To be fair, they made a better job than the A310. But as previously mentioned, it's not great it isn't polished, and that's a major flaw missing the lower winglets. I don't think the tail is that bad. But more significantly, what the hell is going on with the antenna on the top and bottom!? Very strange shape. Why not just cast a small hole into the mould and add photo etched brass antenna, would look infinitely better..
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Thanks for sharing the pics. I'm not overwhelmed by what I'm seeing, but then I've never been a big MD-11 fan. I'm still hoping we'll see a polished metal AA DC-10 one day. (A guy can dream, right?)
The upper winglets should NOT be vertical---they should cant outwards, like every other winglet out there.
::sends off email and pics to HM:: (unlike many companies, they actually do read critiques of their samples and often fix some of them before final production)
If they fix the wingletts, this looks like a nice model.
I'm currently on the fence about polished metal. When it is done right, it can be spectacular. But if the overcoat is not applied evenly, the result can be really bad. So do I order the polished models and hope for the best, or buy models with painted 'metal' and get a consistent finish?
Actually, I don't let the finish determine what I buy. If I like the subject, I'll buy it polished or not. But maybe not this one.
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Where is the bottom wing rake? The tail is outta shape, and no polished metal?!
These are the best I can think of.
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With all the belly aching that was done in previous threads about it having a plastic body and metal wings, You acually though it was going to have a polished fuselage?
Yeah, just wanted to let Hobby Master know that some of us collectors would have preferred a 'polished metal' AA MD-11;
Simple equation: produce a plastic model + paint it metalic silver for an iconic AA plane (polished metal livery) = I will pass. Do you see any griping or belly aching there? Cheers! T7 (curious of what's the purpose of the metal insert? )
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With all the belly aching that was done in previous threads about it having a plastic body and metal wings, You acually though it was going to have a polished fuselage?
If the pre-production photos are anything like the ones they did for the AA DC-6B, they won't change much for the final product. I passed on the AA DC-6, which I was really looking forward to, because it was a disaster. I worked aboard 1AJ often in the early '90s, to CDG and then LHR.
It's a shame they don't have the lower winglets on the model, they had a red, white and blue stripe on them. I hate to be a downer on here, but this is yet another disappointment from HM.
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I thought HM MD11 was going to be diecast, HG has better plastic MD11 mould...
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give me a break ... even hogan can represented it way better than this. that absent of lower part of winglet is pretty obvious. I'm all for your military plane but the airliner....... not a cent.
With the exception of the incorrect/incomplete winglets, its really not a bad model at all. Much better than the A310. However, Hogan still has the best MD-11 mold out there.
With the exception of the incorrect/incomplete winglets, its really not a bad model at all. Much better than the A310. However, Hogan still has the best MD-11 mold out there.
Totally agree with you, it if was in KLM colours it would be nice! or maybe Aeroflot cargo! Any non-polished AA MD11 is not going to look good against the hogan version. And HM needs to trim that antenna down!
Honestly...the 1/200 Hogan version looks just like this, only difference is the addition of a wing corroguard and more accurate landing gear..that's about it. I thought this model was plastic when I first saw the photos.
I was tempted to said what mjabassi already wrote. I recently buy the American MD-11 made by Hogan and it is pretty good, looks more shiny than the previous AA models.
This one looks similar to the Hogan, but as everybody has mentioned, the winglets are not correct and other details too. But still a nice option if you do not have the Hogan.
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With all the pictures available, manufacturers drawings, & CAD CAM designing, you would think that in this era of modern production that these companies could get them close to 100% correct. You would also assume that they (the manufacturers) would be participating in these forum sites & listening to the very people that would be potentially purchasing their models so as to get the necessary feedback to get it right. This would happen in the perfect world......
With all the pictures available, manufacturers drawings, & CAD CAM designing, you would think that in this era of modern production that these companies could get them close to 100% correct. You would also assume that they (the manufacturers) would be participating in these forum sites & listening to the very people that would be potentially purchasing their models so as to get the necessary feedback to get it right. This would happen in the perfect world......
Hear! Hear! Doesn't look too bad except for the obvious but it won't satisfy in the age of accurate metallic finishes that other's can achieve from scratch.
Why are the main gear cover doors on the inside and not on the outside of the main gear.
You can see this on the head on photo and in the reflection on the surface in the front angle photos.
Also the wing pattern could be enhanced a little more. And of course, as has been mentioned, the most obvious distinctive feature of the MD-11 are the wingtips.
Mold-wise, I think this has a superior #2 intake/nacelle compared to Hogan's. And possibly #2 pylon. (Hogan's is actually kind of a weird hybrid of an early intake with a late intake lip, and isn't really right for either, and it seems too smooth/curved overall--should be more "definition" between the sections as you go aft) But most everything else Hogan did better. (though Hogan/Herpa should REALLY start *painting* the fuselages white, instead of just leaving them in white bare plastic)
Really, both HM and Hogan should have just copied Hasegawa's kit---that is a dead-on MD-11.
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Really, both HM and Hogan should have just copied Hasegawa's kit---that is a dead-on MD-11.
I have made a few Hasegawa MD-11's & to be quite honest, displayed on a shelf no-one could tell whether they were a diecast model or made from plastic. I buy the odd Hogan Wings model & except for the lack of aerials etc, find them just as good as the equivalent model in diecast. Plastic has always been better for finer detail. Just look at the 1/400 DW DC-10 (plastic wings & engines) compared to the GJ version (diecast wings & engines) which are much thicker & don't look nearly as good. I think that people should start getting over this "diecast versus plastic" thing & buy models based on how well they have been produced. After all, the devil is in the detail & that is what makes us all part with our hard earned money. I also collect 1/18 diecast race cars & am amazed by the new resin versions that are now being produced & how much finer detail can be achieved by using a different medium. We just have to learn to open up our minds a bit more.
I have made a few Hasegawa MD-11's & to be quite honest, displayed on a shelf no-one could tell whether they were a diecast model or made from plastic. I buy the odd Hogan Wings model & except for the lack of aerials etc, find them just as good as the equivalent model in diecast. Plastic has always been better for finer detail. Just look at the 1/400 DW DC-10 (plastic wings & engines) compared to the GJ version (diecast wings & engines) which are much thicker & don't look nearly as good. I think that people should start getting over this "diecast versus plastic" thing & buy models based on how well they have been produced. After all, the devil is in the detail & that is what makes us all part with our hard earned money. I also collect 1/18 diecast race cars & am amazed by the new resin versions that are now being produced & how much finer detail can be achieved by using a different medium. We just have to learn to open up our minds a bit more.
The model actually doesn't look half bad. The winglets can be improved the landing gears look very nice. However a big disappointment due to half diecast and half plastic. I will pass and wait for hopefully Gjs offering
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I have made a few Hasegawa MD-11's & to be quite honest, displayed on a shelf no-one could tell whether they were a diecast model or made from plastic. I buy the odd Hogan Wings model & except for the lack of aerials etc, find them just as good as the equivalent model in diecast. Plastic has always been better for finer detail. Just look at the 1/400 DW DC-10 (plastic wings & engines) compared to the GJ version (diecast wings & engines) which are much thicker & don't look nearly as good. I think that people should start getting over this "diecast versus plastic" thing & buy models based on how well they have been produced. After all, the devil is in the detail & that is what makes us all part with our hard earned money. I also collect 1/18 diecast race cars & am amazed by the new resin versions that are now being produced & how much finer detail can be achieved by using a different medium. We just have to learn to open up our minds a bit more.
Opening the mind but not my wallet. the rrp of the HM MD-11 is a joke. For a model that's plastic they've got to be kidding.
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I think we also forget that the Herpa premium range (& please correct me if I am wrong) had plastic fuselages & we all appreciate how damn good (& expensive) these things are.
I think we also forget that the Herpa premium range (& please correct me if I am wrong) had plastic fuselages & we all appreciate how damn good (& expensive) these things are.
I think we also forget that the Herpa premium range (& please correct me if I am wrong) had plastic fuselages & we all appreciate how damn good (& expensive) these things are.
It would be hard to argue that any other 1:200 model line could compare to the eye-candy that is the Herpa Premium line. The only fault that I know of is the white parts of some models turning yellow.
With all the technology we have at present , I wonder why HM decided to make its own MD11 and A310 replicas. It shows that their research department fails miserably. Two strikes and one more to go, it will be a strikeout!
The engine detail looks crappy...it all blobs together. The little fins that are on the engines look like little tents. I have the HG version and I happen to think it looks pretty dang good. True, it's not really polished metal, but Hogan's American paint scheme has gotten much better over the past few years. From everything I've read about HM, I might not ever buy one of their models.
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It would be hard to argue that any other 1:200 model line could compare to the eye-candy that is the Herpa Premium line. The only fault that I know of is the white parts of some models turning yellow.
Well that and the empty fuselages
Kidding aside they are nice, my only complaint would be the seam lines on some of the models become noticeable if they aren't put together too well.
I am proving a new camera, remembered this thread and want to share some pictures of the Hogan MD-11. Model added to my collection a few weeks ago. The newest AA's from Hogan has more shiny finishing, but still being gray paint. If Hogan uses Alclad II for polished airliners......
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