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Old 05-19-2015, 01:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Some people actually think so. Read the linked article and decide for yourself.

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Good article - photography in an airport or on the plane is 'iffy', and more so all the time. A camera is often a magnet for airport security personnel, and it's just not worth it. In that regard, I'm a 'retired' photographer. Sad, but that's where we are... Keep 'em flying, Doug
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It's a sad state of affairs as highlighted in this quote in the article by Nancy Nelly; "...I have gotten very good at not drawing attention to myself because I know that my travel schedule is subject to the whims of the flight attendants.” In my experience, I have rarely had any issues with taking photos at airports or on aircraft. I have been told not to photograph on two or three occasions and immediately accepted that and apologised without argument. Also you should restrict your photos to selfies, family photos or take photos of aircraft, and definitely not of other people you don't know or infrastructure.

Of course even following those guidelines doesn't guarantee a good and proper outcome. Here's a selfie I took on an Alaska Airlines B739 between LAX and SEATAC earlier this year. I call it ; the unintended consequences of a selfie :

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The first piece about the man who photographed an AA jet is ridiculous and that gate agent should be ashamed of herself for going on such a power trip. The JetBlue one I can understand where the crew were coming from, however throwing him off the flight is a bit much. It's a sad world if you can't even take a photo on an airline without somebody labelling it a security breach.
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At my place of work, there are signs posted about taking photographs of planes. I have taken many pics at work and have nothing ever said to me. I even have some of Air Force2 but for sure will not post those on any social media.

Here is a great video shot and posted by a airline employee.
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Some employees get a little too sensitive about people taking photographs. I understand not wanting to be filmed but if someone is filming your interaction with them or another passenger then tough. You should assume you are always being filmed. Some cops are learning that the hard way these days.

I'm used to being recorded. In fact, I see it as a blessing. I don't like the idea of a he said/she said argument. Pulling a tape uncovers what really happened very quickly. If someone wants to have a policy prohibiting photography then you need to actually write a policy rather than give blanket discretion.

Some airlines are very clear on jumpseating that photography is strictly prohibited at all times (so including outside the flight deck). That's fine. Plus, if I'm jumpseating then I'm a guest of the airline and the captain so I have no right to anything. Now, if I was just a regular guy standing in an unrestricted public area that just wanted to take a picture then I would expect to see a policy that prohibits my photo unless its a safety sensitive area.

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I've had very few issues and when I fly, I do take A LOT of pictures. I have been told to put my camera away for takeoff/landing which is common. I think FAs have been more relaxed on this more recently because I haven't had a problem in a while. On the other hand, places like CDG require a permit to photograph planes. Airport employees will definitely come up to you and tell you to stop.

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Never had any issues, then again I am very discreet. I've taken pictures on various planes in places you wouldn't believe. While airlines like United and American do have policies that restrict photography on their property (planes), the gate agent in that article had no right to stop that person, the most she could've done is grabbed someone who worked for DCA airport.
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Uh shucks, my favorite pastime on layover at DFW is snapping photos of the last few Mad Dogs still hard at work for AA. I'll be sure take a few more when I route through there on my way to ICT next week. Some of my favorite memories with my dad are when we were spotting 707s and stretch 8's at PDX along the river in the 70's. Times have certainly changed.
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I must admit I take pics of planes when waiting to board my flight; I try to make sure that no person is in the frame. I've done this on numerous occasions and never had any problems. Also, I've taken onboard photos with my family; again I do my best to ensure that no other passengers or crew are in the photos. Recently took some pics on Air China's B747-8.

However, I have had some unpleasant situations:

- onboard EK A380 (one FA shouted at me not to take anymore cabin pics; I obliged)

- on the tarmac in Bermuda; took a photo of the A320 we were about to board (ground crew individual barked at me to stop taking photos); interesting enough was that I was able to take tarmac photos of the plane when we arrived in Bermuda. Oh well, i guess it matters on who is on duty at the time.

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"I must admit I take pics of planes when waiting to board my flight." Yeah, me too... This descriptive, not artful image taken at PVD this week. Interesting livery upgrade - not convinced it's better than what it replaced. Keep 'em flying, Doug
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You're allowed to photograph any aircraft from a public area. Sure some people/airlines have a problem with it, hence why sometimes I see UA pilots pull up the shade to avoid getting photographed. I take shots and haven't had issues at all, and there isn't any rule that tells us we can't take pics.

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The aircraft themselves, I see no issue with that. You need to be sensitive towards flight crew and passengers, and ask before including them in a recognizable way in photographs. Taking photos of restricted areas when not making family snaps could of course be a recipe for trouble. Different situation but same goes for UK train stations, you will be prompted pretty quick to put the camera away if you try to start taking photos on a platform (personal experience).
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I am traveling to Hong Kong today and plan to take photos of the aircraft from the gate, and also inside (I usually like to show my family the view from my seat). I have been traveling for work for many years now and have only had one instance where I was told not to take photos. A couple of years ago, I was flying out of Madrid and was going to take a photo of the ramp view outside my window and an airport security guard who was on the plane (it was rather strange that there were two of them there) waved his finger at me. The guards remained on board until the boarding process was complete.

I've accumulated lots of photos over the years and hope that the tide is not turning to where photography will be prohibited!
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I am traveling to Hong Kong today and plan to take photos of the aircraft from the gate, and also inside (I usually like to show my family the view from my seat). I have been traveling for work for many years now and have only had one instance where I was told not to take photos. A couple of years ago, I was flying out of Madrid and was going to take a photo of the ramp view outside my window and an airport security guard who was on the plane (it was rather strange that there were two of them there) waved his finger at me. The guards remained on board until the boarding process was complete.

I've accumulated lots of photos over the years and hope that the tide is not turning to where photography will be prohibited!
I was at Hong Kong airport a few weeks ago and no problems taking some happy snaps. One guy was using his DSLR with no issues. The scale of that airport is amazing, one of my favourite.
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Working as a purser, I always work in First or Business Class on international flights. I have a lot of people who are flying in a premium cabin for the first time on their dream trip to Europe and they ask me if I'll take their picture in their seat, usually doing something like holding a glass of Champagne. I always say yes and take their picture. They're so excited! Why dampen their excitement? It's harmless enough.

But when someone is filming a video in the cabin, that's prohibited and it arouses suspicion in the crew.
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Working as a purser, I always work in First or Business Class on international flights. I have a lot of people who are flying in a premium cabin for the first time on their dream trip to Europe and they ask me if I'll take their picture in their seat, usually doing something like holding a glass of Champagne. I always say yes and take their picture. They're so excited! Why dampen their excitement? It's harmless enough.

But when someone is filming a video in the cabin, that's prohibited and it arouses suspicion in the crew.
AA and UA are two air carriers that make it clear in their inflight magazine that unauthorized photography of people without their permission is not allowed. Unfortunately there are airlines like JetBlue who have that policy written no where, but their workers sure will enforce it by kicking you off the plane/calling you a terrorist.
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It depends on what region of the world your in. For example in Hong Kong photography is encouraged and you will see many people taking pictures in the terminal of aircraft and everything related. Whereas in the Middle East photography is illegal in most parts of the airport. The only airline I have ever been asked to refrain from taking pictures on is UA.
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It is all a matter of respecting people's privacy. If you take photos of your friends and family, no worries, if by accident I am caught in the background, no issue. If you point a camera specifically at my wife or daughter (in any place) without permission, the next sound you would hear is your camera being crushed under my boot.
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It is all a matter of respecting people's privacy. If you take photos of your friends and family, no worries, if by accident I am caught in the background, no issue. If you point a camera specifically at my wife or daughter (in any place) without permission, the next sound you would hear is your camera being crushed under my boot.
...and then you'll go to jail and will definitely be sued. But you already knew that, didn't you?
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So what, as I wrote, as long as we are fairly unrecognizable in the background no problem. A deliberate attempt to include my family in a photo without our permission will result in me smashing the person's camera to bits, whatever the consequences of that might be. I take my privacy serious.
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So what, as I wrote, as long as we are fairly unrecognizable in the background no problem. A deliberate attempt to include my family in a photo without our permission will result in me smashing the person's camera to bits, whatever the consequences of that might be. I take my privacy serious.
I hope you realize that you, your family, or anyone does not have the expectation of privacy in public. Sorry bud, stay at home if you don't like the "big bad" camera. The Supreme Court has ruled that no one has the expectation of privacy in public and that you can video tape/take pictures of anyone/anything in public so long as you aren't making a profit off of it.
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Yes I know that and yes if I see you to this on purpose, you'd still be minus a camera.
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Yes I know that and yes if I see you to this on purpose, you'd still be minus a camera.
You must smash every CTV and security camera you see as well, right? Otherwise you are being a hypocrite.
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Read what I post before putting out unrelated drivel.

So what, as I wrote, as long as we are fairly unrecognizable in the background no problem. A deliberate attempt to include my family in a photo without our permission will result in me smashing the person's camera to bits, whatever the consequences of that might be. I take my privacy serious.
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Read what I post before putting out unrelated drivel.

So what, as I wrote, as long as we are fairly unrecognizable in the background no problem. A deliberate attempt to include my family in a photo without our permission will result in me smashing the person's camera to bits, whatever the consequences of that might be. I take my privacy serious.
Nah, you just don't want to admit you know the laws of either the US or Great Britain. When you smash that person's camera or lunge at them to take it, that person may indeed "fear for their life" and take whatever actions necessary to make sure you, the threat, is eliminated and out of commission. This will be done legally or better yet, a cop will be in the vicinity and the person will take the necessary steps to make sure you are locked up/pay big. They are not committing a crime, you are. Glad you enjoy breaking the law and taking other people's rights away.
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Unfortunately, we don't live in a country where you can just arbitrarily come up with your own excuses to justify the destruction of property. Your expectation of privacy in public areas is misguided.
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Unfortunately, we don't live in a country where you can just arbitrarily come up with your own excuses to justify the destruction of property. Your expectation of privacy in public areas is misguided.
Couldn't agree more.
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