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Old 04-03-2016, 09:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Opinions on why they didn't sell better?
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Old 04-03-2016, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The 767-400ER costs $200.8 Million US. With $206 Million you could of bought the 787-8, which holds less people than the 767-400ER, but it can fly farther and it uses less fuel than the 767-400ER.

The 757-300 cost $80 Million US (2002), and the 757-200 cost $65 Million (2002). The -200 can hold 200 people, two classes, and the -300 can hold 243, two classes. So you are spending an extra $15 Million US to add an extra 43 people. You could use the extra $15 Million and buy a Q300 instead and you could have 56 passengers with the Q300.
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Shame... the 767-400 looks the best of the 767 family... guess it just came along too late with the 787 arriving shortly after...
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One of the biggest drawbacks of the 764 was that it could only carry specifically designed containers in the cargo hold due to the design, thus making it far less attractive to fleet planners looking for commonality and ease of operations. The 787 never competed with the 764 as it wasn't even offered until 4 years after 764 EIS. The A330 was a much more suitable aircraft at the time and most airlines who didn't wish to order new aircraft operated their 763s in higher density configurations.
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Let's not forget the effect the 772 had on potential sales of the 764. I believe several orders were converted to the 772 (Kenya Airways springs to mind) late 90's. So it's not just the 747 that Boeing 'killed' within it's own product line with the 777.
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The short answer is, the Airbus A330-200 was a better choice for airlines!

The long answer was that only two airliners, Continental & Delta requested it to replace their ageing DC-10 or L-1011 fleets with this newer 767 model. But when it comes to fuel capacity the 400ER had less of it than the 300ER, so in other words the 400ER has more seats than the 300ER but less range!

That's where the Airbus A330-200 came as the true winner, carrying about the same amount of passengers but with a much better range than the 767-400ER. Plus the A330-200 is the second most successful wide bodied Airbus after the A330-300.
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The short answer is, the Airbus A330-200 was a better choice for airlines!

The long answer was that only two airliners, Continental & Delta requested it to replace their ageing DC-10 or L-1011 fleets with this newer 767 model. But when it comes to fuel capacity the 400ER had less of it than the 300ER, so in other words the 400ER has more seats than the 300ER but less range!

That's where the Airbus A330-200 came as the true winner, carrying about the same amount of passengers but with a much better range than the 767-400ER. Plus the A330-200 is the second most successful wide bodied Airbus after the A330-300.

Excellent reply. Thank you.
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