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Old 02-04-2017, 08:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tu-144S CCCP-77107 on ebay, yet what abaout Kazan City Center then?

Here it is guys ,

This is really strange, most say that this Tu-144S CCCP-77107 was moved to Kazan City Center, but seeing it on ebay is confusing...

Thus this makes me wonder how is this even possible?
Russian Tu 144 SST Airliner | eBay



Tupolev Tu-144S Conkordski
Aeroflot CCCP-77107
Scale 1:1
Tupolev

Had to post this , not something you'd come across every day, that ebay even allows such things to be listed. just amazed!

I will try to find more info about this and keep you all updated, still makes no sense.
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Default Re: Scale 1:1 Tupolev Tu-144S CCCP-77107 on ebay lol

I know I'm in a minority, but to me the Tu144 is by far the better and graceful looking of the two SSTs.

I think this video is of the same aircraft featured in the eBay post.

https://youtu.be/tIFjvMjzBNg
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I know I'm in a minority, but to me the Tu144 is by far the better and graceful looking of the two SSTs.

I think this video is of the same aircraft featured in the eBay post.

https://youtu.be/tIFjvMjzBNg
And yes that video is this same exact aircraft :col:

Herpa Wings also made a 1:400diecast model of this exact Tu-144S; The CCCP-77107:

Tupolev Tu-144S
Aeroflot CCCP-77107 The Famous Tu-144S
On display at University of Aerospace, Kazan, Russia
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I can't agree more man TU-144 is my faved aircraft of all time, two of my friends help renovate the CCCP-77106 in Monino, they gave me the permission to use this photo one of them made for me as banner for my Facebook page but also as wallpaper


They even liked me as I also gave credit to their fantastic working for keeping the beauty intact,imo Herpa Wings or any other diecast model company should make a diecast model of the Tu-144S CCCP-77106, here a lovely video of this beauty


Also how many Concorde fans tends to take abuse of the 1973 incident saying that the design of the u-144S was the cause of the crash, totally incorrect, it did the dive all because of the French Air Force Mirage III-S that was trying to make espionage photo's of the Tu-144S CCCP-77102's Canards, the Russian Tu-144S pilot did a dive to avoid the French spy and had to pull up doing a 90 degree pulled up turn to try and get the Tu-144S to level flight, the G-Forces toe it apart, a Concorde would also crash in this situation, this had nothing to do with the design of the Tu-144S it's self all other Tu-144S aircraft never crashed.

The Tu-144D that crashed; the CCCP-77111; this was because of an emergency landing that went wrong so as Concorde goes Tu-144 is tied with Concorde.
Tu-144 looks more impressive, the designs looks better even being especially for high speed runs, it had a much greater cruise speed of Mach 2.3.
It's ultimate max was actually never achieved, many speculate that the max speed of the Tu-144 was around Mach 2.4 a 2.6.
So far the fastest the Tu-144S flown was Mach 2.3 as where the Tu-144LL with NK-321 Tu-160 Blackjack Engines achieved Mach 2.35.

Anyways I really hope someone does a Tu-144S CCCP-77106 @ 1:200 & 1:400, it's the one Tu-144 that should of been made over all the others.
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One of my most prized models is my 1/100 Tu144 research aircraft. I understand that the real one is an engineless hulk these days. Thanks for posting those pictures and the video link.

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That is the Tu-144LL btw, looks nice
Is that one from Westway Models?

As the real LL goes no it still has all of it's RK-35-51A engines, here a video of it:


Here's my LL from Herpa Wings

Tupolev Tu-144LL
Tupolev - NASA - Boeing - TSAGI
RA-77114
Scale 1:200
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Here my SST Collection's thread for more photo's:
http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ollection.html
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I know I'm in a minority, but to me the Tu144 is by far the better and graceful looking of the two SSTs.

I think this video is of the same aircraft featured in the eBay post.

https://youtu.be/tIFjvMjzBNg
As much as I like the Tu-144, I disagree



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I personally prefer the DC-8 as my favorite SST. It reached Mach 1.01....in an intentional shallow dive...but it counts!

But the Concordski was beautiful like the Concorde. The canards with the nose down always looked so friendly, like a dog, reminds me of Snoopy somehow.

Looking at this 1:1 scale model, I believe this model manufacturer needs to step up their game and fix the wing mould, it looks a bit off, and maybe the gear too. And don't get started on the nose! And how is the plastic casing and box? Surely they must have glued in the aerials correctly; don't want them falling off during transit!
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I personally prefer the DC-8 as my favorite SST. It reached Mach 1.01....in an intentional shallow dive...but it counts!

But the Concordski was beautiful like the Concorde. The canards with the nose down always looked so friendly, like a dog, reminds me of Snoopy somehow.

Looking at this 1:1 scale model, I believe this model manufacturer needs to step up their game and fix the wing mould, it looks a bit off, and maybe the gear too. And don't get started on the nose! And how is the plastic casing and box? Surely they must have glued in the aerials correctly; don't want them falling off during transit!
Nah that doesn't count, SST means Super Sonic Transport, an aircraft that can fly supersonic during a horizontal flight, dives are just dives, they have nothing to do with anything SST based , but nice try tho
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Wow! What a cool find. I have mixed feeling about moving historic artifacts like this. The west has pillaged so much 20th century material history, I'd love to see something like this Tu-144 stay in the east.
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That is the Tu-144LL btw, looks nice
Is that one from Westway Models?
No, I've no idea of the maker, its very well detailed and finished, but definately not a Westway one.

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Nah that doesn't count, SST means Super Sonic Transport, an aircraft that can fly supersonic during a horizontal flight, dives are just dives, they have nothing to do with anything SST based , but nice try tho
By that definition it is a TSS, a transport that went supersonic.

It does count as first commercial aircraft to ever reach supersonic in 1961. Not the Concorde, not the TU-144, just a DC-8-43. Wasn't designed for Mach 1 but it survived, and it wasn't just any old dive. Took it up to 52,000, reached Mach 1 around 45,000 and recovered at 35,000. Rugged Douglas product, shame it's not in a museum.

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By that definition it is a TSS, a transport that went supersonic.

It does count as first commercial aircraft to ever reach supersonic in 1961. Not the Concorde, not the TU-144, just a DC-8-43. Wasn't designed for Mach 1 but it survived, and it wasn't just any old dive. Took it up to 52,000, reached Mach 1 around 45,000 and recovered at 35,000. Rugged Douglas product, shame it's not in a museum.

I Was There: When the DC-8 Went Supersonic | Page 1 | History | Air & Space Magazine
That plane should be in a museum I agree, even that it did a dive it doesn't fully count as a SST since it can't fly Supersonic in a horizontal flight
But off the record, it does count as the first civil aircraft that went Supersonic with a dive, but other than that it's still doesn't make that DC-8-43 a SST.

So here my verdict:

All what this DC-8-43 is, is a Subsonic Airliner that went Supersonic thanks to the help of Downward Terminal Velocity aka a dive
Anyone else could of done that and achieved that same the same how the German Pilots said they reached Mach 1.00 with their ME-262's with a dive same theory.

And it's super cool they achieved a supersonic speed with the help of a dive, but overall that does not make these planes supersonic aircraft.
It's mainly thanks to Downward Terminal Velocityfrom a very high altitude, which gives these aircraft a chance to reach Mach 1+ and that is basically what took place.

Still an interesting article though, thanks for sharing
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