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Old 09-30-2014, 05:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well, looks like Air Canada has followed suit with WestJet on charging for checked-in luggage on particular flights/class. Now they are going to ensure that your carry-on luggage will comfortably fit in the overhead bins. Gotta love that 1st photo of the man cramming/jamming his carry-on into the metal frame prior to checking in at the gate. Something tells me the overhead bins are going to fill up much faster than before, due to all the passengers trying to circumvent the checked-in luggage fees. Also, boarding is gonna take a bit longer going forward.; which in turn should cause some delays in departing the gate.

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MONTREAL - Air Canada has begun a trial program at Toronto's Pearson International Airport to ensure that passengers bring only carry-on baggage that will fit into overhead bins.
The airline posted additional staff at the domestic and transborder departure areas at Pearson Tuesday to ensure travellers check their over-sized bags and prevent them from being carried on board.

The trial, which has no announced end date, comes after the Montreal-based carrier announced earlier this month that it will begin charging a $25 fee for the first checked bag on its lowest-class domestic flights and on flights to and from the Caribbean and Mexico. The fee comes into effect on Nov. 2.
Air Canada has charged for a traveller's first checked bag on U.S.-Canada transborder routes since 2011.

"This will also facilitate an orderly transition to the implementation of a domestic first checked bag fee beginning in November," said spokeswoman Isabelle Arthur.

Transport Canada rules allow passengers to carry on two unchecked items. Air Canada specifies that a personal item can include a backpack, briefcase or laptop computer measuring up to 16 by 33 by 43 cm, and a standard item such as a suitcase measuring up to 23 by 40 by 55 cm including wheels and handles. Those travelling with an infant on their lap can carry on an additional standard article.

Arthur said there are no immediate plans to extend the trial program to other Canadian airports.
Meanwhile, WestJet Airlines said it isn't stepping up surveillance of what passengers bring on board its aircraft ahead of the introduction of its own checked baggage fee Oct. 29.

"No change for us," said spokesman Robert Palmer. "We have always made the announcement about carry-on needing to fit in the sizing devices, and we do ask people to put their bags in the device to make sure it will fit."

The Calgary-based airlines is also introducing a $25 first checked bag fee on all flights operated by WestJet and its regional airline Encore within Canada and to the United States. The fee will not apply to flights to Mexico, the Caribbean, Central America and Europe.

WestJet chief financial officer Vito Culmone recently said it expects the new fee could reduce checked bags by 20 to 30 per cent, based on experience of other airlines.
Both airlines expect the new baggage fee will affect about 20 per cent of passengers.
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Old 09-30-2014, 06:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, looks like Air Canada has followed suit with WestJet on charging for checked-in luggage on particular flights/class. Now they are going to ensure that your carry-on luggage will comfortably fit in the overhead bins. Gotta love that 1st photo of the man cramming/jamming his carry-on into the metal frame prior to checking in at the gate. Something tells me the overhead bins are going to fill up much faster than before, due to all the passengers trying to circumvent the checked-in luggage fees. Also, boarding is gonna take a bit longer going forward.; which in turn should cause some delays in departing the gate.

Full article here:
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/ai...172320657.html

MONTREAL - Air Canada has begun a trial program at Toronto's Pearson International Airport to ensure that passengers bring only carry-on baggage that will fit into overhead bins.
The airline posted additional staff at the domestic and transborder departure areas at Pearson Tuesday to ensure travellers check their over-sized bags and prevent them from being carried on board.

The trial, which has no announced end date, comes after the Montreal-based carrier announced earlier this month that it will begin charging a $25 fee for the first checked bag on its lowest-class domestic flights and on flights to and from the Caribbean and Mexico. The fee comes into effect on Nov. 2.
Air Canada has charged for a traveller's first checked bag on U.S.-Canada transborder routes since 2011.

"This will also facilitate an orderly transition to the implementation of a domestic first checked bag fee beginning in November," said spokeswoman Isabelle Arthur.

Transport Canada rules allow passengers to carry on two unchecked items. Air Canada specifies that a personal item can include a backpack, briefcase or laptop computer measuring up to 16 by 33 by 43 cm, and a standard item such as a suitcase measuring up to 23 by 40 by 55 cm including wheels and handles. Those travelling with an infant on their lap can carry on an additional standard article.

Arthur said there are no immediate plans to extend the trial program to other Canadian airports.
Meanwhile, WestJet Airlines said it isn't stepping up surveillance of what passengers bring on board its aircraft ahead of the introduction of its own checked baggage fee Oct. 29.

"No change for us," said spokesman Robert Palmer. "We have always made the announcement about carry-on needing to fit in the sizing devices, and we do ask people to put their bags in the device to make sure it will fit."

The Calgary-based airlines is also introducing a $25 first checked bag fee on all flights operated by WestJet and its regional airline Encore within Canada and to the United States. The fee will not apply to flights to Mexico, the Caribbean, Central America and Europe.

WestJet chief financial officer Vito Culmone recently said it expects the new fee could reduce checked bags by 20 to 30 per cent, based on experience of other airlines.
Both airlines expect the new baggage fee will affect about 20 per cent of passengers.
If you want to solve the in cabin problem, it should be required that anyone who brings two pieces on the aircraft MUST put one under THEIR own seat. That would leave enough room for all.
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If you want to solve the in cabin problem, it should be required that anyone who brings two pieces on the aircraft MUST put one under THEIR own seat. That would leave enough room for all.
True, you might be able to fit some of the smaller carry-ons under the seat.

I was watching the local Toronto news this evening, and they were showing some YYZ passengers that were instructed to fit their carry-ons into that metal frame. The passengers weren't happy and the dialog between the AC staff and the passengers were not pleasant. One passenger threatened to sue AC if any of his items were damaged while he forcefully crammed his carry-on into that metal frame.

Looks like AC and WestJet are going to rake in another 50-70 million dollars in baggage fees over a 1 year time frame with their new policies.
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You know, looking in hindsight, it seems like the smarter thing to do when you started charging for luggage is to charge for carry-on luggage and not checked. They spend so much effort now trying to get people to gate check their bags, people of course never want to, and then you come close to taking delays because everyone is still standing trying to find bin space. Plus, you gotta love the people who just toss their bag in the first bin they see so that way everyone else can then be forced to find bin space away from their seat too to make deboarding extra special.
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I would agree crack down on the carry luggage. After flying Air Canada this past September some of the carry on bags had to be literlally jammed into the bin and there was no hope of them fitting under the seat. This is where the problem lies.
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My view is that aircraft have luggage holds, use them. The size of some carry on bags is outrageous, maybe they ought to redesign smaller narrowbodies to have underfloor /aisle compartments accessible from each seat that can take a reasonable sized bag if the hold space is going unused...
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You know, looking in hindsight, it seems like the smarter thing to do when you started charging for luggage is to charge for carry-on luggage and not checked.
100% agree. The number of passengers with multiple oversized carry on bags is outrageous. One woman on a recent flight had five bags, plus her supersized purse. Her husband had three, plus his man purse.
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