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Old 11-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #1
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Default A340-300 1/200 mold comparison: Herpa Wings and Gemini Jets (Lufthansa)

Dear all,

I thought some of you may find a comparison of A343 molds interesting. Not sure if someone has done it before - if so, I apologize.

Herpa 550352 D-AIGH "Koblenz"




Gemini G2DLH368 D-AIFC "Gander/Halifax"




Herpa left, Gemini right




Herpa bottom, Gemini top




Herpa right, Gemini left



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Excellent comparison shots, though posting them here as large photos where both are in the same frame, would have made it nice

So it seems the Gemini is taller than the Herpa.



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Excellent comparison shots, though posting them here as large photos where both are in the same frame, would have made it nice

So it seems the Gemini is taller than the Herpa.

Thanks. Yes, the Gemini is quite a bit taller.

As to your improvement suggestion I will try that next time when I post a comparison.
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Nice comparison pictures Ben, which one is more accurate if we talk about height? Herpa or GJ?

I bought the Koblenz A434 at $20usd just a month after the release of the GJ version and honestly I am happy with it. Instead, I decided to buy the GJ A380 as it was missing my LH fleet.

Greetings!!!

PS: does your Herpa dance because the center main landing gear is a little big larger?
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:36 PM   #5
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Great comparison, Ben!! I think both moulds a very similiar. One big difference I've seen is the wing root that looks way more accurate on the Gemini. The old Herpa/Hogan A346 mould looks like the Gemini A343 in this area.)

If you pimp the (or should I better say my ) Herpa with the Hogan landig gear it will look great next to the Gemini.

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I have yet to purchase a 1/200 GJ A340. For those that have it, are the issues with the engine shape and gear size truly that noticeable?
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I already wrote something about the ground clearances of the A 340-300.

I too have the D-AIGH made by Herpa, it was the first A 340 available and I remember that I was very pleased to have it, waiting for the AF version which came later thanks to Socatec.
According to the Herpa data base, this model is now discontinued.

Depending on the weight of the aicraft and the fuel quantity it has in its wings, the wing tip of the real aircraft is between 6,35m and 5,94 m above the ground.
That makes a maximum of 32 mm in our favourite scale.
Just look at the picture, the position of the Herpa model above the "ground" is nice.

I'm afraid that the Gemini landing gear is a bit oversized.

So, even if the Gemini models are more detailed, I am tempted to say that I prefer Herpa and Hogan products.

And if we go further, my conclusion could be that the Gemini model with "another landing gear set" could be near perfect and much more accurate.

I'm not sure I'll buy the AF version made by Gemini ...

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Ben, do you think that the landing gear can be removed and replaced by another one ?
I'm sure you see what I mean ...

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Jean Pierre, do you mean replacing just axle and wheels or the whole landing gear structure? For the latter I have no idea. The former: It looks like it might be possible to bend open the structure holding the axles. But I would be afraid of breaking it off. For changing axle and wheel, the Herpa - like LH456 said - is a lot easier.

Maybe these pictures help:

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Ben, I only have the Herpa model, so it is difficult for me to compare the two landing gears, but I think the Gemini model is too high on its legs.

My idea was a complete replacement.
The set that could be used is identical to the Herpa model.
Is it compatible with Gemini ?
I don't know, it shouldn't be much different, the replacement set being plastic, it should be possible to adjust it to the existing wheel wells.

The Gemini centerline landing gear looks a bit more detailed.
The two forward doors which are normally closed when the landing gear is down and locked have some kind of slots which are exagerated on the Gemini model.
This detail doesn't exist on Herpa.
I attach an Airbus document showing the centerline landing gear.

My opinion is that the struts of the four landing gears are a bit too long.

The weight of the Gemini model cannot be ignored, is it aluminium alloy or zamak alloy ?
The gear replacement is plastic ...

I now tend to be reluctant to give advice that could be dangerous for a model.
Can the present landing gear be removed easily ?
I don't know, in any case the replacement if decided, shouldn't be destructive, using the most appropriate tools like the one on the picture is essential.
It is a dentist tool.

If one of us is tempted by the conversion, BE CAREFUL.
For the time being, I have not decided yet if I'll buy the Gemini (or JC Wings) AF version, but if I do it, I'll consider this change.

Jean Pierre.

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I agree with you regarding the weight, Jean Pierre (BTW, not Jean-Pierre?). I don't know what the model is made of, but it is rather heavy. And I am happy enough with it to not feel an urge to swap gear... :-)
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Yes, Jean-Pierre but I always forget the hyphen ...

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i've noticed with my GJ version, the whole plane is angled down, the front end is at a lower level than the back end. Is this normal?
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i've noticed with my GJ version, the whole plane is angled down, the front end is at a lower level than the back end. Is this normal?
That is quite normal.

On the real aircraft the ground clearances at doors 1 and 4 are very different.
Depending on the aircraft weight and the position of the center of gravity, the difference can reach 1 meter.

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hi fellow collectors

My 1:200 Herpa A340 nose gear wheels are missing. Where can I find a spare wheel?

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GJ one is by aluminium.
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Interesting discussion. I too think that the only fault of the gj/jc A340 is that it sits to high on its gears. Have a few hg and herpa A340's and the difference is clearly visable like in the pics above. Haven't compared the A330 molds though, same problem??
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hi fellow collectors

My 1:200 Herpa A340 nose gear wheels are missing. Where can I find a spare wheel?

Thanks in advance,

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You can buy Hogan replacement gear (which fit Herpa) at a lot of model retailers and eBay.

Here are some links:
5286 A340 200 300 Wheel Landing Gear Set w Rubber Tires Hogan Wings 1 200 | eBay
5309 A340 500 600 Wheel Landing Gear Set w Rubber Tires Hogan Wings 1 200 | eBay
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Thanks Connor for the advice!


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