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Old 09-02-2011, 01:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There is amazing news that there is a good chance that the legendary British-Aerospatiale Concorde may once again fly! A former concorde engineer inspected the engines of one at LeBourget and said it was in good shape! There's the link to the article!
Concorde may fly again for 2012 Olympics (Wired UK)
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This is an old story, written over a year ago and nothing has been heard about this idea since. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting to see a Concorde fly again, as great as that would be.
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There's still a chance, and it is a good idea
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the article is old news, but there is a shimmer of hope that we may get to see her fly again, if not maybe BA will get an A388 early and do a low flyover
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Well, hope this historic plane fly once again...
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This is an old story, written over a year ago and nothing has been heard about this idea since. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting to see a Concorde fly again, as great as that would be.
It is an old report from 2010, but there are updates on the 'resurrection' of G-BOAC [ HERE ] which are from around March 2011.

Although the Heritage Concorde may be able to get that aircraft started, they still have to test fly it and get it certified for flight. Then there is the insurance, which I understand is astronomical. My fear is the latter would reduce the chance of flight to a mere shimmer.

Then, after the Olympics in 2012, what is the fate of G-BOAC? Storing a non-flying version of Concorde is expensive, never mind a flying one. Look at what is happening to Fox-Alpha at Filton [ HERE ]. There are some frightening rumours floating around regarding this one, for sure, and one includes the scrap yard.

Would I like to see Concorde fly again? Perhaps, but not if it puts the aircraft in future jeopardy. Ultimately, given the way the corporate funding world works today, I'd prefer Concorde be displayed static with electrical power-up capabilities only (wherever possible).

As far as F-BTSD (Sierra-Delta) in Le Bourget is concerned, I'd be happy just to walk through it, AND be able to walk around the original flight prototype in their purpose-built hangar.

Without a doubt, the 'future' came and went with Concorde, and the survivors represent Man's finest moment of aviation design -- still -- hence why 'Sierra-Delta' remains the cherished centerpiece of my collection.
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It is an old report from 2010, but there are updates on the 'resurrection' of G-BOAC [ HERE ] which are from around March 2011.

Although the Heritage Concorde may be able to get that aircraft started, they still have to test fly it and get it certified for flight. Then there is the insurance, which I understand is astronomical. My fear is the latter would reduce the chance of flight to a mere shimmer.

Then, after the Olympics in 2012, what is the fate of G-BOAC? Storing a non-flying version of Concorde is expensive, never mind a flying one. Look at what is happening to Fox-Alpha at Filton [ HERE ]. There are some frightening rumours floating around regarding this one, for sure, and one includes the scrap yard.

Would I like to see Concorde fly again? Perhaps, but not if it puts the aircraft in future jeopardy. Ultimately, given the way the corporate funding world works today, I'd prefer Concorde be displayed static with electrical power-up capabilities only (wherever possible).

As far as F-BTSD (Sierra-Delta) in Le Bourget is concerned, I'd be happy just to walk through it, AND be able to walk around the original flight prototype in their purpose-built hangar.

Without a doubt, the 'future' came and went with Concorde, and the survivors represent Man's finest moment of aviation design -- still -- hence why 'Sierra-Delta' remains the cherished centerpiece of my collection.
Also look at the struggle the Vulcan group have every year to finance keeping it flying. I can't imagine the funds being made available to keep a Concorde going in the current climate. I still think they were too quick to drain the Concordes of vital fluids and remove engines etc. That's one cost that could have been kept minimal with a view to flying one again some day.

It's a pipe dream at best, I'd love to see one take to the air again, wierder things have happened but somehow I don't see it.
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Also look at the struggle the Vulcan group have every year to finance keeping it flying. I can't imagine the funds being made available to keep a Concorde going in the current climate. I still think they were too quick to drain the Concordes of vital fluids and remove engines etc. That's one cost that could have been kept minimal with a view to flying one again some day.

It's a pipe dream at best, I'd love to see one take to the air again, wierder things have happened but somehow I don't see it.
In the cold light of day, I too have to resign myself to your same conclusion. (*sigh*)

I am aware of the struggle it took to get the Vulcan restored to flying condition, then to limited flying. A Herculean task, to be sure.

I think, in the case of Concorde, the sheer technical nature of the aircraft combined with the nature of the parts required, then the blood-sucking insurance costs will likely keep Concorde grounded for some time to come. I could be wrong on all of this, but that is my suspicions anyhow.

I also suspect that if a group of enthusiasts get one of these up, those who want Concorde grounded permanently (airlines, manufacturers, environmentalists, etc, etc) will be put in a hard place through public pressure to admit that the cancellation of Concorde may have been a bit premature, and would rather they didn't have to deal with it. Just my opinion, of course.

My feeling is the 'age of Concorde' is over, for the time being. When Boeing 'shopped' the virtues and merits of Sonic Cruiser (a Mach .98 version of a delta airliner) around, the airlines all were clear that they wanted aircraft that afforded them a higher margin -- hence the Dreamliner was born. No one was interested in a (near) supersonic prestige machine. (*pity*)

My advice to any 'Concorde nut' is to visit them while you can -- touch 'em, walk through 'em, get your flight DVDs, and take all the photos you can, because that will be the best many of us will be able to achieve in this era. Fortunately many of us older guys here have seen them takeoff, land, and for some of the lucky few like myself, even got the chance to look down on one in flight. I saw an AF one off the coast of England in 1997 as it was heading west doing its morning run to NYC (I suspect that was the destination), as I was heading towards Paris. Of course, the luckier ones among us have even flown on them. I missed that.


PHOTO: The image above is an accurate reconstruction of what I saw off the south coast of England one morning looking straight down through the clouds as I was on the way to Paris. I'll never forget THAT experience. It lasted about 2 seconds! (Yes -- that is my Concorde BTSD in the shot)
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Some nice sentiments there and a great photo too. Although I never flew on Concorde, I was lucky enough to get onboard two of them and get a good look round, including into the cockpit. I also managed to see Concorde fly several times over the years, including this picture I took at Edinburgh Airport, departing to London during the UK farewell tour in 2003.

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VERY lovely photo, Al!! I'm extremely envious, as I've never seen Concorde THAT close up (or inside - yet - for that matter). Our next trip to Paris (hopefully very soon) will afford me some intimate time with Sierra Delta and the Proto.

You just gotta know I'm going to ask this . . . do you have that one in diecast??
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Ah yes that was a great moment, if you look closely you can see the crowds of people against the fence and the tv satellite van, thousands turned up to say farewell. Funniest thing was when after she departed a Dornier turboprop called up ATC for takeoff clearance and asked if Concorde had left yet ? The somewhat sarcastic reply was " Yes but if you put your foot down you'll catch up in no time !" Lol. As for the diecast, well it's G-BOAE and I do have it.
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Ah yes that was a great moment, if you look closely you can see the crowds of people against the fence and the tv satellite van, thousands turned up to say farewell. Funniest thing was when after she departed a Dornier turboprop called up ATC for takeoff clearance and asked if Cwoncorde had left yet ? The somewhat sarcastic reply was " Yes but if you put your foot down you'll catch up in no time !" Lol. As for the diecast, well it's G-BOAE and I do have it.
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She may not be flying any longer, but I have the next best thing at the Intrepid Air and Space Museum here in NYC. I visit a couple of times a year. It's amazing to walk around and get up close to all the details of the aircraft. Every part says "built for speed"!.
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She may not be flying any longer, but I have the next best thing at the Intrepid Air and Space Museum here in NYC. I visit a couple of times a year. It's amazing to walk around and get up close to all the details of the aircraft. Every part says "built for speed"!.
Do they still have that thing sitting on a barge on the river?? No chance of a walk-through, eh?

My wife is trying to coerce me to visit NYC, but everything is gearing towards Paris first. NYC and Washington (FA) are next though.
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It was moved off the barge onto land a couple of years ago. And YES one has full access in and around the AC. Worth the trip to the museum just for that. I have some pics to dig up and post.
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It was moved off the barge onto land a couple of years ago. And YES one has full access in and around the AC. Worth the trip to the museum just for that. I have some pics to dig up and post.
Nor a prank---she's on dry land for all to marvel!
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the one in New York had the nose cone snapped off by a large truck that got too close while awaiting final placement..It happened a few years ago while sitting at Roosevelt Air Station LI NY...

I was luck enough to fly concorde 3 times including a charter flight to Jamaica..we did a low pass over MO BAY and landed to a very large crowd!

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It really saddens me to see such a stupid mistake (if it was) for one of these planes. They should be taking better care of it and storing it with more proper care. It would have less of a chance of that happening if it was in my back yard.

You are very lucky to have gotten to fly on such an amazing aircraft. How was the experience?

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Yeah I went to the NYC museum a few years ago, amazing experience to be next to such a lovely aircraft
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Speaking of which, I went to the Smithsonian in Washington last weekend where another concorde is stored! She really stands out in compared to all those other planes!
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