Well that's protectionism at its best.. That's no surprise, but from a European point of view i have to ask: Are Europeans better in this case? NO, not at all!!
Just look at the A400M for example.. I can understand that Boeing was preferred, it is utopistic or very idealistic to say that the origin and the producer of a product don't play a role in souch a decision..
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Protectionism is absolutely ok, when the government officially declares, what kind of industry is protected by it. But to play free market, while there is none, is a farce.
Well that's protectionism at its best.. That's no surprise, but from a European point of view i have to ask: Are Europeans better in this case? NO, not at all!!
Just look at the A400M for example.. I can understand that Boeing was preferred, it is utopistic or very idealistic to say that the origin and the producer of a product don't play a role in souch a decision..
If this was about protectionism, then the US DoD would not have awarded the tanker contract to EADS/NG in the first place back in 2008.
The primary issue is the fact that the DoD awarded a tanker contact to EADS/NG in 2008 against different criteria from what it had presented in its original RFQ, which was the criteria that Boeing had used when it offered the DoD the 767-tanker earlier in the decade.
If this was about protectionism, then the US DoD would not have awarded the tanker contract to EADS/NG in the first place back in 2008.
The primary issue is the fact that the DoD awarded a tanker contact to EADS/NG in 2008 against different criteria from what it had presented in its original RFQ, which was the criteria that Boeing had used when it offered the DoD the 767-tanker earlier in the decade.
It's a lost cause, MrMD11. Many people have strong opinions on this that will never change.
It's a lost cause, MrMD11. Many people have strong opinions on this that will never change.
So... Boeing's original proposal gets kicked out owing to insider dealing and rule breaking...Airbus/Northrop's proposal gets lauded around publically until someone decides it's also dodgy because Airbus 'ain't American'... Boeing get's back in because 'they're Americain'...
Did I get that right or is that just how it smells ?
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So... Boeing's original proposal gets kicked out owing to insider dealing and rule breaking...Airbus/Northrop's proposal gets lauded around publically until someone decides it's also dodgy because Airbus 'ain't American'... Boeing get's back in because 'they're Americain'...
Did I get that right or is that just how it smells ?
I refer you to my earlier post in order to answer your question.
This farce is over.
I'm very glad that Airbus backed off.
I hope that the european governments will keep this episode in mind next time they have to buy military stuff, but i am sceptical since most are on Washington's payroll.
Great day for stockholders and Americans. Happy to see more American metal supporting America's men and women on the front line, even if the KC-45 was scrapped. They will have a chance to compete for the KC-10 replacement contract, and I suspect they will have a good chance of winning it.
Great day for stockholders and Americans. Happy to see more American metal supporting America's men and women on the front line, even if the KC-45 was scrapped. They will have a chance to compete for the KC-10 replacement contract, and I suspect they will have a good chance of winning it.
lol! no kidding !
They will be the only one to bid, so it doesn't take a Harvard degree to guess what is the outcome.
Thank god SCAREBUS gave in they should leave building planes to the pros such as Boeing, sukhoi, Mig, and lockheed cause they can't build planes such as the a340, a330, a320 family here's a joke what do you call a Airbus? (a boomerang it leaves the gate but it keeps on coming back to it)
Thank god SCAREBUS gave in they should leave building planes to the pros such as Boeing, sukhoi, Mig, and lockheed cause they can't build planes such as the a340, a330, a320 family here's a joke what do you call a Airbus? (a boomerang it leaves the gate but it keeps on coming back to it)
Try again when you're 19 ...
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Thank god SCAREBUS gave in they should leave building planes to the pros such as Boeing, sukhoi, Mig, and lockheed cause they can't build planes such as the a340, a330, a320 family here's a joke what do you call a Airbus? (a boomerang it leaves the gate but it keeps on coming back to it)
This statement = epic fail.
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Thank god SCAREBUS gave in they should leave building planes to the pros such as Boeing, sukhoi, Mig, and lockheed cause they can't build planes such as the a340, a330, a320 family here's a joke what do you call a Airbus? (a boomerang it leaves the gate but it keeps on coming back to it)
And it would be best you leave jokes to the pros because i fail to see the funny part in your post, or maybe one has to be 12 yrs old to understand your humour.
Or maybe your whole post is a joke, because it means absolutely nothing.
Do they have schools in Minnesota ?
Thank god SCAREBUS gave in they should leave building planes to the pros such as Boeing, sukhoi, Mig, and lockheed cause they can't build planes such as the a340, a330, a320 family here's a joke what do you call a Airbus? (a boomerang it leaves the gate but it keeps on coming back to it)
WTF does a 17 year-old know about any of this? The fact that you listed THE BIGGEST BOOMERANG of all, Lockheed, is proof that you have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. You Fan-boys amuse the crap out of me though.
Thank god SCAREBUS gave in they should leave building planes to the pros such as Boeing, sukhoi, Mig, and lockheed cause they can't build planes such as the a340, a330, a320 family here's a joke what do you call a Airbus? (a boomerang it leaves the gate but it keeps on coming back to it)
Ok, for producing nothing but air and being Boeing's BIGGEST FAN, here is your award:
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Northrop said that while it had "substantial grounds" to make a complaint, it would not, as it did not wish to further delay the tanker replacement programme.
What might those 'substantial grounds' be then ?
And might I say that whilst I do not have a problem with a 'pro-American' stance when it comes to supporting industry, I do think it's a sad day when within a global economy, a situation can be engineered to create an 'anti-european, anti-the rest of the world' scenario. Especially given the fracas created by Boeing's initial proposal for the KC-767 tankers.
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Thank god SCAREBUS gave in they should leave building planes to the pros such as Boeing, sukhoi, Mig, and lockheed cause they can't build planes such as the a340, a330, a320 family here's a joke what do you call a Airbus? (a boomerang it leaves the gate but it keeps on coming back to it)
The A320 and A330/A340 families are two of some of the most successful Aircraft families on the market. "By the end of February 2010 a total of 6,539 aircraft of the A320 family have been ordered and 4,181 delivered."
What an amature manufacturer You can't post false statments just because you're biased.
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And it would be best you leave jokes to the pros because i fail to see the funny part in your post, or maybe one has to be 12 yrs old to understand your humour.
Or maybe your whole post is a joke, because it means absolutely nothing.
Do they have schools in Minnesota ?
Minnesota has some of the best schools in the nation
Minnesota has some of the best schools in the nation
And by the looks of it, you didn't attend ANY of them. Remember kid, when you open your mouth, you'd better be able to back it up with some cold, hard facts.
EADS and Northrop give up
