Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing - Page 4 - DA.C
 

Go Back   DA.C > Local Control > 1:1 Scale Commercial Aviation
Supported by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 03-11-2014, 08:57 PM   #151 (permalink)
Keyboard Pilot
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,055
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Since the beginning, I doubt the theory that explain the aircraft had a 180 degree turn and heading west.

Doing a search in Malacca Straits or even further Andaman Sea, is the same with agreeing that the aircraft flying dark without transponder crossing the Malaysia Peninsula. Crossing the peninsula may need 15-20 minutes before reaching Malacca Straits or Northern Sumatera, and then Andaman Sea.

It should have been captured by military radar (if the civilian radar was not able to detect it since the transponder is off), and on the western side of the peninsula, in Penang, is located the TUDM/RMAF Butterworth Air Force Base, where all the TUDM F-18s, TUDM F-5s and sometimes the P-3 RAAFs are there. But, the military radar missed this plane. Something went wrong.
__________________
You want to make a background check of a seller? Contact me, maybe I can give a name of the con-artist.....
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
aritrixa is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 03-11-2014, 09:23 PM   #152 (permalink)
"Hello Moto"!
 
T7_4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by DC8-dude View Post
i cannot understand why something as important as the transponder can simply be turned off with the flick of a switch!
I am a bit baffled as well. You think that this would be automatically controlled by the plane's computer (no human intervention required), once the plane was airborne the transponder 'switch is turned' on by the onboard computer and remains on (nobody on board can overide it manually to turn it 'off') until the plane touches down at it's destination airport. Can someone explain why this would NOT be feasible? Thank you, T7

Last edited by T7_4ever; 03-11-2014 at 10:23 PM.
T7_4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 10:01 PM   #153 (permalink)
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,726
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

there has to be human involvement, I'd think - to change the code . no?
AnonCollector is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 03-11-2014, 10:10 PM   #154 (permalink)
"Hello Moto"!
 
T7_4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnonCollector View Post
there has to be human involvement, I'd think - to change the code . no?
Yeah, I agree with you on 'changing the code' part by the pilots. But, having a feature on the plane's computer that will ensure that the transponder will never be turned off during it's flight.

Last edited by T7_4ever; 03-11-2014 at 10:19 PM.
T7_4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 10:54 PM   #155 (permalink)
"Hello Moto"!
 
T7_4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Don't know if this was shared on the DAC? This is interesting:

Crowdsourcing volunteers comb satellite photos for Malaysia Airlines jet

You -- the person now reading this story -- can help experts solve the mystery of what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which disappeared over the open sea.



In fact, thousands of aspiring good Samaritans are volunteering their time to scour part of the plane's search zone using detailed satellite images posted online by DigitalGlobe, a Colorado firm that owns one of the world's most advanced commercial satellite networks.


So many volunteers have joined the effort that the firm's website -- with its pinpoint pictures of everything floating in the ocean -- has crashed.
It is a busy week for "crowdsourcing," the Internet phenomenon where information is gathered from John and Jane Q. Public -- people like you -- and from your social media postings.

"This is a real needle-in-the-haystack problem, except the haystack is in the middle of the ocean," Luke Barrington of DigitalGlobe told CNN affiliate KMGH. "I will ask you to mark anything that looks interesting, any signs of wreckage or life rafts."
DigitalGlobe's satellite photos taken 400 miles above the Gulf of Thailand can capture a detail as small as a home plate. The challenge is finding the manpower to scour 1,235 square miles of such images on one of DigitalGlobe's websites, Tomnod.com -- with more pictures to be posted this week from satellites above the Strait of Malacca, said Abby Van Uum, an Edelman publicist retained by DigitalGlobe.

That's where crowdsourcing comes in.
"In many cases, the areas covered are so large, or the things we're looking for are so hard to find, that without the help of hundreds of thousands of people online, we'd never be able to find them," Barrington said.
One volunteer, Mike Seberger, 43, found a fascinating image in a matter of minutes: the silhouette in the ocean has the scale of a Boeing 777-200, the same model of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
His discovery can be seen on his CNN iReport page, which is also a form of crowdsourcing used by CNN.

DigitalGlobe and tomrod.com offer their satellite photos of ocean in crowdsourcing effort.


"At first, I skipped past it, thinking, 'Nah. No way I would find anything that quickly,' " Seberger told CNN on Tuesday. "But then I kept scrolling back to it and thinking to myself, 'It does resemble a plane....'
"I played with the zoom on my browser a bit, and took a screenshot at 200%, which is what I uploaded" to CNN iReport, said Seberger, a manager of information technology in the Chicago area.
But Seberger does have his doubts: "Looking at it objectively, the shape of 'my' object appears plane-like and the dimensions are consistent with a 777-200. That said, I feel it is more likely to be a boat."
DigitalGlobe and the Tomnod.com website officials have yet to respond to his flagging of the curious image. "Their site is getting slammed, apparently, because about half the time that I try to access it, I get an error page, and sometimes even though I log in, no map loads," Seberger said Tuesday. "The site got slammed like healthcare.gov."
Company officials weren't available to respond to CNN's requests for a comment Tuesday.

In response to the Malaysia Airlines plane's disappearance, DigitalGlobe activated its subscription service to emergency managers, which provides online access to satellite images before and after the incident, the firm said on its website. The photos are used for emergency response, damage assessment and recovery.
The company performed a similar "global crowdsourcing campaign" in November's Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines, allowing volunteers to tag online more than 60,000 objects of interest from satellite photos. The information was forwarded to emergency responders, the firm said.

The firm also tracked damage last year in the Moore, Oklahoma, tornado and the Colorado floods. In another case, the satellite imagery also helped locate the remains of two missing hikers in Peru, the affiliate reported.
The firm, based in Longmont, also uses geospatial big data, which is "information and insight taken from imagery and derived from various sources such as social media," the firm said.

The company used the technology in satellite images of the recent Sochi Olympics in Russia and cross-referenced the photos with social media data "to analyze overall activity, linguistic composition and mood for people around Sochi," the firm said.
T7_4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 11:36 PM   #156 (permalink)
Aviation Geek
 
A Tupolev's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 6,659
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Is there a DAC Mod that can pull the two Malaysia 777 missing threads together. On most forums this would have happened by now.
A Tupolev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 11:52 PM   #157 (permalink)
I Love Beagles
 
DC-10_Tony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: New Lenox, IL
Posts: 2,355
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

I like this thread because Malaysia is spelled correctly.
DC-10_Tony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2014, 11:53 PM   #158 (permalink)
"Hello Moto"!
 
T7_4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Tupolev View Post
Is there a DAC Mod that can pull the two Malaysia 777 missing threads together. On most forums this would have happened by now.
Yes, that would be most appreciated. But, I thought the DAC Mod was unable to perform moderator duties, due to an unfortunate health situation. Was there a backup assigned?
T7_4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 02:48 AM   #159 (permalink)
Keyboard Pilot
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,055
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

It might worth to share here as well.

MH370 - what happened
__________________
You want to make a background check of a seller? Contact me, maybe I can give a name of the con-artist.....
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
aritrixa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 02:58 AM   #160 (permalink)
Callum - 1:200 collector
 
callume190's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London/Woolwich
Age: 21
Posts: 2,316
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

That could well be the explanation we were looking for
If so passengers would have known what was happening as they were unconscious
__________________
Callum
19
1:200 scale diecast model collector
U.K. based

British airlines and aircraft I’ve flown on collector
callume190 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:07 AM   #161 (permalink)
Master Collector
 
TOGAselected's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 824
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by aritrixa View Post
It might worth to share here as well.

MH370 - what happened
Best theory ive read so far but falls down on one small detail.

I believe the MH 777s do not have SATCOM antennas fitted.
__________________
Flown - Trident, BAC1-11, A300, A319, A320, A321, A332, A333, A343, A345, A346, A388. B717, B722, B732, B733, B734, B735, B73G, B783, B752, B753, B762, B763, B764, B742, B744, B772, B77E, B77L, B773, B77W, B788, CRJ7, D6, D81, D84, AT4, AT7, MD82, MD83, Tristar, Cessna 208.
TOGAselected is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:25 AM   #162 (permalink)
Master Collector
 
TOGAselected's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 824
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

I understand Romeo Oscar was scheduled to do MH370/371 KUL-PEK-KUL the previous day but these were canceled and she spent the day on the ground at KUL.

I'd love to know what the issue was - must have been fairly serious to cx the flight because Romeo Oscar went tech?
__________________
Flown - Trident, BAC1-11, A300, A319, A320, A321, A332, A333, A343, A345, A346, A388. B717, B722, B732, B733, B734, B735, B73G, B783, B752, B753, B762, B763, B764, B742, B744, B772, B77E, B77L, B773, B77W, B788, CRJ7, D6, D81, D84, AT4, AT7, MD82, MD83, Tristar, Cessna 208.
TOGAselected is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:43 AM   #163 (permalink)
Keyboard Pilot
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,055
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Good info, TOGA!
Yep, that might be a serious issue on Rome Oscar. Mind to share the source of info?

As for the antennas:
I believe there are anttenas on 9M-MRO, but I am not sure whether they are SATCOMs antennas, or VHFs, etc. Would any of you enlighten me, please

__________________
You want to make a background check of a seller? Contact me, maybe I can give a name of the con-artist.....
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
aritrixa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 04:19 AM   #164 (permalink)
Master Collector
 
TOGAselected's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 824
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

They aren't satcom - the usual radio vanes and sensors, satcom is a larger fairing.

http://blog.apex.aero/cms/wp-content...77-540x300.jpg

Believe satcom is the aft smaller bump, stand to be corrected.
__________________
Flown - Trident, BAC1-11, A300, A319, A320, A321, A332, A333, A343, A345, A346, A388. B717, B722, B732, B733, B734, B735, B73G, B783, B752, B753, B762, B763, B764, B742, B744, B772, B77E, B77L, B773, B77W, B788, CRJ7, D6, D81, D84, AT4, AT7, MD82, MD83, Tristar, Cessna 208.
TOGAselected is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 04:48 AM   #165 (permalink)
Keyboard Pilot
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,055
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Thanks, TOGA!!
__________________
You want to make a background check of a seller? Contact me, maybe I can give a name of the con-artist.....
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
aritrixa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 05:15 AM   #166 (permalink)
B747 Junky
 
StarAllianceFlyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,205
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Doesn't make sense, as I believe the relatives tried to call after when the fuel would have ran out.

Also, if they did pass out from decompression and the autopilot is engaged, wouldn't they have flown over Vietnam and have records of the aircraft over their airspace?
__________________

StarAllianceFlyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 05:23 AM   #167 (permalink)
Clipper Spaghetti Western
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Mt Pleasant Sth Australia
Posts: 3,995
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Perhaps, just perhaps I say that only now we are finding out there's another Bermuda Triangle.
QFA388 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 06:19 AM   #168 (permalink)
Master Collector
 
TOGAselected's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 824
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by StarAllianceFlyer View Post
Doesn't make sense, as I believe the relatives tried to call after when the fuel would have ran out.

Also, if they did pass out from decompression and the autopilot is engaged, wouldn't they have flown over Vietnam and have records of the aircraft over their airspace?
I believe the aircraft made a turn after "the event" and began to descend.

All the signs fit a pressurisation issue followed by crew hypoxic incapacitation - BUT the transponders and comms going dark. That's an issue.

Cabin depressurisation event that knocks out the antennas for radio/transponders/ACARS comms?

It fits.
__________________
Flown - Trident, BAC1-11, A300, A319, A320, A321, A332, A333, A343, A345, A346, A388. B717, B722, B732, B733, B734, B735, B73G, B783, B752, B753, B762, B763, B764, B742, B744, B772, B77E, B77L, B773, B77W, B788, CRJ7, D6, D81, D84, AT4, AT7, MD82, MD83, Tristar, Cessna 208.
TOGAselected is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 06:40 AM   #169 (permalink)
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,726
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

That's where I was back at reply148 - hypoxia or incapacitation due to smoke makes sense, but the same initiating event needs to knock out the transponder.
AnonCollector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 06:43 AM   #170 (permalink)
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,726
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by aritrixa View Post
It should have been captured by military radar (if the civilian radar was not able to detect it since the transponder is off), and on the western side of the peninsula, in Penang, is located the TUDM/RMAF Butterworth Air Force Base, where all the TUDM F-18s, TUDM F-5s and sometimes the P-3 RAAFs are there. But, the military radar missed this plane. Something went wrong.
The whole story that the Malaysians can't keep straight, about the turn back to the Strait, seems to be based on picking up something from that military radar. Maybe there are different radar signatures from that night that they are having trouble definitely identifying.

Quote:
Originally Posted by StarAllianceFlyer View Post
Doesn't make sense, as I believe the relatives tried to call after when the fuel would have ran out.
Relatives calling and getting ring tones may not be a sign of anything.
AnonCollector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 07:23 AM   #171 (permalink)
Keyboard Pilot
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,055
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

What else can possibly cause all the electronics out?
Ram Air Turbine malfunctioned?
__________________
You want to make a background check of a seller? Contact me, maybe I can give a name of the con-artist.....
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
aritrixa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 09:49 AM   #172 (permalink)
B747 Junky
 
StarAllianceFlyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,205
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by TOGAselected View Post
I believe the aircraft made a turn after "the event" and began to descend.

All the signs fit a pressurisation issue followed by crew hypoxic incapacitation - BUT the transponders and comms going dark. That's an issue.

Cabin depressurisation event that knocks out the antennas for radio/transponders/ACARS comms?

It fits.
So, the last ditch effort by the pilot was to disengage the autopilot, maybe try to get to a lower altitude and return to KL, but passes out before he could fit his own oxygen mask on.

With the AP disengaged, how could it remain in the air for more than an hour (I think). And if they were able to get to a lower altitude couldn't the crew and passenger have recovered...or would it take a bit longer to recover?

Guess it could happen, considering it happened to that one golfer (and I forget his name) and his plane eventually crashed after running out of fuel.
__________________

StarAllianceFlyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 10:26 AM   #173 (permalink)
"Hello Moto"!
 
T7_4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by StarAllianceFlyer View Post
Guess it could happen, considering it happened to that one golfer (and I forget his name) and his plane eventually crashed after running out of fuel.

His name was Payne Stewart. T7
T7_4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 11:01 AM   #174 (permalink)
Insane Collector
 
aae991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,248
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

All the speculation about the SATCOM and AD being issued on the 777 still does not work out considering posts 161 and 163 above. That being said, there are now stories and purported messages from an oil rig worker who claims to have seen an aircraft on fire at about the right time and location as MH370's disappearance. To make matters even worse the Malaysian authorities seem really disorganized and confused on what to do. They should encourage (assuming they are) other countries to take the lead in the investigation and make use of more sophisticated resources.

As an aside, in 1994 I was INVITED into the cockpit for takeoff from Narita to KL on a MH 744 (I was in the upper deck and was the first one back on the plane after a stop at Narita). It was quite the shock and pleasure to be a part of this. Further, during the flight another passenger and I were allowed to sit in the cockpit for an hour and chat with the captain and first officer as we flew over the Philippines. We came back in for the landing at KL. I enjoyed this so much that I invited myself back in for the return flight on a MH 744 from KL to Narita. I was there for takeoff and a hands-free landing at Narita as the pilots showed off the skills of the 744... This was 1994 - times were different BUT in retrospect the pilots didn't know me from a hole in the wall. I had no business being in there. It was a life-long memory for me, but probably not great judgement from the flight crew. Yet we now read about the first officer doing just this again with passengers on a more recent MH flight... Assuming no passengers were in the cockpit on MH370, MH still needs to have a serious look at what their flight crews are allowing...

Last edited by aae991; 03-12-2014 at 11:04 AM.
aae991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 11:52 AM   #175 (permalink)
Callum - 1:200 collector
 
callume190's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London/Woolwich
Age: 21
Posts: 2,316
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

An oil rig worker still states he saw what looked like a plane falling from the sky on fire
You never know!
__________________
Callum
19
1:200 scale diecast model collector
U.K. based

British airlines and aircraft I’ve flown on collector
callume190 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 12:02 PM   #176 (permalink)
SVN4TSVN
 
Rockybudgeboa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NEWMARKET
Posts: 4,598
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Where did you hear that?
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Rockybudgeboa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 12:05 PM   #177 (permalink)
Insane Collector
 
aae991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,248
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Breaking News: Oil rig worker saw Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 go down: report - National | Globalnews.ca

Here you go...
aae991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 12:08 PM   #178 (permalink)
SVN4TSVN
 
Rockybudgeboa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NEWMARKET
Posts: 4,598
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Thank you
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Rockybudgeboa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 12:16 PM   #179 (permalink)
Senior Collector
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Vienna, VA
Age: 44
Posts: 220
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by aae991 View Post

As an aside, in 1994 I was INVITED into the cockpit for takeoff from Narita to KL on a MH 744 (I was in the upper deck and was the first one back on the plane after a stop at Narita). It was quite the shock and pleasure to be a part of this. Further, during the flight another passenger and I were allowed to sit in the cockpit for an hour and chat with the captain and first officer as we flew over the Philippines. We came back in for the landing at KL. I enjoyed this so much that I invited myself back in for the return flight on a MH 744 from KL to Narita. I was there for takeoff and a hands-free landing at Narita as the pilots showed off the skills of the 744... This was 1994 - times were different BUT in retrospect the pilots didn't know me from a hole in the wall. I had no business being in there. It was a life-long memory for me, but probably not great judgement from the flight crew. Yet we now read about the first officer doing just this again with passengers on a more recent MH flight... Assuming no passengers were in the cockpit on MH370, MH still needs to have a serious look at what their flight crews are allowing...
That was actually fairly common back in the day - especially for First and Business Class passengers in the Far East. My father used to torture me when he would return from Business Trips to HK and other locations, telling me about multiple rides in the cockpit on approach and departure from Kai Tak. He told me he would take me - never got around to it. But especially on Cathay - he would send his business card up to the flight deck via a FA, and would invariably be invited up for takeoff and/or landing.
Jeff H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 12:26 PM   #180 (permalink)
Insane Collector
 
aae991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,248
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff H View Post
That was actually fairly common back in the day - especially for First and Business Class passengers in the Far East. My father used to torture me when he would return from Business Trips to HK and other locations, telling me about multiple rides in the cockpit on approach and departure from Kai Tak. He told me he would take me - never got around to it. But especially on Cathay - he would send his business card up to the flight deck via a FA, and would invariably be invited up for takeoff and/or landing.
Interesting... I remember asking the captain if it was okay. His response was "we're not in the United States. We can invite whoever we want into the cockpit". Who was I to refuse? I took video of the landing in Narita with the hands-off touchdown. The flight crew thought it was great that I recorded it. I was even allowed to listen into ATC from the jump seat. It was an amazing experience that I'll always remember.
aae991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 01:24 PM   #181 (permalink)
1:400 collector
 
Gimala's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: London
Age: 20
Posts: 911
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Maybe it was an fire in the electrical compartment.
__________________
Check out The Nerdy Student
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
!
-----------------
Recently obtained

- Gemeni Jets BA 787-9
Gimala is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 01:26 PM   #182 (permalink)
1:400 collector
 
Gimala's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: London
Age: 20
Posts: 911
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by aae991 View Post
As an aside, in 1994 I was INVITED into the cockpit for takeoff from Narita to KL on a MH 744 (I was in the upper deck and was the first one back on the plane after a stop at Narita). It was quite the shock and pleasure to be a part of this. Further, during the flight another passenger and I were allowed to sit in the cockpit for an hour and chat with the captain and first officer as we flew over the Philippines. We came back in for the landing at KL. I enjoyed this so much that I invited myself back in for the return flight on a MH 744 from KL to Narita. I was there for takeoff and a hands-free landing at Narita as the pilots showed off the skills of the 744... This was 1994 - times were different BUT in retrospect the pilots didn't know me from a hole in the wall. I had no business being in there. It was a life-long memory for me, but probably not great judgement from the flight crew. Yet we now read about the first officer doing just this again with passengers on a more recent MH flight... Assuming no passengers were in the cockpit on MH370, MH still needs to have a serious look at what their flight crews are allowing...
I don't think thats allowed now, after 9/11.
__________________
Check out The Nerdy Student
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
!
-----------------
Recently obtained

- Gemeni Jets BA 787-9
Gimala is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:07 PM   #183 (permalink)
Kiwi Collector
 
ascari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: KUL/AKL
Posts: 347
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

The inevitable..
ascari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 03:50 PM   #184 (permalink)
Insane Collector
 
aae991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,248
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by ascari View Post
The inevitable..
??? What's inevitable?
aae991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 04:20 PM   #185 (permalink)
Complete Wacko!
 
Garuda747400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,170
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Interesting read, The guy who reported this seems to have a good sense of direction and know what hes talking about, Hes nailed just about everything needed to find it within a metre.

I hope they are looking this up fast.

I think it makes sense to be where the oil rig reporter says it is,
__________________
WANTED

Aeroclassics Garuda Indonesia F28

Last edited by Garuda747400; 03-12-2014 at 04:35 PM.
Garuda747400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 04:23 PM   #186 (permalink)
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: FL370
Posts: 2,122
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill-ay View Post
Don't even try bro! Just like Janek is the authority on how to rip others photos off, I am the authority on how to get banned on this site!
Wow so you're actually still jealous that I am a highly skilled photographer. Yes, it is possible that someone younger than you can be so much better. I don't even know how it came to people assuming I was stealing anything.
Jan Jasinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 04:34 PM   #187 (permalink)
Complete Wacko!
 
Garuda747400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,170
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Any info about this oil worker report on national news?
__________________
WANTED

Aeroclassics Garuda Indonesia F28
Garuda747400 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 04:39 PM   #188 (permalink)
Insane Collector
 
aae991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,248
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan Jasinski View Post
Wow so you're actually still jealous that I am a highly skilled photographer. Yes, it is possible that someone younger than you can be so much better. I don't even know how it came to people assuming I was stealing anything.
Enough already - let it go guys... This is a thread about a tragedy, not about petty arguments and name calling.
aae991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 06:20 PM   #189 (permalink)
Callum - 1:200 collector
 
callume190's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London/Woolwich
Age: 21
Posts: 2,316
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Possibly a crash site found but not confirmed
Missing Malaysia Airlines flight live: Passenger who boarded missing jet on stolen passport 'was 19-year-old Iranian emigrating to Germany' - Mirror Online
__________________
Callum
19
1:200 scale diecast model collector
U.K. based

British airlines and aircraft I’ve flown on collector
callume190 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 07:19 PM   #190 (permalink)
Banned
 
Mike777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TX
Posts: 3,616
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan Jasinski View Post
I don't even know how it came to people assuming I was stealing anything.
Maybe because you posted a thread with a bunch of pictures you claimed were yours, then someone else posted a link to the real photographer's website which contained a portfolio full of the very same pics? Yeah, we remember.
Mike777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 07:23 PM   #191 (permalink)
Junior Collector
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: in a building
Posts: 5,968
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jan Jasinski View Post
Wow so you're actually still jealous that I am a highly skilled photographer. Yes, it is possible that someone younger than you can be so much better. I don't even know how it came to people assuming I was stealing anything.
__________________
LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80/MD-11/IL96/IL86/TU154/TU134/AN2/LANDOR/ZAMBIA/N911NA/747100/RB211


IF YOU HAVE ANY HASEGAWA QUESTIONS PLEASE DIRECT THEM HERE
Bill-ay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 07:24 PM   #192 (permalink)
Junior Collector
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: in a building
Posts: 5,968
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike777 View Post
Maybe because you posted a thread with a bunch of pictures you claimed were yours, then someone else posted a link to the real photographer's website which contained a portfolio full of the very same pics? Yeah, we remember.
That was a real gem of a thread. Need to find that one again.
__________________
LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80/MD-11/IL96/IL86/TU154/TU134/AN2/LANDOR/ZAMBIA/N911NA/747100/RB211


IF YOU HAVE ANY HASEGAWA QUESTIONS PLEASE DIRECT THEM HERE
Bill-ay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 07:41 PM   #193 (permalink)
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: FL370
Posts: 2,122
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike777 View Post
Maybe because you posted a thread with a bunch of pictures you claimed were yours, then someone else posted a link to the real photographer's website which contained a portfolio full of the very same pics? Yeah, we remember.
No, it was a website called WIX.com which gave templates and you were supposed to replace it with your own photos. That's what it was, and I linked that template with my photos, and then someone found that template and linked it. Don't know how you still don't believe this even with all of MY photos across the net, and proof of me taking them
Jan Jasinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 07:43 PM   #194 (permalink)
"Hello Moto"!
 
T7_4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Hmmm. Another turn of events. China has just released sat images of possible wreckage parts. Images were shot last sunday, and from the position/coordinates of the images of the parts - roughly the same area where the plane had lost contact with the world. I guess Chinese officials wanted to make sure this was possibly the real deal; that's why the 4 day delay? But, I think they should have stepped up and informed Search parties about the area/location last sunday (so what if it was a false alarm, at least they would be there to see it for themselves and not grainy images from photos); man, 4 day delay = is not good; possible crash evidence could have floated away even further.

Last edited by T7_4ever; 03-12-2014 at 07:52 PM.
T7_4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 09:10 PM   #195 (permalink)
Kiwi Collector
 
ascari's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: KUL/AKL
Posts: 347
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by aae991 View Post
??? What's inevitable?
My spidey sense was tingling last night, I couldn't sleep. I got a sneaky suspicion that a major activity is brewing at the seas (both sites - Andaman Sea and South China Sea). Also, I received couple of heads up (body bags needed) from my mates who are actively involved in the Search and Rescue operation, which affirms my late night thought. That said though, I am still praying and hoping for the best (call me optimistic)..

Here's a nice info graphic from WP that explains the theory of MH370's diversion to the west.


Last edited by ascari; 03-12-2014 at 09:20 PM.
ascari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 09:18 PM   #196 (permalink)
Insane Collector
 
aae991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicago area
Posts: 1,248
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by ascari View Post
My spidey sense was tingling last night, I couldn't sleep. I got a sneaky suspicion that a major activity is brewing at the seas (both sites - Andaman Sea and South China Sea). Also, I received couple of heads up (body bags needed) from my mates who are actively involved in the Search and Rescue operation, which affirms my late night thought. That said though, I am still praying and hoping for the best (call me optimistic)..

Here's a nice info graphic from WP that explains the theory of MH370's diversion to the west.

Interesting... Do you think your contacts are holding back and/or not allowed to tell what they know? With all of the conflicting information out there it still sounds likely that someone took over the aircraft for some very sinister or demented reason. What a horrific tragedy.
aae991 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 09:50 PM   #197 (permalink)
Awaiting Email Confirmation
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,726
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gimala View Post
Maybe it was an fire in the electrical compartment.
Fire has always been as good a hypothesis as any, when most of our evidence is actually just an absence of evidence.
AnonCollector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 10:57 PM   #198 (permalink)
B747 Junky
 
StarAllianceFlyer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,205
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by T7_4ever View Post
Hmmm. Another turn of events. China has just released sat images of possible wreckage parts. Images were shot last sunday, and from the position/coordinates of the images of the parts - roughly the same area where the plane had lost contact with the world. I guess Chinese officials wanted to make sure this was possibly the real deal; that's why the 4 day delay? But, I think they should have stepped up and informed Search parties about the area/location last sunday (so what if it was a false alarm, at least they would be there to see it for themselves and not grainy images from photos); man, 4 day delay = is not good; possible crash evidence could have floated away even further.
Also saw that this morning in the news. Curious about the 4 days delay.
__________________

StarAllianceFlyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 11:31 PM   #199 (permalink)
"Hello Moto"!
 
T7_4ever's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

As they strongly emphasize that each hour is crucial after an aviation accident; a 96 hour delay is just so wrong in every possible way. The sat image location also coincides with the New Zealand gentleman working on the Oil Rig platform in the Gulf of Thailand. He stated he saw flames in the sky that night at around the same time communication was lost with MAS 370 .

Can someone explain/answer why the 'transponder' can't be built in a way so it can't be 'manually' disabled during flight? I could be wrong here, but having that transponder always on (when airborne), until external forces/events damage the thing... could help investigators pin-point last known location of the missing plane. Unlike the massive area that they've been combing through the last 4 days, and as illustrated above by ascari's illustrative post.

I mean here you have a $300+million dollar aircraft with state of the art aviation technology; but then all it takes is a simple flick of a switch (turn to 'off' position) for the transponder and now the plane has become 'stealth/unable to detect' to the Search parties (plane and sea).

Last edited by T7_4ever; 03-12-2014 at 11:44 PM.
T7_4ever is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-12-2014, 11:34 PM   #200 (permalink)
Aviation Geek
 
A Tupolev's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 6,659
Default Re: Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Quote:
Originally Posted by StarAllianceFlyer View Post
Also saw that this morning in the news. Curious about the 4 days delay.
The Chinese did not want to reveal their satellite spying capabilities. I'm sure they were hoping the search would find the plane before they had to play their hand with the photos.
A Tupolev is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:03 PM.

Latest Threads
 

Models of the Week
 



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2021 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.