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Old 10-07-2013, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just bought a Hogan Qantas A330 but it does not have any reg. on it. The same goes with Quatar A340 too. Omission error or actual a/c does not have them? DP
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Airlines specifically specify no registration..several reasons why...
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Just in case one of the planes are written off or crashes in the future? (touchwood)
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Airlines specifically specify no registration..several reasons why...
But yet on my Qantas Hogan A300-B4, it has registration. DP
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Just in case one of the planes are written off or crashes in the future? (touchwood)
Yes..........
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I have a Hogan 777-300 TAM (Brazilian) without registration.
Maybe they have not got a license from the airline.
I thought of putting decals, but I think the end result
will not be equal to painting ...
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So what happens if a particular registration get written off? DP
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The Qantas a330 model by Hogan is a 300 series in new colours, which haven't/hadn't at the time of manufacture been applied to this series of aircraft, so I believe that's why. All the other Hogan Qantas aircraft that I have in my collection have registrations.

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Old 10-07-2013, 01:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have a Hogan 777-300 TAM (Brazilian) without registration.
Maybe they have not got a license from the airline.
I thought of putting decals, but I think the end result
will not be equal to painting ...
Try dry decals, it is much better than usual decals.

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Old 10-07-2013, 02:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Try dry decals, it is much better than usual decals.

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I wouldn't bother because in order for the decals to adhere, you need to have a glossy surface then apply another gloss coat after application of decals to hide the film. Unless this is a kit built, you cannot achieve a good result on premade models. DP
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Today for some reasons, registration is missing on some models.
I am not sure it has something to do with what could happen to the real aircraft wearing this registration.

We could think it is just to make things more simple and cheaper, or the manufacturer has no access (?) to this information.

In the past, desk models made for Air France had deliberately wrong registrations.
It had to do with some kind of superstition.

A good example of what I am saying is the registration worn by the Caravelle shown in the thread written by Upkeep : Upkeep's small 1:200 scale display (s), post 29 from Rui.

You see a Caravelle registered F-BEHL, it is pure fiction.

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I wouldn't bother because in order for the decals to adhere, you need to have a glossy surface then apply another gloss coat after application of decals to hide the film. Unless this is a kit built, you cannot achieve a good result on premade models. DP
I think you could try dry decals.
Here is what was made forty five years ago.
In those days, techniques were very basic and primitive, we only had paint and brushes.
No clear coat, no spray.

There is no clear coat on this model to protect the dry decals, they are still there and in my opinion the result is quite good.

The scale was 1:100.

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Old 10-09-2013, 08:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Sometimes we see also wrong registration.
An example is the Hogan KLM 777-200 with the reistration PH-BQJ.
KLM never use this registration.

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Well ALL real civil aircraft MUST carry registration by law, military aircraft must carry serial number (the last numbers normally) or other type of identification,you will never see a real active aircraft with out any identification by law,in the model world is up to different reasons.

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I think you could try dry decals.
Here is what was made forty five years ago.
In those days, techniques were very basic and primitive, we only had paint and brushes.
No clear coat, no spray.
There is no clear coat on this model to protect the dry decals, they are still there and in my opinion the result is quite good.
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I strongly agree. Dry decals/transfers are the way to go. They are trickier to apply, but the results are much better that tradidional decals. Most dry transfers do not have the clear film around the letter/number to yellow, and as was stated, and the dry transfers do just fine without a clear overcoat.

I usually mount the transfers on a decal side up on a piece of tape to get the transfers alligned first and then mount the tape on the model to maintain the allignment of the numbers/letters while burnishing them(rubbing them with a hard object such ad the edge of a coim or xacto handle) to transfer the images. After a few hours the images are about as permanent as it gets, yet can be removed easily with a piece of tape.
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There are a few Hogan models which do not have regs and there are 2 reasons for this: 1. The airline requested no reg be applied and 2. The model at the time it was manufactured was depicting an a/c not yet delivered to the airline and this was mostly in the case of the Boeing corporate models i.e. TAAG, Garuda, Aeroflot, Ethiopian, PIA, SIA and Qatar 777's and some 747-8's and many 787's. Boeing simply provided the artwork the plane was going to be delivered in but at the time no reg was decided. The same practice was at Pacmin with the larger 1:100 scale models.



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