justin

Hi all, just got home, stopping on the way to buy these two models from CDC in 1/48.

Me262 Nowotny, not at lot to say really other than to confirm my first impression on first seeing it in the shop that it is a first class model. Finish is excellent and it captures the look of te Me262 very nicely. They had a lot of Me262's, this was my favourite but the others were nice too.

Fw190, this is finished in winter camo, white with a green disruptive pattern, I was tempted by an all white one but decided this looked good too. The model is excellent in most respects, however I do have one major qualification to recommending this model, and that is to say te landing gear is too upright, almost vertical. This obviously didn't prevent me buying the model, and it's not as apparent as the P51 gear fault, but it is nevertheless wrong, CDC should correct it.

Looking forward to recieving the B25 now

Take care all,

Justin

justin

I've just had one of those funny co-incidences, I did some research into the Fw190 model I bought to find out about it, and it turns out to be the Fw190 of......... Nowotny! Now this shows my ignorance as I thought his Fw190 had a yellow cowl front, but apparentley not always. Now what are the chances of a co-incidence like this happening, buying two aircraft of the same pilot by accident? I'd btter go before I reveal more of my ignorance about one of the greatest pilots ever

Justin

Ozz

Hey Justin,
Fighter pilots are like women when it comes to what they wear, different theatre different paintjob. I'm sure he flew many others that even the history books don't know of. BTW I liked his 190 better than all of them, good choice.
I had a call from my retailer today who informed me that my Nowotny ME 262 and a Mossie had arrived, but I'll have to wait until next Wednesday to pick them up as the call came too late in the day, DOH! He also said I have six or seven 1:400's waiting as well, this is going to hurt! But pain is good, right?
Cheers

justin

Sounds like you have an expensive week coming up!

These things remind me of that scee in the film "Animmal House" (great movie!), it's as if there is a little cartoon angel in our brain saying "save money, don't be so crazy wasting so much money on models!!" while on the other side there's a cartoon devil saying "go on, mr. Visa card can afford it!!". Maybe this just means my mind has finally lost it......

The Fw190 certainly is a beautiful livery, I am sure you are going to be VERY happy with your Me262, take care!

Justin

egonzinc

Interesting!
The Nowotny Me262 looks very nice but its an interesting choice as he was not successful flying that particular type of plane.
I receive this week the Rudel Stuka and its soooo nice!
I have to keep going back to the different types available as Armour seems to release an initial group and then adds some more. If justin hadn't mentioned the (for me) FW190 I would have missed them.
E

Ozz

Hey E,
Which Rudel JU87 did you get, the tank buster with the 3.7cm cannon pods, or the dive bomber with the red spinner? I have the former and it's one of my favorites.
Did anyone do particularly well in the 262?
Cheers

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ORANGE IS BEAUTIFUL
GO WESTJET!!!
We need more CPAir/CDN and don't forget PWA and BA Landor!

Ozz

Justin,
I seem to have devils on both shoulders!
I believe with any addiction the first step to recovery is to face the fact and accept that you have a problem. I have not yet reached that stage.........I don't care what my wife says.

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Ozz

ORANGE IS BEAUTIFUL
GO WESTJET!!!
We need more CPAir/CDN and don't forget PWA and BA Landor!

justin

How right you are about this being an addiction!! This last year my wife has been in another country thousands of miles away, so I've been running riot, and have weeks left to think up a plausible story as to why the apartment has filled up with models while she's been away, it's great!!!!

About the Nowotny Me262, I guess as he was such a great pilot with a distinctive aircraft it is a model many will be interested in even though the great pilot was killed on his first combat sortie in a Me262. There is still a lot of controvery about his death, was he shot down or did he have a catastrophic mechanical failure? His last words were a garbled message containing the word burning. The history of the Nowotny Kommando is tragic reading, those early Me262's were death traps, as the German's were so desperate they did the final testing phase in squadron service.

A few pilots did achieve ace status on the Me262, Kurt Welter achieved over 20 kills with it, even Galland scored 7 of his kills in the 262.

Ed is right about it being hard to keep up to speed with this company as their marketing is so low key and their catalogue is terrible. I seem to get my news through these forums, a couple of friends here at home who also collect them and occasional visits to shops with a large stock. I wish CDC would set up a good web site with regular updates to keep us all informed!!

Take care,

Justin

egonzinc

Ozz, You are right who the hell did well in the Me262!!
I was not criticizing the selection by Armour, its the one I'm getting also!
On the Stuka, now I have to go back to the drawing board.
Didn't know there were TWO Rudels!
Ahhggg!!!!
I was expecting a tank buster with long cannons under the wings. When I opened the box and saw NO big guns , my first reaction was "I got the wrong model!!"
Then I checked the item number 98107 and it was identified as the Rudel where I get them so until now I didn't give it another thought.
So the one I have is the dive bomber and its interesting with the two tones of green etc look great
Which is the OTHER Rudel?
Do you have the item number to see if I find it?
Thx!
E

Ozz

Hey E, here's a good site for Armour 1:48
http://www.wingsandwheels.co.uk/aRMO...EL%20INDEX.htm

egonzinc

Ozz,
Thanks for the link!
There seems to be more models available than I thought!

Do you have the item number for the Rudel tank buster?
Thx
E

egonzinc

Ozz,
One more thing, do you orer from the site shown above?
Its in the UK and shipping costs would be high for me.
Prices shown are in Pounds and therefore much higher than prices with US retailers.
On the other hand there are models being offered that I had not seen elsewhere...
So its a "Catch 22" of sorts.
I imagine I could use this site as a "shopper" to find out what's available and then tr to get it elsewhere.
Thx in advance for your help.
Eduardo

Ozz

E,
The number on my box is ART 98109. Page 75 in the catalogue.
I buy all my Armours from a local store called Ryans Aviation here in Vancouver. His prices are about $100.00 Cdn for all of them so far, the B25 may be more but only if CDC charges more as Ryan does not gouge.
I do like you suggested and peruse the websites looking for pictures then when I find someting I must have I ask Ryan to order it for me. Sometimes he gets models in that I have never seen and I'll snap it up. Other times like with the Corgi Lanc, I expressed no interest whatsoever in ordering this model as I was not very impressed with the Corgi 1:144 line, so he put one aside for me when they came in knowing I'd go ape**** when I actualy had a look at it, and he was right! They had sold out a week before I got there so I was grateful.
Cheers

__________________
Ozz

ORANGE IS BEAUTIFUL
GO WESTJET!!!
We need more CPAir/CDN and don't forget PWA and BA Landor!

egonzinc

Ozz,
Thx!
Wish I had a place like that here!
I found several more US retailers in this link:
http://www.armourcollection.com/armour_noflash.html

Hit retailer list on this site for list...

Yes the Rudel tank buster is 98109, found it after asking.
Thx
E

justin

I'm quite lucky at home as my local model train & diecast car/bus/truck shop has an account with CDC's distributors in England and he is very good about ordering in. I just look through the catalogue or tell him the model I've seen somewhere else and he'll get within a couple of weeks, and his prices are cheaper than almost all the prices I've seen from UK shops on the Internet. I wonder if some of those big British diecast aircraft shops are ramping prices and ripping customers off, as the old boy running my local shop showed me the distributors price list with their suggested retail mark up, and it's very different from the prices I see from some very famous model aircraft shops in England...... He's the same with Herpa, seeing the prices for some Herpa's in certain shops and his suppliers prices for Herpa, something is very wrong in England, that's why I decided to buy my 1/400 models from America via the web.

Justin

egonzinc

There are two more Stukas I had not seen until today.
Thet wo are tropicals and one is the "often modeled" scheme with the red/white snake on th side of the fuselage.
Browsing through the various retailer sites I found a LOT more models out there. I can stay away from the jets with no problem. but these WWII types..I find hard to resist!
E

Ozz

Justin, sorry to hear the retailers in the UK are behaving badly. I have found that Ryan's prices are very close to the amount I pay when ordering from the US, what with exchange, duty, shipping etc. but with a lot less hassle, and I can sneak the models into the house when "Mom's" out, to avoid any incidents.
I agree, these WWII models are irresistible and addictive, I'm trying to limit them to one per type but I blew that with the two F4's and if I ever see the RN variant I know that number will rise. I would like a couple more JU87's and a few FW190's and at least two of the B25's.
I can hardly wait for Wed. so I can see my 262 and the Corgi Mossie.
I thought of another one I'd like, how about a Douglas SBD Dauntless. With canopies open perhaps?
I'm almost afraid of what will come out next year!

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Ozz

ORANGE IS BEAUTIFUL
GO WESTJET!!!
We need more CPAir/CDN and don't forget PWA and BA Landor!

justin

I'd definately buy an SBD! I want to see the FAA F4, because if they've modelled it correctly this would be in the "must have" category for me. The thing I'm worried about is, I suspect it may be a repaint of a standard F4, I can't imagine they've changed the fuselage cross section and afterburners for one model. Actually, the fuselage wouldn't really matter as most people would not notice, but the afterburners and area around the exhaust was very different on RR powered F4's. Has anybody seen the model, or know the answer? Any help would be most welcome as I am dying not knowing whether or not to order it The Stuka with the snake may suffer from over familiarity as it is one of those models we see everywhere as Ed says, but it's still a nice one. I like the later Ju87's with the streamlined engine fairing, I thought the early ones looked a bit ugly. I fall for both modern and retro, but tend to go more for WW2 stuff. I really do hope they are making a healthy profit so will continue to pump those models out, the more the better, things like Fw190D9's, P40's, Tempest's, Mosquito's, Zero's, Helldivers, Ju88's, Hurricane's, Yak 9's...... I think I've just been transported to a diecast heaven

About UK rip off merchants, here are some prices seen in a famous UK store, prices are in UK pounds,
DW ANA Pokemon 250GBP
DW 777 working together 130GBP
GJ BA 744's 80GBP
DW 744 SOHK 50GBP (still available from CX at regular price)
ANA Herpa's 50GBP
JX 747F American Freighter 75GBP (had about 20!!)
GJ DC8's, in metal box, some over 50GBP
These would be crazy if in US$, but multiply prices by 1.45........ These are all new models, now I can't say for sure, but I'm convinced they hold a few items back in a consignment to hold until they can ramp the prices, then they wonder why so many British collectors with PC's shop over seas!
Another habit, as soon as something is discontinued they double the price as it is "rare", despite the fact they and every other shop still have unsold stock. I was picked up a Korean 777 from Herpa and noticed it was over priced at over 20 GBP, to be told it was now discontinued so rare. The store guy got quite angry when I asked what the heck he was talking about when he still had about 20 of the things on his shelf and it had only just been dicontinued!! Take care

Justin

egonzinc

Wow I have some of those models and I would be willing to SELL to them at those prices...
I bet they wouldn't pay 50% of the price at which they are selling...
I was glad to see in one of the many Armour sites I visited yesterday that they are concentrating on 1/48 scale line.
Its just amazing how many different models of the same type they are releasing.
All those types you mention will be VERY attractive for me.
I'm still hoping for some 1/32 scale WWI types...the 1/48 scale is too small for these aircraft...
Hope it happens and if not this 1/48 Armour line will keep me plenty busy!
E

justin

If somebody offered me those kind of prices for my 1/400 collection I'd sell all of them!!! I've really reduced my 1/400 buying lately to concentrate on larger scales, although I still buy airlines that I'm really heavily into like BA, airlines of China, Korea and Japan. I would also like some high quality 1/32 WW1 and inter-war types, a Fokker DR1 would be nice, Camel also. The Hawker Hart series were nice machines, although they are inter-war. I think the CDC 1/48 series has captured peoples imagination much more than their 1/100 range thanks to the outstanding detail and finish, many of my friends think they are plastic kits on first seeing them. Take care!

Justin

egonzinc

Justin,
YESSS!
Absolutely right about people thinking they are plastic models. My wifw couldn't believe it was metal and of course she refused to pick one up fearing damaging the model...
I've explained to her that this will SAVE space as I can now sell the models I will NEVER build... hope she doesn't figure ut that the box of the finished model is THREE times the size of the Kit box!!
jajajaja!
I'm going to need MORE space and then MORE space and then...

Still have many tough decisions to make... I'm currently planning an expantion in my home... This will be it , so I have to be careful!
E

justin

The things we have to do to sneak models past our better halves! I'm still trying to think up an excuse as to why I've accumulated a bedroom full of more models in the last year Plan that extension well, gotta leave plenty of room for expanding the collection Living in an apartment, that's not an option for me, so I guess a move is in order, oh dear....
I think these CDC are the first diecast models I've seen that do pass muster as an alternative to plastic kits at a realistic price. I've seen models in Japan (don't know the make, sorry) of mainly Japanese types that were just stunning, no seams, working shock absorbers on the gear and stuff, but they were VERY expensive. Certainly since starting buying these I can't see the point of building a 1/48 kit. Some of Corgi's better 1/72 models are also this good, like the Lancaster, F4U, Zero, Mosquito FB VI etc.
Take care!

Justin

Ozz

With the exception of the Pokemons those prices would be high if in Canadian dollars! And besides a model should not be considered rare untill there is only one left in the store and there is a demand for it! I can see why you shop elsewhere. This makes me appreciate my pusher even more and my loyalty to him.
For me the 1:48's are as big as I can go for space considerations, I'd love to see a 1:32 series but I would have no room to display them, as it is, everytime I bring something home it results in a major repositioning.
I'd like to rebuild the house with a 900 square foot model room and a four car garage to put my Morgan in (I wish). It's just like hard drives though, remember when 1 gig was more than enough room for eveything? The bigger the warehouse the bigger the inventory.
Hell if I can still walk in this room I have space for more models, BRING EM ON!!
Justin, you've got some serious "splainin" to do when Mom gets home!

__________________
Ozz

ORANGE IS BEAUTIFUL
GO WESTJET!!!
We need more CPAir/CDN and don't forget PWA and BA Landor!

justin

I agree with Ozz completely about this word "rare". For me rare means a model is really hard to find, almost all stock is sold and so the only place to look is the resale market. Even then, it is only rare if you can't find them on sale anywhere. If shops still have a lot of stock, or there are 30 of the things on E-Bay then it is not that rare in my book. I'm lucky enough to travel a lot and it never ceases to amaze me how I keep stumbling across shops with those "rare" models on their shelves.
I go to Egypt for 7 weeks on November 4th., so my other half will have a few weeks to calm down My model room is a real mess, it's just littered with kit's, half finished diorama's I'm too lazy to finish, Bader boxes and all sorts of flotsam, I love it in there!

Justin

egonzinc

Justin,
I recommend you buy some of those file boxes and start putting stuff away... you don't want to leave models and precious "stuff" TOO accessible when gone for 7 weeks!!
E

justin

I think it may be easier just to seal the door and window with bricks to keep i