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Old 05-18-2012, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A fellow ramp agent from a another ground handling company (swissport) succumb to his injuries at the hospital early this morning....from what i know he was pinned between a beltloader and the plane...he was airlifted to the nearest hospital but later died of his injuries....

It just shows us that working at the ramp is very dangerous,,,but what erks me most are some passengers dont appreciate the work we do all they think is getting on that plane sit and relax or make fun taking videos of ramp agents handling bags (lots of them on youtube),,,we work/slave on rain,snow,heat just to get passengers going. IMO its the most underpaid unappreciated job there is.... so when we push back your plane a simple wave or thumbs up is greatly appreciated...

sorry for the rant.....R.I.P

here is the link:CP24- Pearson employee dies after workplace accident

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Old 05-18-2012, 12:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 05-18-2012, 12:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm sorry for anyone who dies tragically . I don't think that most people are aware of
the hard work that baggage handler endure . It's like trash collectors or sewer workers . Tough jobs, however, they benefit everyone . The only things passengers see
out the window are what they see out the window ) . Keep doing your job and I hope
that it makes you happy because in the end, that's what its all about .


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Old 05-18-2012, 02:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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IMO its the most underpaid unappreciated job there is.... so when we push back your plane a simple wave or thumbs up is greatly appreciated..
Hold your horses there fella. A First Officer with Great Lakes or Silver Airways will take home around $14,000.00 their first year on the job, and their companies will work them for 10 full flight hours on a 14 hour duty day every chance they get. A lot more of them die each year doing their job, than rampies do...and there's easily 3 times as many of you.

I did 6 years as a ramper for a major airline and it was one of the funnest, easiest jobs I've ever had....be it in the de-ice bucket or driving connection bags during a snowstorm, or free-loading an L-1011 in the summer.

The job of a rampie shouldn't be appreciated or over paid. Get off your high horse now.

As for the poor fella who died, RIP. That IS sad.
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Hold your horses there fella.
The job of a rampie shouldn't be appreciated or over paid. Get off your high horse now.

As for the poor fella who died, RIP. That IS sad.
I did not say that we should be over paid or im winning about our job....all im saying is that have some respect about this type of job....among all people you should know that....

let see a guy working at Mcdonalds flipping burgers gets paid 12.00 minimum first year.
a ramp agent gets paid 10.25 handling million dollar equipment. first year.... hmmmm

i could @#$%* about how some pilots are thinking they have god like complex and so high on them selves but i will not...

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I did not say that we should be over paid or im winning about our job....all im saying is that have some respect about this type of job....among all people you should know that....

i could ***** about how some pilots are thinking they have god like complex and so high on them selves but i will not...
By stating that your job is underpaid and unappreciated, you're implying that you should be paid more, and respected/appreciated more. And, again, having done the job for 6 years, as well as many other jobs in aviation and other fields, I feel qualified to say it doesn't deserve anything other than what you're currently getting: a paycheck and up-close airplane action. Having said that, if I were to lose my job tomorrow, the first place I would go looking is back on the ramp...fun, easy, exercise, very little actual work, very little brain power required, and a sun tan in the summer. I loved it out there
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hmmm well i guess youre job is a mind reader eh it seems you know it all and the best part is" having done the job for 6 years, as well as many other jobs in aviation and other fields, I feel qualified to say"...tell you what lets pretend, why dont you qoute what you said about being a ramp agent to the dead mans wife and kids......im pretty sure shes going to appreciate your kind words " fun, easy, exercise, very little actual work, very little brain power required ".... and the best part " it doesn't deserve anything other than what you're currently getting" i dont know in BC but in Ontario the cost of living is going up and up, sometimes you have to take a second job to make ends meet

dude i know this man and he works his *** off so he can feed his family.... swissport's crewroom is just besides our crewroom so i bump to this guy once in awhile and have a little chit chat once in awhile

all im saying here is that respect this job... dont go puting someone's career down just because yours is better than the other guy.

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Man calm down. He is only referring to your rant about not being appreciated for throwing bags in a bag bin and pushing a plane off the gate to a open ramp. The cost of living is going up everywhere. But throwing bags and getting paid 10.00 seems about right. He didnt disrespect the dead man at all. And how did he put your career down when he use to do it and says he enjoyed it? Hate to hear about this man, How did he get stuck between the beltloader and plane?
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Old 05-18-2012, 04:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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dude the way this guys comes up,and the way he says it seems like..... but anyways all i know is this guy is gone just like that....i'm just stress out i guess....

it has something to do with the beltloader's hand brake as of now everything is scetchy its still under investigation. But basically he was pinned between the the plane and the beltloader.

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Sad to hear about the poor rampie, my thoughts are with his Family. I heard briefly on CBC Radio this morning that a baggage handler had been killed in an industrial accident at YYZ Terminal 1 this morning. Not a very common occurence but still a sad day. I have a great deal of respect for all Airport/Airline employees from the ramp to the cockpit. I've gotten a chance to meet some of the tug drivers, de-icers, baggage handlers, runway maintenance crew and so on. The GTAA always tries to promote the hard work of airport crews and show the public how important their jobs are through public events.

I have recently given some consideration to working as a rampie at Pearson. Doesn't seem like a very stressful or boring job and you don't have to deal with any snobby customers. You get to be on the ramp and up close to the action. I would rather load and move bags than flip burgers to make money. Maybe in a couple years to help with the Uni/Training fund. Seems like a nice job from what I've seen on the interweb, for an enthusiast I don't think you can get much closer!
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All the ground crew at every airport are underrated and not appreciated by the general public ! Pretty sad ! Only taken for granted .

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Old 05-18-2012, 07:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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It's always sad when someone you know suddenly dies, but this work apparently isn't tremendously stressful or complicated. Most accidents happen through a combination of carelessness and boredom/distraction, which is what this sounds like. I imagine these kinds of fatalities are very rare.
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All the ground crew at every airport are underrated and not appreciated by the general public ! Pretty sad ! Only taken for granted .

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WOW!!that's a stupid statement. And you know this because all of the studies and polls you have conducted on underrated and non appreciated ramp people.
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RIP, always sad when the aviation world loses one of it's own
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Very sorry to hear about the ramp agent. RIP. Was at YYZ all day today. Saw many Swissport ground staff moving around the airport doing their stuff.



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