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Old 10-28-2016, 08:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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At Chicago O'Hare, American 767 catches fire on runway - CNN.com
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The plane, which had stopped well before the end of the runway, had about 43,000 pounds of fuel on board.

There wasn't much yelling or screaming, he told reporters, except passengers who shouted at others who were trying to grab their bags from the overhead bins.

Schiavone said about 30 seconds into the evacuation, smoke started to pour into the cabin. The difficulty in breathing was the scariest part, he said.

Asked whether he was afraid he was going to die, Schiavone said, "Of course. I'm thinking the plane is going to blow up."

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Hmm. If you are very, very near 43,000 pounds of fuel and there's an engine fire and smoke entering the cabin. I advise you to get the 'F' off the plane ASAP!

There was no yelling or screaming? Well in my books if you are shouting at somebody, is it not the same as yelling? Like = You frigging idiot! Leave you carry on baggage in the bins and get your sorry butt to the emergency exits NOW!! Looks like it's a global thing when evacuating passengers think their belongings in the overhead bins are worth more than other passengers lives!! I really wish some of the passengers that were delaying the evacuation to reach up into the bins to get their heads slapped around by those passengers they were delaying! Pisses me off!
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Old 10-29-2016, 04:43 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The plane, which had stopped well before the end of the runway, had about 43,000 pounds of fuel on board.

There wasn't much yelling or screaming, he told reporters, except passengers who shouted at others who were trying to grab their bags from the overhead bins.

Schiavone said about 30 seconds into the evacuation, smoke started to pour into the cabin. The difficulty in breathing was the scariest part, he said.

Asked whether he was afraid he was going to die, Schiavone said, "Of course. I'm thinking the plane is going to blow up."

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Hmm. If you are very, very near 43,000 pounds of fuel and there's an engine fire and smoke entering the cabin. I advise you to get the 'F' off the plane ASAP!

There was no yelling or screaming? Well in my books if you are shouting at somebody, is it not the same as yelling? Like = You frigging idiot! Leave you carry on baggage in the bins and get your sorry butt to the emergency exits NOW!! Looks like it's a global thing when evacuating passengers think their belongings in the overhead bins are worth more than other passengers lives!! I really wish some of the passengers that were delaying the evacuation to reach up into the bins to get their heads slapped around by those passengers they were delaying! Pisses me off!
Why should people do that! They are in danger, as well as youself. Are you want to die because of that stupid luggage? I don't understand those people
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Old 10-29-2016, 12:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Why should people do that! They are in danger, as well as youself. Are you want to die because of that stupid luggage? I don't understand those people
I totally agree with you!

I don't see why the airlines can't implement a locking feature on the overhead bins? The FA will switch it on during an emergency evacuation which this particular incident definitely meets. They can make an announcement when the evacuation starts = All overhead bins have been automatically locked for your well being along with your fellow passengers, please make your way to the nearest emergency exit. Thank you for flying with Columbia Airlines!

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I totally agree with you!

I don't see why the airlines can't implement a locking feature on the overhead bins? The FA will switch it on during an emergency evacuation which this particular incident definitely meets. They can make an announcement when the evacuation starts = All overhead bins have been automatically locked for your well being along with your fellow passengers, please make your way to the nearest emergency exit. Thank you for flying with Columbia Airlines!

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Thank you to all of the flight attendants who did a great job getting passengers deplaned.
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It's a shame this was one of the younger 767s in the fleet. I don't think that the airframe can be saved. Then again, BA and Boeing were able to restore the 777-200 in Vegas to service.
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Thank you, sir!

But, I can probably bet the farm that the number reason why airlines won't ever implement the 'locking overhead bins' system = is due to $$$$$. The airlines pushback = it will cost to much to install the overhead bin locks on all our planes; and it adds extra weight to the aircraft.

My guess based on past aviation events that ended in human loss, it will take another airplane on fire sitting on the tarmac where human lives are lost from smoke inhalation and not evacuating the plane in time, all due to other passengers trying to retrieve their luggage and clogging up the aisles. Airlines are more 'reactive' than 'proactive' concerning safety protocols.
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Thank you, sir!

But, I can probably bet the farm that the number reason why airlines won't ever implement the 'locking overhead bins' system = is due to $$$$$. The airlines pushback = it will cost to much to install the overhead bin locks on all our planes; and it adds extra weight to the aircraft.

My guess based on past aviation events that ended in human loss, it will take another airplane on fire sitting on the tarmac where human lives are lost from smoke inhalation and not evacuating the plane in time, all due to other passengers trying to retrieve their luggage and clogging up the aisles. Airlines are more 'reactive' than 'proactive' concerning safety protocols.

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My concern is that Airlines will base themselves on armchair internet air safety experts expertise and eventually remove all overhead lockers.
Sad world we live in.
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My concern is that Airlines will base themselves on armchair internet air safety experts expertise and eventually remove all overhead lockers.
Sad world we live in.
I don't think removing the overhead bins will 'Fly' with the Airlines. No pun intended.

Sad reality and facts; based on 1st hand passenger accounts and videos from the 2 most recent evacuations (EK B777 in Dubai and AA B767 in Chicago).

There are passengers who deem their laptops, tablets, passports, phones, etc. as more valuable to them than the safety of other passengers who are listening to the cabin crew to get the heck off the plane ASAP.

I think Airlines that conduct onboard evacuation drills for their new cabin crew trainees should also add this to their drills = a few selfish passengers that are grabbing their belongings from the overhead bins and blocking the flow of exiting passengers. I wonder how many of these 'overhead bin' drills would pass the FAA 90 second evacuation drill certification tests?

Your personal belongings can all be replaced. Human lives not so much.
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It's a shame this was one of the younger 767s in the fleet. I don't think that the airframe can be saved. Then again, BA and Boeing were able to restore the 777-200 in Vegas to service.
The BA 777 was not damaged to the extent this aircraft was.

On one of the youtube vids of the evac as pax cone down the slides you can hear the engine spooling down.Which is the lesser of the two evils getting sucked into an engine or smoke and fire inhalation.
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