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Old 05-23-2014, 11:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well Guy's, Picked this beauty up this morning made by Phoenix, the latest B787-8 in the "2010's" colours of Norwegian Air Shuttle reg EI-LNA, named "Sonja Henie", I really like this livery, and it also come's with a new metal chrome stand, witch makes the model even better quite solid and you have to screw it together, even more interesting for me, is I saw this aircraft land at Gatwick, on wednesday just gone.


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Old 05-23-2014, 01:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Phoenix's best effort in this scale.
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Old 05-23-2014, 01:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Really a beautiful model ! Great mould and details, and very nice livery. I like it very much.
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I really like the look of this model and I can't wait to get one
Is it more or does the length of the B787 make the middle of the plane look really bare?
I think it needs like a red stripe to add to the colour scheme or something along those lines
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Nice and colourful, but the red part in the front makes it look like a circumcised penis.
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ALPA TO U.S. GOVERNMENT - REJECT NORWEGIAN AIR INTERNATIONAL's EVASIVE SCHEME


Foreign Company Seeks to Exploit Legal and Regulatory Loopholes to Evade its National Laws and Gain Economic Advantage over U.S. Airlines

The Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l (ALPA) today called for the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) to immediately reject Norwegian Air International’s (NAI) foreign air carrier permit application because the company appears to be attempting to evade its national laws and regulations to compete unfairly against U.S. airlines and their employees. The call came in an answer that ALPA filed in response to NAI’s application.

“Norwegian Air International was clearly designed to attempt to dodge laws and regulations, starting a race to the bottom on labor and working conditions,” said Capt. Lee Moak, ALPA’s president. “If successful, the company would gain a serious and unfair economic advantage over U.S. airlines in the competition for the business of international passengers flying to and from the United States. This exploitation of the laws intended to prevent labor law shopping cannot be allowed to stand.”

While Norwegian citizens control NAI, which is a subsidiary of Norwegian Air Shuttle (NAS), the company uses aircraft registered in Ireland and has applied for an air operator certificate from that country. It appears that its flight crews will work under individual employment contracts that are governed by Singapore law and that have wages and working conditions substantially inferior to those of NAS’s Norway-based pilots.

“If NAS is permitted to pick and choose the countries in which it establishes its subsidiaries and employs its flight crews, U.S. carriers will be put at a severe competitive disadvantage because the United States has one set of laws and regulations for all of its airlines,” said Capt. Moak. “The U.S.-EU air services agreement was never intended to allow this type of scheme, which games the system for competitive economic advantages.”

ALPA maintains that the NAI scheme raises the specter of the “flag of convenience” business practice that undermined the U.S. maritime industry by allowing a vessel to be registered in a country different from its ownership and apply the country of registry’s laws to its operations. The practice precipitated the decline of the industry and the loss of tens of thousands of U.S. maritime jobs as companies flew the flag of countries with the weakest labor and tax laws and regulations.

Moak noted a quote by the AFL-CIO’s Transportation Trades Department in an opinion piece published today by Aviation Daily: “We must reject business models premised on scouring the globe for cheap labor no matter the consequences, and not pretend this is somehow acceptable competitive behavior.”

“The NAI scheme must be immediately and unequivocally rejected,” said Moak. “The DOT must not permit U.S. airlines and their employees to face an unfair competitive disadvantage from this runaway shop and swiftly dismiss NAI’s air carrier permit application.”

Moak also called on the Irish government to reject NAI’s attempt to register the aircraft in Ireland. “Ireland should not allow itself to be complicit in NAI’s avoidance scheme,” he concluded.

Founded in 1931, ALPA is the world’s largest pilot union, representing nearly 50,000 pilots at 32 airlines in the United States and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at Air Line Pilots Association, International.
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Very interesting but totally irrelevant to this thread.
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Very interesting but totally irrelevant to this thread.
Oh sure, and post #5 with penis comments is relevant?

I'm fairly certain most collectors are unaware that Norwegian Air Shuttle uses aircraft registered in Ireland and has applied for an Air Operator's certificate from that country. It will use pilot's under individual contracts governed by Singapore law. Their working conditions and pay are substantially inferior to those of Norwegian based NAS pilots.

The point is Norwegian Air Shuttle is attempting the "Maritimization" of the Air Industry much as you have "Flags of Convenience" today in the Shipping Industry. This undermined the U.S. maritime industry by allowing a vessel to be registered in a country different from its ownership and apply the country of registry’s laws to its operations. The practice precipitated the decline of the industry and the loss of tens of thousands of U.S. maritime jobs as companies flew the flag of countries with the weakest labor and tax laws and regulations.

If you support shipping highly skilled N. American Aviation jobs overseas - then by all means purchase the model. But collectors should at least be aware of the issues involved.

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Nice and colourful, but the red part in the front makes it look like a circumcised penis.
Ha! I think I read somewhere that Sonja Heine obsessed with the topic.

All jokes aside, it is a very nice model.. I thought about buying one but they're now sold out at my favorite retailers.
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Nice and colourful, but the red part in the front makes it look like a circumcised penis.


On a serious note, I wonder why PHX make the cowling not straight, towards the bottom it gets narrower. The thing that bothers me with PHX is the low quality printing
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Old 05-23-2014, 08:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Although I understand the sentiment by ACpilot, extending it to models takes it beyond the aim of this forum, no? Otherwise based on those criteria, no one should collect any WWII Luftwaffe or Japanese aircraft models given what they represent (or allied aircraft if you're on the other side)...



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If you support shipping highly skilled N. American Aviation jobs overseas - then by all means purchase the model. But collectors should at least be aware of the issues involved.
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Old 05-24-2014, 04:53 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Completely agree Culture. I totally sympathize with the ideological points regarding Norwegian, but I don't think extending it to this forum of collecting model aircraft is really appropriate. If ACPilot doesn't want to purchase the model for those reasons, then I completely understand and respect his reasoning. However shaming other people into not buying it is a little overboard, especially considering the audience for this forum is multi-national.
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Old 05-24-2014, 04:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I should add, that since my genealogical heritage is Norwegian, I really want to collect the Norwegian airlines planes,but there is something about that red "dipped" nose I just can't get past. Not my style.
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I should add, that since my genealogical heritage is Norwegian, I want to collect the Norwegian airlines planes,but there is something about that red "dipped" nose I just can't get past. Not my style.

Nothing "Norwegian" about this Airline. That is the point of my post - to inform collectors what they may be collecting.

No Norwegian Registered Aircraft.

No Norwegian Operating Certificate.

No Norwegian Pilots.

No Norwegian Flight Attendants.

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Foreign Company Seeks to Exploit Legal and Regulatory Loopholes to Evade its National Laws and Gain Economic Advantage over U.S. Airlines

It appears that its flight crews will work under individual employment contracts that are governed by Singapore law and that have wages and working conditions substantially inferior to those of NAS’s Norway-based pilots.
..., which games the system for competitive economic advantages.”
Isn't that the objective of Capitalism? To gain an advantage over others and make profit for shareholders?
Some clever 'out of the box' thinking going on here.

Maybe the feeling was that in the new economic conditions people might be willing to work under different conditions to at least have an income that be without any job at all as they would not be employable otherwise. Another great capitalistic feature.

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Nothing "Norwegian" about this Airline. That is the point of my post - to inform collectors what they may be collecting.

No Norwegian Pilots.

No Norwegian Flight Attendants.
The above is not neccesarily corect. There could be Norwegian Pilots and Flight Attendants, they would just not be working under Norwegian law, but SIngapore law and their conditions of service would not be the same as their counterparts working from Norway itself.

At least the colour scheme is interesting and not so plain white as a lot of others. I am also quite certain that not buying the models would not harm the carrier in anyw ay, it would rather harm the people who makes a living from producing and selling models. And that is what the forum is about?
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I believe that Norwegian crew feature on the recently released Just Planes Norwegian Dreamliner DVD.
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Didn't think this would sell out so fast, and I missed my opportunity to pick one up. Too bad. I'll be on the lookout on ebay I guess for this bird! Happy to see someone else likes it! This is the only 787 to fly to my local airport so I'll be needing this.
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Isn't that the objective of Capitalism? To gain an advantage over others and make profit for shareholders?
Some clever 'out of the box' thinking going on here.

Maybe the feeling was that in the new economic conditions people might be willing to work under different conditions to at least have an income that be without any job at all as they would not be employable otherwise. Another great capitalistic feature.
I am a believer in a Capitalist Free Market as well.

Except - I believe in one with a regulatory authority to keep everyone honest - especially in an Industry that is so safety oriented and dependent.

Unfettered Capitalism is what nearly lead to the collapse of our entire economic system in 2008. Banks sold Mortgages as investments on Wall Street without honestly declaring them as questionable investments. Banks lent out Mortgages to people without an ability to pay them. Regulation could have prevented all that.

Having airlines "Flying Flags of Convenience" being registered in countries with the lowest standards of safety and regulatory requirements will ultimately lead to a decline in safety standards and a loss of high tech jobs with good pay.

Besides, the shareholders will only be rewarded if a company takes care of its customers and employees. The employees will offer a safe and professional service and customers will respond by purchasing more product - which ultimately rewards the shareholders.


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