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Old 11-18-2012, 05:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

I have a few models that came without stands but I prefer to display them on a stand. I guess I can use after-market Inflight 200 stands for my Aviation 200 Boeing 707 and JC Wings 787, 727 and L1011.

Some other, mainly JC Wings models, have a stand hole of the same dimensions as for my Gemini 200 CRJ-900 (the flimsy tripod stand). Does anyone know where to get stands for that kind of hole? Even if I could get the ones like the one for my CRJ-900, they would probably not be strong enough to support any models heavier than the CRJ. And even about that one I am pretty worried.

So, any hint for more stable replacement would be appreciated.

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The connector for the tripod stand is the flimsy bit, i know someone replaced it with a peice of tubular metal with some holes drilled in it and it looked good
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Thanks for the hint, but I'm not that much of a craftsman. I think someone mentioned that 1/250 Gemini stands with "Star Trek badge" base might fit. Any confirmations? Are they 2mm or 4 mm?
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Thanks for the hint, but I'm not that much of a craftsman. I think someone mentioned that 1/250 Gemini stands with "Star Trek badge" base might fit. Any confirmations? Are they 2mm or 4 mm?
That was me.

For the Gemini250 stand I was speaking of, the attaching peg is 4mm. Full post with images [ HERE ].
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Thanks Upkeep, always greatly appreciated! Hm, it's hard to judge from the pictures and I do not have a caliper at hand, but that looks somewhat bigger than my Gemini stand on the SAS CRJ-900.

I also have a Gemini 200 B757 (Finnair) and that one has a slightly bigger stand hole than the CRJ-900. The B757 has an also somewhat badge-shaped stand base. On the stand, like on yours, it says "Gemini 250". But I'd say the stand arm looks a little longer than the stand you show - could be an illusion though.

My suspicion is that they may have changed the stand hole size on the CRJs at some point and that the 4 mm stand may be too large. Guess I'll have to get my hands on a caliper.
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Thanks Upkeep, always greatly appreciated! Hm, it's hard to judge from the pictures and I do not have a caliper at hand, but that looks somewhat bigger than my Gemini stand on the SAS CRJ-900.
Welcome to the 'black art of stands'.

The stand in my photos was Gemini standard for 1:200 757's, 737's, A320's, etc. That is where both of mine came from.

My CRJ-900 had to be custom fitted with an internal plug put in place and drilled to fit the arm of the stand. I can't remember what was originally in that hole -- possibly a rubber plug whose hole was far to small? Anyhow, my JCW Air France Fokker F.70 fits nicely out of the box as does my Gemini Air France A320, AC Jazz Dash 8, and WestJet 737.

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I also have a Gemini 200 B757 (Finnair) and that one has a slightly bigger stand hole than the CRJ-900. The B757 has an also somewhat badge-shaped stand base. On the stand, like on yours, it says "Gemini 250". But I'd say the stand arm looks a little longer than the stand you show - could be an illusion though.
I cut the arm down in height on one mine down a few millimeters, but only a few.

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My suspicion is that they may have changed the stand hole size on the CRJs at some point and that the 4 mm stand may be too large. Guess I'll have to get my hands on a caliper.
Possible.

Like I said, I had to do a bit of a custom fit for my Delta CRJ-900, but the fitting was a plug under the model to accommodate the stand arm.

In my previous post I mentioned the stand arm was 4mm. Well, I must have mis-measured a wee, as after just pulling out my calipers, it is really only 3mm. Oops.

The real issue here is, aside from that 'tinker-toy' metal stick stand in-packed with the smaller Gemini models, there really isn't much else to use, and unless one has bought a number of Gemini's earlier models there really aren't any good and reliable options out there.

To add insult to injury, going to Gemini's site doesn't help either. They list a 1:250 'chrome' stand (below), but I doubt the connection would be usable for 1:200.



I share your frustration, nurunet. Sometimes it drives me nuttz.
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Welcome to the 'black art of stands'.
Black art indeed! :-(

My CRJ-900 tripod stand cracked (the plastic tube where you insert the legs of the tripod) when I assembled it. Even if I could acquire more of those stands, there's no way my L-1011 would survive on one of those. The stand would break and my beautiful Tristar would take a nose dive.

So, standing display it is for the moment. Or Inflight 200 stands for some of the bigger models, but I read somewhere that they can potentially scratch the paint.
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Black art indeed! :-(

My CRJ-900 tripod stand cracked (the plastic tube where you insert the legs of the tripod) when I assembled it. Even if I could acquire more of those stands, there's no way my L-1011 would survive on one of those. The stand would break and my beautiful Tristar would take a nose dive.

So, standing display it is for the moment. Or Inflight 200 stands for some of the bigger models, but I read somewhere that they can potentially scratch the paint.
This will fix your tripod stand.
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Black art indeed! :-(
Yes, regrettably this 1:200 world is not very well served by 3rd party stands, and getting decent ones from the manufacturers seems to be impossible. I have 3 of those Gemini250 'Star Trek' shaped base ones and I covet them for my various Gemini/JCW models (and anything else I have modded to fit them like my Hogan Caravelle).

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My CRJ-900 tripod stand cracked (the plastic tube where you insert the legs of the tripod) when I assembled it. Even if I could acquire more of those stands, there's no way my L-1011 would survive on one of those. The stand would break and my beautiful Tristar would take a nose dive.

So, standing display it is for the moment. Or Inflight 200 stands for some of the bigger models, but I read somewhere that they can potentially scratch the paint.
Yes . . . do not attempt to put a treasured L-1011 on one of those flimsy Gemini stands unless you like to live dangerously -- and it is also true about the InFlight stands. I think it was Mr. Agent X20 who revealed their nasty trait. One has to be extraordinarily careful not to scratch the paint at the contact points when placing the model into the attaching clip and when removing. It's like that clip has razor teeth or something.

To be safe, it is best they sit on their landing gear for the time being, I'm afraid.
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To be safe, it is best they sit on their landing gear for the time being, I'm afraid.
Not what I wanted to hear. But when would one ever want to hear the voice of reason... :-)

Well, I'll have to find a nice way to display them standing. But aircraft are made to fly!
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Not what I wanted to hear. But when would one ever want to hear the voice of reason... :-)

Well, I'll have to find a nice way to display them standing. But aircraft are made to fly!
Yeah, I hear 'ya, but we're all pretty much in the same boat.
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The Starjets 200 stands work with quite a lot of small/medium models. 3mm?
Cheap to buy and comes with a free model.
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Cheap to buy and comes with a free model.
Could you point me to a piccy? I'm always on the lookout for a decent stand for my mid-sized (A320 and smaller) models.

Thanx in advance!
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Yeah, I hear 'ya, but we're all pretty much in the same boat.
If you are into boats this seems like the wrong forum, eh? ;-)
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