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Old 06-14-2012, 06:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just received it!

First 747SP for me, as the SAA was never delivered.

First impressions here (sorry for the crappy pics - I'm currently at work):









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Old 06-14-2012, 07:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I know some contributor's have been very critical of this release but I have to say that's a splendid looking model of a very rakish looking aeroplane. Nice details. I wouldn't mind seeing released this kind of scheme on a pax 747-100. I like the larger Pan Am legend. Gemini can produce the goods many more times than not.
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Where are wing end antennas?
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Safely inside the box, together with a nice display stand (same as on my Delta 767). You can see one of the holes for them in the wing tip.

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Safely inside the box, together with a nice display stand (same as on my Delta 767). You can see one of the holes for them in the wing tip.

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Mine just arrived yestrday, looks great! I am also leaving the tips off - don't want to risk breaking them. Great model, and a good price for it too (compared to Inflight at least).
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Nice model, i didn't find any pic of Clipper Constitution wearing the SP mark under the radome and the black nose and complete cheatline altogether. This particular aircraft had lot of differents "nose job" as can be seen on A.net. But no one like the one depicted on the GJ model. But still a nice one.

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cant wait for mine! Very nice!
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Very good looking model and nicely portrayed in the photos.


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Nice bird.
Want to thank the OP as i received the Saa sp quite a while ago and when i noticed the wingtip antennas lying at the bottom of the box i said to myself, these did not withstand transit so i would just glue them back.
After reading OP post I therefore checked and indeed the holes are there.
Just to say that my eyesight is getting worse.
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How do the antennas attach? Surely they are too small to be threaded or anything like that. Do they just push into place or something?
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Will check the antennas when I am at home again.

I am going to take better pics during weekend.

Here is a photo of the original 'Clipper Constitution':

JetPhotos.Net Photo » N532PA (CN: 21024) Pan Am Boeing 747SP-21 by Jon Proctor

Close enough if you ask me.
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could you send a picture on the display stand?

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Old 06-15-2012, 12:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Nice! Will be making the trip to the airplane shop here in NJ soon to get one. Will pair with my IF 200 Qantas SP. Also aiming for the IF TWA SP.
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Nobody cares that the nose is just completely wrong?
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Nobody cares that the nose is just completely wrong?
Completely wrong would be a neon pink nose.
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Completely wrong would be a neon pink nose.
Really? The incorrect stripe (for the nose cone paint config) plus that utterly fictitious, gigantic "SP" logo directly underneath the rain erosion boot don't qualify as gross errors?

It's astonishing to me how so much sheer fantasy ended up concentrated onto one particular section of the model.
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Really? The incorrect stripe (for the nose cone paint config) plus that utterly fictitious, gigantic "SP" logo directly underneath the rain erosion boot don't qualify as gross errors?

It's astonishing to me how so much sheer fantasy ended up concentrated onto one particular section of the model.
Honestly, to me its just a easy to look past.
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Honestly, to me its just a easy to look past.
I guess if the model cost $20 I could get my head around it.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Pro:
- Very detailed
- Perfect bare metal without clouded finish
- SP details like flaps and hinge covers (bumbs on the underside) reproduced

Con:
- Front gear not touching ground (main gear needs some tweaking)
- Stabilizer transition too steep

I just discovered a broken front gear. Just great. Gotta call Boeing...BRB
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Gorgeous shot EMD, the SP mould looks great. I would be all over a release of Saudi Arabian!
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I was at ADI/Gemini Jets today and they had one on display. It was absolutely beautiful. Now I have to buy one....
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Is it just me? At least the front wheels are to big...
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Thanks Christian for that shot... Just cost me that has....

Nose wheel to big, yes by miles..... But just makes it easierfor those shagpile take offs and landings...
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Pro:
- Very detailed
- Perfect bare metal without clouded finish
- SP details like flaps and hinge covers (bumbs on the underside) reproduced

Con:
- Front gear not touching ground (main gear needs some tweaking)
- Stabilizer transition too steep

I just discovered a broken front gear. Just great. Gotta call Boeing...BRB
Almost thought that was the real deal sitting on a giant mirror!

I gotta say, I was never a huge 747SP fan, but after seeing that photo I'm fighting the temptation to buy one of those (even though I can't afford one ). Eventually I will have a Pan Am 747 and a 747SP in my 'Classic 1:200 Collection' for sure.

Man, that looks like near perfection right there. If these can still be found after I have crossed some 1:200s off the list, I'll pick one up.
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Rear shot:

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Here with the included display stand:

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OMFG
Whats up with the BS blue and gold markings on the belly!!!
Oh wait a minute................

Still though!!!

All kidding aside nice model
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Ordered mine today. Thanks for the pictures (particularly the rear shot, and the one on the stand). Gorgeous model, really looking forward to its arrival!
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Nose wheel to big, yes by miles..... But just makes it easierfor those shagpile take offs and landings...
Just wondering if large front gear is a post production botch up to try and cover up the "no sitty down" front end. Its been a problem with the SAA's as well.
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There really is an aftermarket for correct sized wheels! Who wants to step in? Can't be too hard.

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indeed she looks nice...but the SP titles and the rounded nose finish in white ruins it...With so many data these days, photos everywhere, I dont understand why these errors keep happening...of course this will sell well...if you like it buy it...if you dont really like it, buy nevertheless...people will be looking for this one in the future and will pay good money...so my crystal ball says.Something I've learned in this hobby, is that american airlines always sell good, and resell even better.
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oh and by the way, I like those red beacons very realistic, great pictures again sehr gut, wirchklich gut !
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the curved nose white could be ok...see the photo,after these photos from Christian I had to order this bird !!!
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VHF antenna are nicely attached
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the curved nose white could be ok...see the photo,after these photos from Christian I had to order this bird !!!
Oh fook... That photo says something.

Now, has anyone got a pic of "Constitution" looking like that, and even better with the black dot and the "SP" under the nose?

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Here with the included display stand:

Looks GREAT on the stand!
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Really? The incorrect stripe (for the nose cone paint config) plus that utterly fictitious, gigantic "SP" logo directly underneath the rain erosion boot don't qualify as gross errors?l.
But are they? Photo above seems to dispel at least the cheat line myth if 532 also appeared like that...!

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But are they? Photo above seems to dispel at least the cheat line myth if 532 also appeared like that...!

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For this version where the white crown arcs downward and completely covers the radome, the cheat line should be broken. It should not continue completely around the nose. Also, there was NEVER any SP logo placed there on the radome not in EITHER version.



This is also how Pan Am's 747-121 scheme was standardized, with the completely white nose cone and broken stripe:



The correct appearance of the area around the radome below the cheat line for the version Gemini produced (which was the initial iteration of the Pan Am 747SP) is as below -- with NO SP logo on the radome:



As you can see, the bottom section of the radome is visible and painted gray, and the white runs parallel to the but cheat line without arcing downward and totally encompassing the nose cone.

There was either one or the other. The broken cheat line versions started to appear around 1979 as they needed repainting, and they were changed to match the standard 747 fleet.

Gemini had this whole thing correct in the pre-production version with the broken blue stripe, and then they changed to the continuous cheat line. Now it is incorrect.
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But are they? Photo above seems to dispel at least the cheat line myth if 532 also appeared like that...!

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To me, the model is correct if you delete the "SP" word under the radome.. is it possible to do that without damaging the paint?.

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For this version where the white crown arcs downward and completely covers the radome, the cheat line should be broken. It should not continue completely around the nose
I understand what you are saying. But Just look at the pic posted by wingcommander above... It clearly shows an unbroken cheat line AND. A curved down white section... It seems to contradict the credibility of the armchair experts somewhat on this subject.

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I understand what you are saying. But Just look at the pic posted by wingcommander above... It clearly shows an unbroken cheat line AND. A curved down white section... It seems to contradict the credibility of the armchair experts somewhat on this subject.

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Did not see that post. Interesting. I would venture to say this would be the only photo of such an odd config. I am happy somebody found this -- although it does not appear to be correct for any photo I have found of N532PA Clipper Constitution...

And interestingly, when you zoom into that photo, it almost looks like there is no black circle rain erosion boot on the radome. So what was this -- a paint mistake made by Pan Am's mechanics and then corrected shorty afterward?

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Maybe the "SP" is on the nose for carrier trials, so the LSO knew it wasn't a standard 747!!
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Has anyone else noticed the globes on the tail. They are not level. Looks like they are off the same amount on both sides. Funny, but it's the first thing I noticed when I removed it from the box. Otherwise it looks great. Looks small sitting between two normal sized 747s in my display case.

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I now own this model WOW!!! I remember going to O'Hare airport, while in high school and seeing Pan Am flights come in. I would always see Pan Am 747s in MIA and NYC. this model is a superberb model of an iconic jet. I only wish I had gotten to fly on one.

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I flew on it from JFK to Brazil back in the early 80's. Beautiful model and glad I added it to my collection.
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Sure is beautiful!

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Also thanks again to airspotters for the model! First one arrived broken, but it was replaced quickly and free. Great service!
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