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Old 04-07-2015, 01:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,

New to this forum but have been a collector for over 20 years.

Just notice that IF will be doing China Airlines T7, and temping to preorder one (Estimated availability day: July 30th.....really)

InFlight die cast model China Airlines 777-36N/ER Reg# B-18052 InFlight/ALB ALB018 Scale 1:200 ezToys - Diecast Models and Collectibles

anyway, wondering how's the T7 mold from IF. I had the phoenix/eagle EVA Hello Kitty T7 the other day and was very disappointed about it. Had it returned immediately and lost the shipping cost for like 40 dollars.

Learn from mistake, gonna make sure the quality before preordering anything again.

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I have not seen photos yet, but make sure you stay around here on dac, sooner or later someone will show nice pictures and then you can decide.
you have been a collector for 20 years? I bet you have a nice collection!
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In Inflights previous 777-200 releases they used the JC Wings/Gemini mould. So they were very nice. They have never released a 777-300, so there is some speculation if they will use the Gemini/JC mould for these or have a new mould. Lets just hope they don't use the Phoenix mould. Its terrible!
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My collection has slow down a lot after I moved to US.
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Old 04-07-2015, 04:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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They said will use the new Inflight T7 mold, here are some previews from their FB

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They said will use the new Inflight T7 mold, here are some previews from their FB

Thanks Tonka, the mold doesn't look too good in the pictures. I will wait a bit before making a decision.
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......I am not sure why these manufacturers likes Phoenix have created these cheap and nasty subsidiary/substandard off-shoots like Eagle .... what are they trying to achieve? Phoenix generally make ok models of a good standard, especially with their B788's ......

....and what is this JFOX people? ....is that a cheap and nasty offshoot of JC Wings or BBOX? ...

....are these manufacturers trying to release 'low grade/cheap fodder' for the general population out there? .....I would definitely love it if someone 'tuned the rest of us members in' on the merits and pitfalls of ordering 1:200's from Eagle and JFOX ....

.....so far the prognosis is bad (reading from other threads on this site) re these models .....and without offending anyone who still like these models anyway (kudos to you) I would very much like to hear the pro-argument for Eagle and JFOX ......
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Thanks Tonka, the mold doesn't look too good in the pictures. I will wait a bit before making a decision.
This metal bird has all the looks of a sample.
Show me something from the production line if you can, anybody, and we'll see.
I'm curious to see this new mould too, but dont trust these images.
China Airlines would be a nice visual model if properly achieved!
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Thanks Tonka, the mold doesn't look too good in the pictures. I will wait a bit before making a decision.
I agree, the nose section seems off
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......I am not sure why these manufacturers likes Phoenix have created these cheap and nasty subsidiary/substandard off-shoots like Eagle .... what are they trying to achieve? Phoenix generally make ok models of a good standard, especially with their B788's ......

....and what is this JFOX people? ....is that a cheap and nasty offshoot of JC Wings or BBOX? ...

....are these manufacturers trying to release 'low grade/cheap fodder' for the general population out there? .....I would definitely love it if someone 'tuned the rest of us members in' on the merits and pitfalls of ordering 1:200's from Eagle and JFOX ....

.....so far the prognosis is bad (reading from other threads on this site) re these models .....and without offending anyone who still like these models anyway (kudos to you) I would very much like to hear the pro-argument for Eagle and JFOX ......
Not only these "new" models from these "new" brands are being substandard, the brand names are becoming confusing to collectors as well.

By the way, no need to buy the substandard IF200/ALB China Airlines 777-300ER. JC Wings is going to release one. Remember the Eva Hello Kitty 777 case ? Those who couldn't wait and bought the Eagle one regret very much and finally returned the model.

Don't become one of the nervous buyers again. There is no reason for JC Wings not to release a China Airlines 777-300ER, given that they had already released the A300 and A340 of China Airlines.

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This metal bird has all the looks of a sample.
Show me something from the production line if you can, anybody, and we'll see.
I'm curious to see this new mould too, but dont trust these images.
China Airlines would be a nice visual model if properly achieved!
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We can only hope for the best, I think the nose is too A350 like? I need more pictures to convince me to place a preorder as I don't wanna spend another 40 dollars on shipping (shipping 1/200 die-cast is not cheap).


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I agree, the nose section seems off
Agree very much.

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Not only these "new" models from these "new" brands are being substandard, the brand names are becoming confusing to collectors as well.

By the way, no need to buy the substandard IF200/ALB China Airlines 777-300ER. JC Wings is going to release one. Remember the Eva Hello Kitty 777 case ? Those who couldn't wait and bought the Eagle one regret very much and finally returned the model.
Yes, that's me! lol but i didn't get the JC verison at the end.
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Macaulien, just wait and beware of the voices of doom around here
That thing is a sample...but hey theres always plastic, more accurate, cheaper and lighter
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They said will use the new Inflight T7 mold, here are some previews from their FB

I agree the nose is wrong.

The engines and pylons are way off too. The 'GE-90" engines do not have the right GE-90 'hump' on the top and look too small. The pylon looks like it is directly hijacked from the previous 'generic' engine mold without modification.

The engines look like the Hogan engines, but at least the Hogan 777W has a good attempt at the right pylon, and it costs 1/3 of what this model will cost.

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I'd be looking for JC to do the China Airlines 777 also. Just hold out a bit.
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I'd be looking for JC to do the China Airlines 777 also. Just hold out a bit.
At this point, that is definitely my plan.

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......I am not sure why these manufacturers likes Phoenix have created these cheap and nasty subsidiary/substandard off-shoots like Eagle .... what are they trying to achieve? Phoenix generally make ok models of a good standard, especially with their B788's ......

....and what is this JFOX people? ....is that a cheap and nasty offshoot of JC Wings or BBOX? ...

JFox is the 'cheap and nasty' offshoot if InFlight.

.....I would definitely love it if someone 'tuned the rest of us members in' on the merits and pitfalls of ordering 1:200's from Eagle and JFOX ....

Some of us are trying to, but each time we do, the 'nitpicker haters' come crawling out of the woodwork and tell us how stupid we are being.

.....so far the prognosis is bad (reading from other threads on this site) re these models .....and without offending anyone who still like these models anyway (kudos to you) I would very much like to hear the pro-argument for Eagle and JFOX ......
I would too! Although the JFox Singapore Tropical wasn't a bad model to be honest. I just prefer the JCW version. But that is a purely personal preference.
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If you don't mind, please take a look at these previous threads:
http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...b-16718-a.html
http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ort-final.html
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Not only these "new" models from these "new" brands are being substandard, the brand names are becoming confusing to collectors as well.

By the way, no need to buy the substandard IF200/ALB China Airlines 777-300ER. JC Wings is going to release one. Remember the Eva Hello Kitty 777 case ? Those who couldn't wait and bought the Eagle one regret very much and finally returned the model.

Don't become one of the nervous buyers again. There is no reason for JC Wings not to release a China Airlines 777-300ER, given that they had already released the A300 and A340 of China Airlines.
In that case, is there a reason for JC Wings not to release 1:200 EVA Airways Boeing 777-300 ER B-16703(Ribbon) & B-16718? Will you kindly pass a message to Marcus boss to consider releasing the 1:200 EVA Airways Boeing 777-300 ER B-16703(Ribbon) & B-16718? Then we all don't have to worry about Albatros 777-300ER mould any more...what do you think?
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In that case, is there a reason for JC Wings not to release 1:200 EVA Airways Boeing 777-300 ER B-16703(Ribbon) & B-16718? Will you kindly pass a message to Marcus boss to consider releasing the 1:200 EVA Airways Boeing 777-300 ER B-16703(Ribbon) & B-16718? Then we all don't have to worry about Albatros 777-300ER mould any more...what do you think?
Thanks for your good suggestion. I also want JC Wings to release all the Eva 777-300ER. I flew B-16709 and B-16712 in the previous week. I love the Eva 777-300ERs ! I also don't want to see any ugly Eva 777 appearing.
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In that case, is there a reason for JC Wings not to release 1:200 EVA Airways Boeing 777-300 ER B-16703(Ribbon) & B-16718? Will you kindly pass a message to Marcus boss to consider releasing the 1:200 EVA Airways Boeing 777-300 ER B-16703(Ribbon) & B-16718? Then we all don't have to worry about Albatros 777-300ER mould any more...what do you think?
That's exactly what I thought! However, I will like to see B-16701 "Ribbon" instead of B-16703 since it was EVA AIR's first Boeing 777-300ER! B-16701 is currently "wearing" the Star Alliance uniform while B-16703 wears the cute Hello Kitty suit!
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Just look at the nose and cockpit window, how ridiculous!
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Just look at the nose and cockpit window, how ridiculous!
Looks like they stole the nose section of the GJ 762...
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Too bad they are not just using the Gemini/JC Mould. Ooh well.
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I sent message to them via FB and asked why don't use JCW and got their answer below:

"Hi, our team( Albatros) spent a lot of time designing this new high-accuracy Boeing 777-300ER mould,while the other mould( which means JC wings') had a lot of "flaws", so it's not under our consideration!"
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I sent message to them via FB and asked why don't use JCW and got their answer below:

"Hi, our team( Albatros) spent a lot of time designing this new high-accuracy Boeing 777-300ER mould,while the other mould( which means JC wings') had a lot of "flaws", so it's not under our consideration!"
So they are going to use an even more flawed mold. I think they are using the old AV200 777-300ER mold that just won't go away. You know the one with the skinny non-magnetic landing gear and the generic engines and pylons. Well, they changed the engines bu adding a hunk of metal to the top of the old generic engine mold, but I recognize those pylons anywhere: Directly off the old model.

Judge for yourself. Here are updated pictures from their home page.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1fwD...dfXc4/viewform
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I sent message to them via FB and asked why don't use JCW and got their answer below:

"Hi, our team( Albatros) spent a lot of time designing this new high-accuracy Boeing 777-300ER mould,while the other mould( which means JC wings') had a lot of "flaws", so it's not under our consideration!"
I sure hope they're not anticipating high sales for a terrible mould that they think is the best thing since sliced bread...
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"Hi, our team( Albatros) spent a lot of time designing this new high-accuracy Boeing 777-300ER mould,while the other mould( which means JC wings') had a lot of "flaws", so it's not under our consideration!"
I call B.S. on this statement. Particularly the 'new' and 'highly accurate' parts of that nonsense.

Looks like a HUGE step backwards if you ask me.
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I call B.S. on this statement. Particularly the 'new' and 'highly accurate' parts of that nonsense.

Looks like a HUGE step backwards if you ask me.
Completely agree! They have no idea they were "destroying" their own models already...
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