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Old 08-04-2012, 12:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi There

I was doing a google search about how to best handle the models and came across this article.
Why Do Curators Wear Gloves? - Museums
I am a firm believer in using gloves while handling my models as there are acids/oils on our hands even when you have recently washed that can harm the finish/paint over time.
Right now I am using nitrile gloves (blue) as they are less tacky then surgical gloves but not slippery like cotton.
Anyway I was wondering how the rest of you handle you models.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah you must wear a 200th scale gloves when handling your models.
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Old 08-04-2012, 12:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Unless your actively playing with your models while you eat Kentucky Fried Chicken then I do not think the few times you might move the model from one place to another you will do too much harm in the short run.

I highly doubt anyone expects these to last for centuries. I would not worry about the glove thing. But hey; what you do behind closed doors is your business. Personally I'd be horrified to be caught handling these models with white curators gloves. I don't think my wife would ever let me live it down.
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Rather than risk dropping the model while wearing gloves, I just wipe the model with a soft cloth when I finish handling it. I also avoid eating KFC while looking at my collection. Museum curators are dealing with objects hundreds or thousands of years old, not model airplanes that have a protective clear coat sprayed on them.
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I am a firm believer in using gloves while handling my models as there are acids/oils on our hands even when you have recently washed that can harm the finish/paint over time.
Unless you are puking gastric and lactic acid onto your models, I dont think you have to worry about that issue too much. Unless of course you are part alien or something.
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I sooo love this forum.. Who needs Prozac to be happy?! A Model hygiene post never fails to cheer me up! Excellent!!!
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Old 08-04-2012, 05:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Interesting article, but it isn't something to worry about. The models will yellow much earlier than that they get damaged by the oils and acids of our hands..
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BTW.. I pick my models up using naked hands. I brush dust off using a fine brush. Any dirty marks found then i use a damp cloth and finish it with a dry cloth (cloth is usually kitchen towel/paper). Hey presto, model like new! I only use gloves in the garden..
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Interesting article, but it isn't something to worry about. The models will yellow much earlier than that they get damaged by the oils and acids of our hands..
I have never owned a Gemini model that has yellowed 1/400 or 1/200. Been collecting diecast since 1998. Cracks yes. Are you talking about plastic like Hogan or Herpa?
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Hi There

I was doing a google search about how to best handle the models and came across this article.
Why Do Curators Wear Gloves? - Museums
I am a firm believer in using gloves while handling my models as there are acids/oils on our hands even when you have recently washed that can harm the finish/paint over time.
Right now I am using nitrile gloves (blue) as they are less tacky then surgical gloves but not slippery like cotton.
Anyway I was wondering how the rest of you handle you models.
Yep i handle my models the same way! When i have a new model i first wipe it clean with a clean cotton shirt, remove dust, finger prints and other marks.

Do what you feels right!
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Well this may or may not be relevant to this topic but the last time I had a look at my Herpa Premium Thai A300, when I took it out of the box, I was horrified to notice part of the cheatline wearing away on the fuselage from right behind the wings where I usually handle it from and I have maybe handled it/held it from there maybe like a dozen times since I got it and a few friends here and there also picked it up from the same location but irrespective of that, this should not have happened.



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Old 08-04-2012, 07:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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well all my models are kept in a temperature controlled viewing room and hermetically sealed once I have exited. Yes of course i wear gloves to handle them but never the same pair twice, I incinerate each pair after use.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Great responses guys

I guess now would be a really bad time to mention my surgical cap
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:29 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well this may or may not be relevant to this topic but the last time I had a look at my Herpa Premium Thai A300, when I took it out of the box, I was horrified to notice part of the cheatline wearing away on the fuselage from right behind the wings where I usually handle it from and I have maybe handled it/held it from there maybe like a dozen times since I got it and a few friends here and there also picked it up from the same location but irrespective of that, this should not have happened.
That is a shame Moin. I had two Herpa premiums a long time ago. If memory serves me correct, they did not seem to have much of a clear-coat on them to protect the underlying printed parts.
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i use paper towel to handle models.
off topic: should i wash my models once in a while (kept in ikea detolf) with water and light detergent or i should leave them as is?
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Old 08-04-2012, 07:57 PM   #16 (permalink)
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for as much as exagerated this thread may sound, I do agree to a certain point with this model "handling" thing...we all know that yes, we do leave finger marks on the models surfaces, so some of us use gloves, me included when I'm cleaning my bigger models, the travel agents type.I have cotton gloves, but they're slippery, I agree, so the vinyl ones are better.as for the diecast ones, if you dont want to break small parts by wiping a soft cloth after handling them, I'd strongly suggest using vinil gloves too.We all know these models are just models, but they are to some collectors more important than others...its all a point of view, and freedom of speech,etc et al...Moin, sad to hear that...my KLM Premium and the rest of the LH fleet are all still in their original boxes, since I've never displayed them...lets have some pictures then.
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Old 08-04-2012, 10:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I use a good auto polish with a sunscreen agent.

If it is good enough for my car and all of the dust, dirt, salt, smog, tar, pollen, bird poop and pebbles that gets thrown at it, it is good enough for my models. Besides, my cars have always looked great for many years. And the road is a much harsher environment than my models endure.

Paint is paint and there is really only 2 kinds used on models, acrylic and lacquer, and a good quality auto polish is good for both. It nourishes and protects the paint. I handle the models that I desplay on a regular basis, and it is nice to know there is something between the paint on my models and my supposedly oiley, acidy hands.

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Old 08-04-2012, 10:45 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Just for the record, normal human skin pH runs from 4.5 to 6 on the pH scale which ranges from 1-14. So unless you have battery acid on your hands, or constantly dip them into Coca-Cola, or rub on your model to no end, there is no way that your skin 'acid' will break down the clear-coat on our beloved models.

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Old 08-04-2012, 11:01 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The way I clean my models (plastic) is with regular window cleaner like windex and a paper towel or napkin, I never had a problem with it and it will take off any finger oils.
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The way I clean my models (plastic) is with regular window cleaner like windex and a paper towel or napkin, I never had a problem with it and it will take off any finger oils.
I would instead suggest a cleaner that is designed for plastic which does not contain alcohol like most glass cleaners do (except for the alcohol free ones). Plastic cleaning products are sold specifically for use on plastic windows such as those found in boats and RVs. These products will not etch the plastic like alcohol will.

Secondly, paper towels and napkins are made from wood fibers and are not suitable for cleaning softer materials such as plastic except sparingly or in a pinch. I won't even use these on my boat hull much less plastic models, but I rather use microfiber towels, or older cotton washcloths, both of which can be used and cleaned over and over again.
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Old 08-05-2012, 12:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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First of all, I will shave off every hair on my body!
Then I take a bath, put on a clean white overall and mask and then I
put on my clean white gloves......
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Old 08-06-2012, 12:39 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Why bother to clean your model?

Even the real bird -that worth million dollars and got exposed to tons of dust every year- never got washed, and the airlines still collect them..

The dirtier your model the more it looks real....
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The way I clean my models (plastic) is with regular window cleaner like windex and a paper towel or napkin, I never had a problem with it and it will take off any finger oils.
OMG no... I have ruined more things in this life with Windex and paper towels.

If a model is dirty to the point of needing a grease cutter then regular dish soap and water work quite well without harming anything. After the bath I dry the model as good as possible with an old 100% cotton t-shirt and then let it sit in front of a fan for a day to dry out all the nooks and crannies.

I recently learned how to let models get dusty and I've got to say they're a whole lot more fun out of their boxes. I'll only be here another 10, 20, 40 years - these models will look fine long after I'm gone. Enjoy your models - you paid enough for them!
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OMG no... I have ruined more things in this life with Windex and paper towels.
Oh, absolutely . . . Windex is a complete no-no. The active ingredient is ammonia which can be very aggressive on fine clear-coats and tampo paints that are used on our models. Many brands of paper towel also have fine 'foreign particle' bits that can scratch, and one of them may still be metal, depending on brand.

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If a model is dirty to the point of needing a grease cutter then regular dish soap and water work quite well without harming anything. After the bath I dry the model as good as possible with an old 100% cotton t-shirt and then let it sit in front of a fan for a day to dry out all the nooks and crannies.
A dry micro-fibre cloth is all I use to clean off stubborn dust and bug poo (watch the fiddly aerials!!) -- and I never handle my models directly after scarfing down a bucket of KFC chicken!


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I recently learned how to let models get dusty and I've got to say they're a whole lot more fun out of their boxes. I'll only be here another 10, 20, 40 years - these models will look fine long after I'm gone. Enjoy your models - you paid enough for them!
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I definitely use gloves (cotton with micro rubber grip-dots) on all my models (both plastics and die-casts) and just a straight cotton cloth for wiping if required. I find my hands on some days are sweatier than others so its a personal overall discipline Ive introduced. I cannot speak for others but reading through the posts I suppose its personal choice. I do think constant exposure to our hands would affect the model long term but the models of today seem to have a more durable quality about them in their final finished form as opposed to models 10+ years ago or models from the "cheaper" plastic model makers. Mind you, at the end of the day it boils down to how you feel about it all and personal choice ....
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I wonder if all the flour sittin on my models at the back of my pizza shop are effecting my models,

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I have never had a problem using Windex or whatever other glass cleaner my wife has in the house on any model (Flight Miniatures and now Hogan). One consideration I have and did not mention is the napkins or paper towels that have print in them like pictures or some other design, I do not use those cause I'm afraid of color transfer from the ink, so a lot of times I you toilet paper, works great and I have never seen small scratches.
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Those long 747 wings are great pizza cutters!
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