collectors will start with jc wings because they perceive it as better and I under stand the quality issues..their collections are not as extensive so they can easily criticize inflights...... I have collected for much longer when there wasn't jc wings 747 ...so both lines cater to different clientele and I believe there is another generation of collectors starting up...the colorful airline industry isn't going away soon and these models allow us to enjoy the industry in our own homes

I have so many colorful inflight 747 with more on order..I'll try to list what I have later...my favorite ones are united battleship that was inflight 200's first release and blue box inflight ana triton 747-400 with winglets...I also have blue box cathay pacific 747-300 polished stunning too. I also have virgin Atlantic 747-400 with the lady dragging the whole virgin flag over the whole vertical stabilizer...to me that was virgin ' best artwork on their aircraft.

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I like the tone of this thread so far. I hope it keeps a civil tone to the responses. Maybe I was a bit pre-mature.

I have both JC Wings and InFlight too. Most of my 747's are InFlight too, everything from a Battleship to the Virgin 'Birthday Girl. I also have the new JCW Tropical, that I like very much. I just wish the magnetic gears locked into place a little better. I also like the gray colored articulated landing gear bogies, and the painted wheel hubs of the JCW model. They look more realistic to me, butI think we all have some excellent choices in 747s right now from both manufacturers.

Most of my 777-300ERs are JC Wings. I really like the mold, but wish the engines were just a tiny bit larger. But that still will not keep me from buying more. The rest of my collection includes all different types.

I would like to see all manufacturers continue to upgrade their products. I think you really have a better collection if you have models from different manufacturers, but I do tend to buy all of a specific type of aircraft from the same one once I find a mold that I like. I think the 747 will be an exception to this rule. IF and JCW both produce nice 747 models, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. IF has been around for a long time for a reason; they make nice models. And JCW seems to be leading the pack in customer response and innovation.

I think we all can learn a lot about the different choices available and decide on which models we like and which ones we want to buy if the conversation remains civil, and does not degenerate into personal attacks and petty squabbling.

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Considering I have 41 Hasegawa 747-400s and growing, I'm settled on that being "my favourite". Only special schemes or the sort have I gone another route, like Herpa for ANZ "Lord of the Rings", and IF for Virgin "Birthday Girl"...
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Yeah, I was chastised for bringing out the ruler to prove the window line was not straight and I do not apologize for doing so as straight and proper placement of the window line is my pet peeve. Inaccurate engines, wing joints...they bother me less as I'm do not know which is correct and I never claim to be an expert in the field. But having the window line crooked or place to high that its near the top of the plane, that just sucks. I stopped buying IF200s 707 because their window lines were printed too high for several releases in a row. Looks like they are better now, but I'm only focusing on the 747s and 737s.

Whether it was used to fuel the flaming war or not, don't care. To be balanced, yes, IF200s SQ 747 Tropical port side upper deck was printed higher than the starboard side but the JC crew already pointed that out so no need for me to do so. People can say its not the first time IF200 has crooked printing, yada yada yada...but hey, lets consider who's factory they used to be in when these problems happened in the past. Now they're in a new factory so there is going to be a learning curve and hope its short.

At any rate, I hope IF200 and JC could take the criticism in stride and prevent the window lines from being printed crooked/too high in their future releases and address other issues brought out by other members....though not sure if JC will address the brow issue with their flight deck.

Personally, don't care who releases my 747s as long as they are released. I own 180 IF200s, Herpa, JC Wings with another 20 on order. Neither are perfect, though the two Herpa Premium I have are my favorite, and I'm sure glad to have them all.
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Some people like to talk about the passenger windows.
How about the cockpit windows? Sorry to repeat here again... but I really think it is a silly mistake. How many years has IF200 been making 747s ?




.......... JC Wings got the shape of the cockpit windows correct on their first 747.
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.......... JC Wings got the shape of the cockpit windows correct on their first 747.
That's actually incorrect. I've counted 20 BlueBox and 13 JC Wings 747 in my collection before they released the SQ 747 Tropicals on their own mould since Marcus confirmed BB is their brand, and not IF200s. While I haven't broken the old ones out of the boxes and check to be sure, you can pretty well count on their previous releases having the incorrect cockpit windows.

But yes, you are correct that for their first release on their own mould, JC Wings did get the flight deck window correct. Now, they can focus on the window line.
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I dont have many 747 models, only Air China, Tropical and ANA.
My 747 are Inflight, and from what I could see the cockpit windows are straight, except for the Tropical sadly.

Again, as collectors say, there is no perfect model, if a manufacturer has success in some areas of the model, they fail in other areas.
Not true?

I like to see a nice nose, and cockpit shape, ( when we go to airports and see an airplane, that is what we first see right!?) and...something many people dont care, but I do; landing gear.
I prefer to have fixed landing gear, if they are nice and strong. if they are magnetic, they have to be nice and strong too, thats my preference.

IF200 has old models with straight cockpit windows, and I will show my other two models with straight cockpit windows too, the Air China, and ANA.
So they did the Tropical wrong...yes, they did.
And that brings a lot of joy to only a few people here.
I hope those same people look back at other models from their own preferred manufacturer and see they have problems too.
Why calling other people stupid and idiot if they prefer different and they say it here? If you have a child, you dont ask if you prefer mom or dad, right? different love, but same apreciation.
That is not right, sorry to say, and soon or late you will find yourself alone and put aside, because your atitude is wrong.

I plan buying the JCGemini B747-8 too, when she comes to the market. I like the Sunrise colour livery, and I like NCA too, they can do in the 747 F model right?
I plan buying the JC ANA 787-9, to go with my old ANA 747-400, but prefer Boeing livery best.
There is so many options, and the collectors are willing to buy, "much fish in the sea" for everybody.

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An oldie but goodie: Inflight's Continental Airlines 747 in the red meatball livery.
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Also, is it true, because when I look at old IF 747 models, the lights in the wings, they are not painted like the new models, they seem to have holes and plastic to make like lenses?
I wish they didnt stop making these.
That Continental is so nice. My first classic 747 will be the orange ,red and blue stripes UNITED with the names of the stewardesses!I can wait ( saving money !)
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Also, is it true, because when I look at old IF 747 models, the lights in the wings, they are not painted like the new models, they seem to have holes and plastic to make like lenses?
I wish they didnt stop making these.
That Continental is so nice. My first classic 747 will be the orange ,red and blue stripes UNITED with the names of the stewardesses!I can wait ( saving money !)
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Yes, the older InFlight 747s, like the UA Battleship and KLM models had holes and plastic lenses for the landing lights in the wings. I wish they still made them that way also.
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Funny thread, this controversy keeps going and going and...

I've just checked every single one of my IF200 747s, and none have inaccurate cockpit windows. And, for those keeping track, that is 48 models!

So I am to surmise from this thread (and others) that IF messed up the cockpit windows on their version of the Tropical, and for that single mistake, they now make "junk" in the eyes of some DAC members.

Of course, that opinion is predicated on ignoring all the blatant errors on the JCW version of the Tropical, which is arguably equally error-ridden.

Anyway, carry on. I'm very happy with my IF200 Jumbos, and also with IF200's customer service, which has been stellar.
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IF200 747s don't get much better than this:

United Airlines 'Battleship'















Plus a couple of another stunner - it is an AV200 bird, but the mould is IFs...Virgin Atlantic:









Plus, a few of my favourite models 747s of my collection so far...by far:

China Airlines:



British Airways:



Delta Airlines - my favourite classic:



And SPs...SAA and QANTAS:



All of these models and more are just fantastic, really chuffed to own copies of them and, with the rest of my collection - 46 747s (40 IF200/IF200 mould) and rapidly growing, with another 6 on order (4 IF200s) including the magnificent looking Varig 744...my confidence in IF200 remains very high. Couldn't agree more with the statement by wu6fiend...my experience with IF200 is very good, they have provided excellent customer service to me. I was sent replacement parts for a couple of models which had them missing, including one model I purchased second hand, without question and for free. The finish on the models is excellent and the detailing on the paintwork is first class. Yes, there are some details such as PW engines which JC have improved on, but in my opinion, this is evolutionary and IF200 will no doubt improve their game over time and continue to receive my custom.

All in all, as I said before, I am a bit of a 747 fanatic, and look forward to years more epic releases from both IF, JC and other future manufacturers.

Lastly, watch this space for my upcoming photos of the Herpa ANA Marine Jumbo, which could take the spot of pride of my collection - even if she is a plastic model.
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The problem of IF is how they handle their tools/moulds and how they react to the voices from collectors.
Wrong wings(leading edge/flap track fairings)on 747s
Wrong engines on 747(PW and RR)
Fat rudder on 747s
Do they know these flaws? Yes, but any change after years? No, because they are the only 747 in 1/200.
They sold models higher than others but cut down their prices for 747s recently, why? Because they know they can no longer "monopoly" the market. That mean you over paid for years until JCW have the 747-400.
Do you know why they used silver hubs on 747s?
Do they know they have the wrong engines/wings on their A350?
Do they know they have the wrong wings on their 707?
Do they know they have the crooked wings/engines on their 737?
Do they know they have tons of flaws on their 727?
All answers are YES, it's just the matter of how much money they have to spend in order to make the modifications. No offense but the opinion like the OP just encouraged them to save but earn as much as they can.
On the other hand, we can see numerous of modifications have been done on GJ and JC moulds.
A330/MD-11/MD-80/F-27/C-17/A350/B787/B737-800/B777.
I am sure they will continue to upgrade their moulds to make collectors happy, so it's time for IF to think again before they release the ugly "New" T7.
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It is a beautiful model, this 747!
I look at these and I look at my Premiums, and again I am certain they ( IF) made their 747-400 and following 747s based on the Herpa Premium.
The same wing root, the same wing lines, even the engines with the lines.
And they even made the nose better, Premiums have a funny nose for a 747, inspite of being Premiums, sorry guys, its true.

So yes, with all the problems, and wrong this and that, these are still the best looking 747-400 in metal outhere,( I bought the Tropical too) but hey, lucky people, theres a choice in the market now, with problems as well, funny nose shape, nasty gears ( thats why they are magnetic so you can leave them back in the box)
So everyboy IS HAPPY AND HAVE A BIGGER OPTION NOW,...right?!
Wrong!!!!!

There are people dying of cancer, theres people living in this world with no food at the table, theres murder, animals suffering ( Big Peta supporter hier, achtung!) and so on....whats in a model?! Metal, plastic?!
Buy what you like and like what you buy....somebody said this before, not me!
Great phrase.

Guys, and you know who you are, leave it!!! Just leave it and respect others choices and posts on models of their choices! Stop being a pain, the voice of doom, whatever....leave it for good !!!!!

And now I think Im going to order my first metal model of a triple 7,....the new IF200 Air China 777-300ER.
Ive seen her and she is a big lady, very impressive.
And I dont think I will regret it.

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Before you buy the new IF China Airlines 777W, you may want to check the 2 other threads currently going for some pictures of the 'new' mold here

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...77w-if200.html
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http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...b-16718-a.html

If you have already see the pictures in those threads and still want the model, I hope you enjoy her. Like you said, it is all about choices.
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The problem of IF is how they handle their tools/moulds and how they react to the voices from collectors.
Wrong wings(leading edge/flap track fairings)on 747s
Wrong engines on 747(PW and RR)
Fat rudder on 747s
Do they know these flaws? Yes, but any change after years? No, because they are the only 747 in 1/200.
They sold models higher than others but cut down their prices for 747s recently, why? Because they know they can no longer "monopoly" the market. That mean you over paid for years until JCW have the 747-400.
Do you know why they used silver hubs on 747s?
Do they know they have the wrong engines/wings on their A350?
Do they know they have the wrong wings on their 707?
Do they know they have the crooked wings/engines on their 737?
Do they know they have tons of flaws on their 727?
All answers are YES, it's just the matter of how much money they have to spend in order to make the modifications. No offense but the opinion like the OP just encouraged them to save but earn as much as they can.
On the other hand, we can see numerous of modifications have been done on GJ and JC moulds.
A330/MD-11/MD-80/F-27/C-17/A350/B787/B737-800/B777.
I am sure they will continue to upgrade their moulds to make collectors happy, so it's time for IF to think again before they release the ugly "New" T7.

Right my friend...so buy what you like vote with your dollars...I myself have been quite happy with my inflight 747/L-1011/DC-10....can't say the same about their 727/737...so i don't have any...one mans trash is another man's treasure and you have to realize there are different generations of collectors...i don't collect vintage props wasn't my era...every one has their own dream collection...they are not going to throw it away to get the so called new and improved model...thats a waste of even more money...many inflight models are hard to get so to say no one is buying inflights and only buying jc wings is fooling themselves. I wouldn't be surprised in 10 more years that JC wings too will be obsolete so spare me the war mongering on this forum. There are things to like in all models from different times.
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They sold models higher than others but cut down their prices for 747s recently, why? Because they know they can no longer "monopoly" the market. That mean you over paid for years until JCW have the 747-400.
I don't think the prices for 1:200 747s has changed, even with JCW entering the market, if anything the prices have risen slightly, however ARD give 15% discounts on pre-orders from IF200 and JCW.
I doubt we'll see a perfect replica of a 747 in 1:200 scale, and I stick with what I stated before in that improvements are evolutionary, this of course being accelerated by competition in the market.
The same principles could be applied to any enterprise from car manufacturers to cell phones or computers, certainly not limited to makers of model aircraft.
I suspect that a prefect replica would command a hefty premium, but if someone releases one, some day, for a decent price, then hey, all the better for us, the customers right?

Anyway, thats my 2 cents worth...happy collecting, may your scale model dreams come true
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Personally I think the Herpa Premium models of the 744 are as good as it gets, just my view. Of course being an avid ANZ collector I'm blessed with having three schemes from this manufacturer in my hangar

I have a good number of IF200's 744 as well as a few SP's and love them.

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Personally I think the Herpa Premium models of the 744 are as good as it gets, just my view. Of course being an avid ANZ collector I'm blessed with having three schemes from this manufacturer in my hangar

I have a good number of IF200's 744 as well as a few SP's and love them.

But the HP will always reign supreme

I agree, mate. I've got the ANZ Frodo 747 and the details simply blow any competition out of the water...
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I don't think the prices for 1:200 747s has changed, even with JCW entering the market, if anything the prices have risen slightly, however ARD give 15% discounts on pre-orders from IF200 and JCW.
I doubt we'll see a perfect replica of a 747 in 1:200 scale, and I stick with what I stated before in that improvements are evolutionary, this of course being accelerated by competition in the market.
The same principles could be applied to any enterprise from car manufacturers to cell phones or computers, certainly not limited to makers of model aircraft.
I suspect that a prefect replica would command a hefty premium, but if someone releases one, some day, for a decent price, then hey, all the better for us, the customers right?

Anyway, thats my 2 cents worth...happy collecting, may your scale model dreams come true
1) IF200 has lowered the prices of their 747 already. Every retailer knows it.

2) A perfect replica will never appear with a decent price. It will appear with a "perfect" price Since only very few people are willing to pay that "perfect" price, according to market demand and supply, a "perfect" replica of 747 will never exist. After all, it is an industry. It's all about cost and benefit. For anything, if there is any room to make profit, there will be someone doing it already.

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I have over 950 models,but only one Inflight B747. The Seaboard World. The others I had,I traded to people who really wanted them.
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Personally I think the Herpa Premium models of the 744 are as good as it gets, just my view. Of course being an avid ANZ collector I'm blessed with having three schemes from this manufacturer in my hangar

I have a good number of IF200's 744 as well as a few SP's and love them.

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I have a HP Lufthansa 747 which I got for steal thanks to some minor damage to the undercarriage and wings which was easily fixed. It is amazing, and I would kill for those NZ 747s, especially the LOR specials...I did in fact see a Legolas example sell for a good price some weeks back but had already spent my budget! I will agree with you that they are then best replica 747s as plastic can be moulded and joined better and printed on easier too. But, like you, I am also very happy with my IF and JCW 747s.

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1) IF200 has lowered the prices of their 747 already. Every retailer knows it.
IF200 747s always cost around £99 from retailers in the UK over the past year, ok I've only been collecting since Feb last year but I haven't seen the price change in that time, up or down.
Most UK retailers seem to give a baseline price for JCW 747s as between £110 and £130...ok with membership discounts you can get them for less than £100 if you shop around. So if indeed the prices of 1:200 747s has dropped, this price fall is not reaching the customer, or not in the UK anyway?!
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I've only seen a significant drop on the KLM 747 and 777 from IF200 because JC is about to release the exact same models. Other than that, seems like prices are normal as usual.
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Hmmm, there is quite a big range of prices on the KLM new releases...the only one that looks to be cheaper is the IF 747-200 (in 70s delivery colours). All the 777s and 744s with the various special schemes are just as expensive as other releases.
The second hand value has plummeted though as the market has been completely flooded with KLM 744s, last year an original IF200 KLM / KLM Asia 744 commanded a price well north of £200...I believe they were the most expensive die cast 747-400s on the second hand market. Now of course, with the release of 2 more KLM 747s by IF200 over the autumn last year, this demand for the original birds decreased. Now with another 4 or 5 releases by IF and JCW, the original birds, and certainly the pair released last year by IF will not sell for much more than £70 ($100) on the second hand market.
I guess a few people who had the original KLM releases from a few years back must be reeling a little if they were holding onto them as investments, for everybody else, normal collectors, this can only be a good thing.

Another model that was noted as never being rereleased in the past were 747-400s of Cathay Pacific in the 80s livery with the union jack on the tail VR-HOT and B-HUI. I believe only about 60 of each were made on a special ARD release years ago and they were fetching ridiculous prices on the second hand market, I recall seeing one on sale for over $1000 on eBay, and now it is gone, so it either never sold or someone crazy bought it. Anyway, they are now to be released by JCW (with a proper polished belly to boot) and so a big must for any CX or 747 fan will finally become available for a good price.
In time I'm sure all my holy grail and most wanted 747s will eventually become available, and I'm willing to be patient, whether for second hand bargains or new releases.

If JCW do eventually move into the 747 classic market, I would gladly see SAA, TWA twin globe and Iran Air 70s SP rereleases, but if an IF200 bird appears on the second hand market for a good price, I'll jump on it!

All being said, all my IF200 747s, as well as my JCW, Herpa and Modell Edn 747s are all treasured, yes they all have their flaws, but I am happy with them all.
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