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Old 07-16-2007, 08:52 PM   #1
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I figured since these pics are of military jets they should probably be in a seperate section. If anyone else has any pics of military jets please place them here. This thread is obviously inspired by the other cool shots in the commercial aviation section. Good idea Heavy and Bill-ay.

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I figured since these pics are of military jets they should probably be in a seperate section. If anyone else has any pics of military jets please place them here. This thread is obviously inspired by the other cool shots in the commercial aviation section. Good idea Heavy and Bill-ay.
.....I always thought the military C-130 models look a bit "naked" without the wing tanks. The Saudi C-100 looks better with its wing tanks.
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To tell you the truth Dave I don't think I have ever seen any of the C-130's here at Niagara Falls without their tanks. If you look closely at that plane you can see all of the updated ECM equipment on it. Ther are two little bulges above the cockpit and a very large one aft of the wheels on the aft part of the fusalage. What you see there arent the actual counter measures themselves just the mounts for them. They only put them on in real world missions. They enable the C-130 to defeat IR missiles. These planes were in Iraq for quite sometime and haven't been back for very long.
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To tell you the truth Dave I don't think I have ever seen any of the C-130's here at Niagara Falls without their tanks. If you look closely at that plane you can see all of the updated ECM equipment on it. Ther are two little bulges above the cockpit and a very large one aft of the wheels on the aft part of the fusalage. What you see there arent the actual counter measures themselves just the mounts for them. They only put them on in real world missions. They enable the C-130 to defeat IR missiles. These planes were in Iraq for quite sometime and haven't been back for very long.
.....My point. I've never seen a military C-130 without wing tanks with one exception. The one exception was the C-130T USMC "Fat Albert" that is assigned to the Blue Angels. Every other one (USAF, USN, USMC) all have the wing tanks.
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I think the addition of the tanks makes them look more stout. I like the look of the KC-130's and the Spec Ops planes that usually carry 4 reserve tanks. It would be cool if Dragon or Gemini came out with a few of these.
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Hey Garth,

This one is for you buddy, my Military and Ex Military collection of Goliaths!..

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AHHH looks good with its new company. An A380F should complete the lineup of heavy lifters.
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.....OK, here's my first contribution. Excuse the grainy Phantom shots as they were taken from slides and high speed film of the day just wasn't available.
  • The two F-4J Phantom II shots are from 1971 aboard the USS America (CVA66) while deployed to the Mediterranean. Love afterburners going full throttle at night!
  • The wave skimming F-14 was from the USS Saratoga (CV60) taken from the USS Anzio (CG59) which I was doing surveys on as it cruised to its homeport of Norfolk, VA from the builders in Pascagoula, MS.
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Dave, Those pictures are F-in sweet. I can almost feel the thunder shaking my bones. There used to be F-4s at Niagara Falls and the older guys told me that the afterburner would cause the stabilators to catch fire sometimes. I can see why.
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Not a Herc-expert, but doesn't it depend on the C-130 version whether or not it carries wing-tanks?

Hellenic AF C-130B do not (cannot AFAIK) carry wing-tanks, while I can't remember seeing the C-130H without, while they sure can be removed, can't they?
The RS Hercs I see almost daily on their run Ramstein-Grafenwöhr and back always carry those tanks as they are H's.
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I'm not a Herc expert either but I know I've seen Vietnam era photos where C-130's have the external tanks. I'll walk across the taxi way in couple of weeks during our airshow and ask the C-130 mechanics that very question.
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Really like the pics, all. Garth, nice that the Ramstein Lilliputians came to visit in their C-130. The carrier shots were awesome...how come you never show these war pics, Dave? I'm sure you have a few more laying in a drawer someplace. I wish I'd thought to take pictures of all the bases I've been to, but I just never did. Got some boring pics of my last assignment, but I didn't take any pics of the Jagdbombergruppe base where the Tornadoes were flying. The Germans were a little touchy about that, especially since the planes were carrying "special" loads on occasion.
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Here's some German F-4's and a Georgia ANG B-ONE taking off from Nordholz, Germany. If you ever get to witness the B-1 take off, bring your ear protection!

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I've seen a Bone in flight, but never taking off. I hear that they're considering relegating all the Bones to either Guard units or inactive reserve, to save money, since the damn things are so expensive to maintain.
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Guard units would make sense. It would make sense because Guard units tend to fly more than the active units believe it or not. One of the things I hear about that jet is the more it sits the more things break on it. They also maintain their planes better because they have mechanics in some instances who have been working on the same plane for over 20 years. In the Guard it is very common to see a Master as a dedicated crew chief. In the actives once you're a Tech they want to start putting you in an office. They're doing the same thing with the C-5's.
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Steve, weren't those "special" weapons under the command and responsibility of USAF units? AFAIK from the Starfighter era, the base's special areas were guarded by US staff.
Not sure how things changed when the Tornado arrived. If I remember correctly, you've been with the JaboG34"Allgäu" at Memmingen, correct? One of the last units to convert from the 104G to the IDS in the later 80's. Didn't know they were still in the "special" assignment at this point.

Not sure if they can be considered "cool" or just average, but here are a few shots I made:
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If you ever get to witness the B-1 take off, bring your ear protection!
No, never got a chance to see a Lancer took off before but got I buzzed once in southern Utah. I approximated it's altitude at no more than 500 ft and its speed at about 300-350 knots.
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Not sure if they can be considered "cool" or just average, but here are a few shots I made:
That last shot is a classic - sure miss the smoke trail of the Phantom! Living up to your username, eh!
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Phantom, those are some nice pictures. The pic of the Eurofighter and the F-4 is impressive as well as the F-4 above the lights. That must be a rush with the planes coming that close to you. I've done the same thing before and I think it's an awesome experience being that close to that much power.
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Steve, weren't those "special" weapons under the command and responsibility of USAF units? AFAIK from the Starfighter era, the base's special areas were guarded by US staff.
Not sure how things changed when the Tornado arrived. If I remember correctly, you've been with the JaboG34"Allgäu" at Memmingen, correct? One of the last units to convert from the 104G to the IDS in the later 80's. Didn't know they were still in the "special" assignment at this point.

Not sure if they can be considered "cool" or just average, but here are a few shots I made:
I was with a USAF MUNSS unit that was in charge of the "special" weapons there for the JaboG...surprised you've heard of the "Allgau" or Memmingen AB. All of the weapons that we could neither confirm or deny had MUNSS units attached when the nationals flew with them. JaboG34 was assigned as a tactical strike/ground attack unit, so they were given a certain amount of latitude if the US made a decision to go "weapons free" against a Soviet invasion. I checked into what's up now since I retired from there, and the base is gone. The MUNSS closed a couple of years after I left when we pulled the "special" weapons from the European Theater. That was about 1996, IFAIK.
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Steve, something just dawned on me. Shouldn't you have a few pictures of some BUFFS laying around?
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Champ,

Any chance of C-17 pics with the aircraft and the GeminiMacs!?!?!
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Not yet, but I will in about three weeks. August 10,11, and 12th there is an Air Show at the base I work at and I know a C-17 will arrive. Hopefully it is one of the units I already have. I'll post some of the better pictures. I'm going to look pretty weird walking around with all of those little planes but oh well. The pictures will be worth it.
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..... This will never happen again. If it did they'd be a lot of unpleasantly soiled pants on the ground.
a flight of Boeing B-17As flying over New York City (late 1930s)
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Dave, you have a picture of the Empire State Bldg after the B-25 plowed into it in 1943?
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Dave, you have a picture of the Empire State Bldg after the B-25 plowed into it in 1943?
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I've heard about that. Not too sure the cause of the crash but was it because of heavy fog? What was it doing flying over NY?
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Heavy fog is what I heard was the cause of the crash too.
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Heavy fog is what I heard was the cause of the crash too.
..... History Channel in its "Modern Marvels" series did one on the Empire State Building which included the B-25 incident. There were a number of things that contributed to the accident. There was of course the heavy fog and overcast. The B-25 was also supposed to be flying at 2000 feet, but they were hopelessly lost so the pilot dropped down to 1000 feet and lower to try and get his bearings which obviously didn't work out. As low as the B-25 was flying it could have hit any number of NYC's skyscrapers, but hit one of the two iconic landmark skyscrapers (the Chrysler Building being the other) of the day.
..... One question, unanswered for that program was could the Empire State Building take a hit by a 757/767 as the WTC did and survive? The construction of the buildings was way different. The box girder construction of the Empire State Building is very robust compared to the WTC which essentially was built like a hollow box with the structural support on the outside walls. The WTC was innovative at the time, but was surely not designed with the thought that they would be targets of large airliners.
..... I think a 757/767 would probably do major damage to the Empire State Building, but it wouldn't collapse like the WTC. Better things to do with airplanes than that of course.
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..... I think a 757/767 would probably do major damage to the Empire State Building, but it wouldn't collapse like the WTC.
I think so too! The ESB is looks really solid and I was told that the exterior is made of granite.
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Champ, was the Nordholz pic of the Bone shot from an E-3A?

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Phantom,thanks a lot for posting that video. It brought back a lot of memories. Yep, the Nordholz shot was from a NATO E-3A. I was a crew chief at Geilenkirchen from 99-01. I had a lot of fun there. It's also where I met my wife so I'll always be very fond of the E-3A. Smokey SOB's aren't they? The crews on the NATO planes are multi national and the pilots come from all sorts of different airframes before they come there. Most of them used to fly fighters so they aren't used to flying such a big multi-engined jet. I went on a flight one time with a pilot who was flying the E-3 for the first time. It was freaking scary. The first two times he tried to do a touch and go we had to do missed approaches because he was having a hard time getting the thing lined up. When we finally did land we bounced about three times. I sat up front during the whole thing in the instructor pilot chair which actually never gets used by an IP. Landings like the one you filmed are not so rare. I'm not joking. The worst place to be is in the tail because the seats face backwards and there aren't any windows except for the escape hatches. During landings like that you can chip your freaking teeth.

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Phantom,thanks a lot for posting that video. It brought back a lot of memories. Yep, the Nordholz shot was from a NATO E-3A. I was a crew chief at Geilenkirchen from 99-01. I had a lot of fun there. It's also where I met my wife so I'll always be very fond of the E-3A. Smokey SOB's aren't they? The crews on the NATO planes are multi national and the pilots come from all sorts of different airframes before they come there. Most of them used to fly fighters so they aren't used to flying such a big multi-engined jet. I went on a flight one time with a pilot who was flying the E-3 for the first time. It was freaking scary. The first two times he tried to do a touch and go we had to do missed approaches because he was having a hard time getting the thing lined up. When we finally did land we bounced about three times. I sat up front during the whole thing in the instructor pilot chair which actually never gets used by an IP. Landings like the one you filmed are not so rare. I'm not joking. The worst place to be is in the tail because the seats face backwards and there aren't any windows except for the escape hatches. During landings like that you can chip your freaking teeth.
Very interesting read. Thanks!
I often wondered why E-3A and 707TCA crews almost always screw up their landings - actually, I've never seen a really smooth and airliner-like E-3A/707TCA landing. What you say explains a lot, certainly was a great experience flying on these aircraft. Here, E-3A and especially the TCA are common sight doing their touch-and-go training routine.
You might as well be interested in another video. This time it's 707-307C/TCA (USAF calls it a CT-49A, right?) LX-N20000 on take off.
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Very interesting read. Thanks!
I often wondered why E-3A and 707TCA crews almost always screw up their landings - actually, I've never seen a really smooth and airliner-like E-3A/707TCA landing. What you say explains a lot, certainly was a great experience flying on these aircraft. Here, E-3A and especially the TCA are common sight doing their touch-and-go training routine.
You might as well be interested in another video. This time it's 707-307C/TCA (USAF calls it a CT-49A, right?) LX-N20000 on take off.
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I've flown on those too. The fwd part of the TCA is set up to hold cargo, but then there is a bulkead about halfway back and then it is set up like an airliner. They use the TCA's when they are doing deployments that require all the specialists to come along for extended stays. They also use them to ship parts to broken E-3s wherever they are. Another reason they land hard is that they are actually told to land somewhat hard and not airline style. They had a bunch of problems with the struts supposedly and the Boeing engineers told them they weren't landing them hard enough. This is what was told to me by my Dutch trainer when I first arrived. I was skeptical at first but then I was told the same thing a few more times while I was there. I don't know what the USAF calls TCA's because i have only worked on and seen the NATO version. The only thing in the USAF that I have seen that was similar was a C-135 which wasn't capable of offloading fuel. Thanks again for the videos!!!

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Thought I'd post a couple of my pics. Enjoy!
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Great pics once again, Sagar!
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Sagar, sweet pictures. You are one lucky SOB with all of the different airplanes you have been able to fly in. Someone should have told me when I was younger that if I wanted to fly I should become a professional photographer.

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Hahaha! I wish! Yeah, I have been very lucky to flown on a few planes, but it's a combination of luck and being at the right place at the right time.

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Sagar, those are some sweeeet pics again. The Fat Albert pic should be on airliners.net. Edwards AFB has to put on a great show every year with all the different hardware there. Did they have their show this year already? If not I bet it will be awesome seeing how this year is the USAF 60th anniversary. One discrepency though, the pic you have labled as a Dutch F-16 is USAF.
Some of the F-16's at Edwards are the planes that were destined for Pakistan but were never delivered because of Pakistan's nuclear testing.
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Sagar, those are some sweeeet pics again. The Fat Albert pic should be on airliners.net. Edwards AFB has to put on a great show every year with all the different hardware there. Did they have their show this year already? If not I bet it will be awesome seeing how this year is the USAF 60th anniversary. One discrepency though, the pic you have labled as a Dutch F-16 is USAF.
Some of the F-16's at Edwards are the planes that were destined for Pakistan but were never delivered because of Pakistan's nuclear testing.
I have seen airliners.net. But I've heard they are a pain to deal w/ and to have images screened. I do have a few pictures on jetphotos.net Here's one of my most popular ones.

JetPhotos.Net Photo » 87-0331 (CN: 5C-592) United States - US Air Force (USAF) General Dynamics F-16C Fighting Falcon by Sagar Pathak

EDW did not have a show this year. Which is unfortunate as they put on a great event. Yeah, I know the label and the pic look off. I think it was 2005 or 2006 when I took that picture, and the demonstration was flown by the Dutch Demo pilot, including the distinctive "Smokewinder" missle system on the wingtips. Something you'll never see on any USAF/USN F-16's. But instead of bringing one of their birds over, they just hopped into one of the EDW birds and flew the demo in that. USAF on the outside, but Dutch on the inside. And that was one sweet demo. The Viper West team had to follow them, and it was just pitiful. The Dutch are allowed to do so much more manuvering wise in their demo. It was in afterburners the whole time.

Oh, and a couple of those Pakistan -16's also ended up at the TOPGUN school at Fallon, NV.
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Ah, makes sense now. Were you in a KC-135 when you took that pic of the Thunderbirds? Or were you in an F-16? If you were in a 16 I'll be officialy envious of you.
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I was in a -135....but it depends on who i am telling the story too. If they know nothing about planes, then I'll tell then I was in an F-16, inverted going in the opposite direction......and just as we passed, I clicked the shutter! Usually they have their mouths dropped at that point. Then I laugh a bit and move on. Sinister I know!

Speaking of the Pakistani F-16s, here's a couple of them now....

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Truly cool shots and thanks for sharing!

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What a great formation! It'd be perfect to see an F-15E in place of one of the F-16s though.
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This shot is tough to beat! Just amazing! Thanks again!

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I was in a -135....but it depends on who i am telling the story too. If they know nothing about planes, then I'll tell then I was in an F-16, inverted going in the opposite direction......and just as we passed, I clicked the shutter! Usually they have their mouths dropped at that point. Then I laugh a bit and move on. Sinister I know!
I was wondering about it too but then you'd have to be in a F-16B/D to make that shot happen if your "story" was right.
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Champ, was the Nordholz pic of the Bone shot from an E-3A?
Just reminded me... Here's one of my videos of the E-3A showing it on landing (what a rough one!) and another E-3A on take off.
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Now that's a cool video!!! I wish we had clouds like that out here....they add so much to the scene! Great stuff!

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I saw a few of those F-16's @ Kirtland. They were parked across the ramp from us. It was an awesome trip. I had air-air refueling shots of NY ANG F-16's, Navy F-16's and F-5's on the ground and to top it off Air Force One @ Stewert ANG Base because Bush was speaking at the UN. I get home load the pics on my PC and about a week later my hard drive goes up in smoke. I was pretty pissed. I still have it just in case anyone can figure out how to fix it. I love those aggressor schemes, they're pretty bad a$$. Where were you when you took that pic? NAS Fallon? Wherever it is it looks very hot with the way those C-130's are so distorted in the background.
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Sorry I just read your previous post again and in it you told me where the pic was taken. DOH!
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Only the begining. T-bird #8 came in yesterday and these 7 came in today. Tomorrow they will do a practice show and I will hopefully have some cool surface-air pics to show. Sagar, how do you post your pictures in such a large format?

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