GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Is it me or are GJ200 models getting worse? The gear imprints have no details at all, the moulds are not changing, and they are not listening to customers!!

Example:
-Nose gear and door still oversized
-Trent engine still has wrong overall shape
-Gear sets should be set more apart (this shape: |--| vs |-| (when looking face on to aircraft)
https://www.aviation-center-berlin.d...38/iofzgLu.jpg

-Nose gear door and nose shape are terrible looking
-Wings seem to be way too high
https://www.aviation-center-berlin.d...12/ip1UNiM.jpg

-Please just send everyone a replacement engine cowling ring that looks decent, or a brand new tail engine to replace...
https://www.aviation-center-berlin.d...p8/iHS1NAK.jpg

Very disappointing lack of quality and care towards models :(

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

What's sad is that when Gemini first launched their 1:200 737s, the nose shape was spot on. One of the most accurate 1:200 noses of any aircraft, any mould, ever. This lasted for the first dozen releases or so, then sometime in 2009, strangely changed to a much less accurate shape. I still recall discussions on the matter, and laughably absurd claims from Gemini representatives that it was all an "optical illusion" from certain paint schemes, or simply a handful of flukes due to "overzealous polishing" during the finishing process. I still roll my eyes at that one, lol.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Exactly, same with the 757 mould, those were fantastic.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I wasn't aware the 757 mould has changed/degraded (although I'm not surprised, as I understand diecast moulds have a limited lifespan, and the 757 is one of GJ's oldest). I haven't bought a new-release 757 in a couple years though. Have any comparison pics?

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

That engine cowling ring is quote noticeable isn't it.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Check out the 2nd release of the Delta 757, it's ugly!
Sadly :mad: I was really hoping that MD-11 would be perfection, it means so much to me...

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Yeah and can they stop knocking the models about and chipping the wings and using too much glue on the engine pylon that it spills out over the engine

Oh and answer your customers emails would be a good start as well :rolleyes:

:)

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I finally realized that there was a significant difference in quality, but I can't find the first release anywhere now. I fear that I may have to get the second :sad:

As for the A330/A340.....ehhh that nose gear makes it look like a bit of a toy. Sad to say because there's so much potential for a nicely detailed A330/A340. I like Hogan's but it lacks some details and Herpa's current version......well it's really bad in my opinion.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Also look at the wings on this Alaska 737-800. Seems like they wanted to show wing flex....
Attachment 96381

Attachment 96382

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Those 737 wings look ridiculous. So much for picking up that Alaska one.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I soo agree with you guys..but I guess jc and Gemini make the best ones..Looks like Inflight is really trying to go cheap!!!..If it ain't made in Germany it will never look as the Herpa Premium....!!!

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

You know what's funny? All the Gemini Jets, JC Wings and IF200 models are made in the same factory by the same workers - JC's factory.

Funny that since Gemini and IF200 moved their production to this location the quality has dropped...

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

:pZinc-rot.:p

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I agree on the 737 - nose is too "aerodynamic" now... never mind that wing flex.

The newer 757s seem to have a pointier nose and those wheel hubs...

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

i agree with all of you , and if any body has paid attention to one thing which is very important and some time we let it go or dont even notice is that the ''cockpit windows positioning''.If you see them from front closely you will notice that from one side they are upside and from other side they are downside .i am unable to understand that why cant they even make their cockpit windows straight and align enough . This issue needs an attention too .Regards !

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

This is a sanity check, you have crossed the line & likely need to re evaluate the relationship you have w/ the models. This meaning so much to you can not be healthy.... i don't even know what an engine cowling ring is!

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Man I'm so disappointed about the Air Canada A330 :( I haven't received mine yet but the release photo from GJ made it look really really nice... Definitely happy I didn't order the Westjet, it looks terrible.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

The picture of the AC330 is a picture of the 1/400 scale model.
It hasn't been updated on the site where the pictures were posted from as yet.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

um no the ac 330 is a 1:200 on the picture :)

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

JCWings is better than Gemini imo, same moulds and stuff but more care.


I have a couple of models with crooked windows, it bugs me but I can't fix it...
I feel like I should cancel my pre-order on the 737, I really want a WJ 737, but with such wings, dunno.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

what people havent realized yet is that GEMINIJETS=JCWINGS !
And people like JCs releases, so why complaining about these "new" GJ releases!?
Optical illusion my hat, those noses look awful !!!!
Crappy landing gears, too...instead of improving, they are just going the
opposite way...its been discussed before.
Having said that, Mr.Klein, whn are you going to release more of those mighty fine Constellations, and Electras...so much more stuff to do, we are here waiting, please ;)
oh well.
rc

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I think it is not all about GJ's quality, it is about the product is "Made in China". Please tell me when I get it wrong. Thanks!

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

All the previous releases were also "made in China" and you have some very fine models !
gradually, though, they seem to have lost quality and details...:(

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Well the A330 looks good IMO, probably that picture is not the best

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

The manufacturers add features like moving wheels and spinning fan blades as that is what is perceived to be wanted by the customer.

However I think that this in part leads to the loss of detail in these parts, as they have to be made somewhat more simplistic to allow for these features. Similar with the removable gear sets etc.

It would be good however if you could have the option of a more detailed set of wheels and undercarriage without these features, even maybe more detailed engines out of cast resin etc.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

A380 nose gear seems a bit funny IMO.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

if it is not made in China, but made in Germany. The price will go double as it is.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

As we all know that Herpa Premium and Lufthansa Modell Edition series is the most expensive model in 1:200 scale, however, it sold out for a long time ago and still are the most sought after model since it has already been released for more than decades.
For serious collector quality is everything, however,chinese worker ruin the GJ design...

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Found these images online of the new WestJet 737-700WL. What's everyone's views on the wings now you can see it clearer?

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Still way too high, but I will live with it.
More pics:
GeminiJets G2WJA233 - 737-700 Diecast Model, WestJet Airlines, C-GWJT: The Flying Mule

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I agree. Thanks for the link to the other pics. Am I right in thinking that the front gear turns? Or did I dream that?



----

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Those wings look AWFUL!! Plus, the lighter blue used on the logo and tail is completely wrong. Should be more of a turquoise/teal colour:

https://planefinder.net/images/5983902:Photo:751263.jpg

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Wings aside...I think it is just the photos that i posted that makes the colour look off. The colour looks slightly better on Jan's link here: GeminiJets G2WJA233 - 737-700 Diecast Model, WestJet Airlines, C-GWJT: The Flying Mule


---

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

According to this site Boeing 737 Advanced Blended Winglets the height from the ground to the top of the winglet should be 21ft 1in. How does this compare with the 737-700 mould?

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

JC Wings too. Went to look at a gorgeous Varig MD-11 the other day that we wanted only to have the engine fall off in our hand. We did not purchase it after that

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

The Flying Mule pics don't look quite right either. It should have more of a greenish-hue in the tail. The biggest offence is definitely the wing angle though.

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../2/2113243.jpg

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../9/2473968.jpg

I like that they chose C-GWJT. The original C-GWJT, a B737-200, was donated to BCIT at the end of its service career:

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/2186457.jpg

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I wish there was a way to yank out the wings on the WestJet 737 and glue them back in properly. I've seen guys on here do so with success.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Mine will arrive soon and I am interested to see how bad they really are and whether it is easy enough to adjust them. I will report back with pics once I have her :)

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

The wings bend easily. If you apply the right amount of pressure, you can angle them however you want. Done it with many gj200 models.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Could the quality of GJ be getting worse since moving to the JC factory because JC want the GJ buisness? Maybe GJ are too busy sending emails to airlines to notice there product decline

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I've tried but I don't want to break or damage the model.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

I was able to get wings detached and used an Exacto knife to get excess glue off. It looks way better now! But I have to admit it was a risk to pry the wings off; but I was lucky.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Sorry, I can't get the photo to show on here

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Sorry, I can't get the photos to show on here

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

My WJ 737-700WL landed this morning. Here are some pics I took to show off the wonderful wings ;) Apart from that, a beautiful model!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/309142...7648744119821/









-----

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

My left wing was much higher than the right one. I had to fix that and it looks fine now.
Apart from that, the nose gear is super loose, and the gear bay doors stick out a bit, making that nose section kinda of ugly.

Re: GJ200 Please Upgrade Quality!!
 

Glad you managed to fix it okay. My nose gear seems quite firmly stuck in but the turning wheel is a bit flimsy. Will display it in the cabinet with turning wheel I think anyway.

Happy overall though :)

Next mission....got to hunt down the GJ's WJ 737-800WL (C-GZWS)


---