dora

Hi!!

I just found this forum, and wanted to ask for your advice. I have an old, old metal model that I just found in the attic that belonged to my great uncle. It is made of metal, sits on a tear drop shaped stand with a "douglas" and DC-7 on it, and is about 28 inches across the wings. Old, and the paint on it is a bit yellowed, but otherwise in great shape...any chance you guys might know how much its worth?

There are propellers on it, and I think the wings come off the body too. I might be interested in selling it, as I have no space (or interest!!) for such things...

Thank you very much,
Dora

flieger

These models are rather expensive. Sent you a PM.

Francois

hi,
contact me if you want to sell your model .
regards,
Francois

voodoo1

Did you find a buyer for your model yet, if not contact me.

orirua

have you sold this model i would be intrestered

regards

dora

I received a number of offers ranging between $500 and $3500. Sorry Ari/Spacemodels666 I don't think I will even consider your offer for $500!

Thank you sooooo much to the collectors who helped me with the proper valuation of this model without trying to take advantage of someone like me who does not know.

The model has been sold.

car15

Was the final selling price $3500??

spacemodels666

Graham Bridges

I have to say that Ari has bought travel agency models from me and always paid the "right" money. He is not a big long-standing friend of mine, just a collector with a similar interest. My experience is that he's a fair buyer.

Every deal has to start somewhere and the vendor's remarks do seem a little cutting.

You only have to check out ebay to see that some bidders (like me) drop out at half of the eventual selling price and that's when I can see what I'm buying. So we all have a different perception of values. Does this mean I'm cheap or mean ?

If Ari had seen what was on offer, condition/rarity etc he may have paid more than $3500 ! Who knows ?

And this is a hobby so these public remarks aren't really needed. If you don't like offers just turn them down !

presidential

not seeing that his comments were out of line .. you are a bit sensitive .. perhaps because you low balled?

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Graham Bridges

This debate about the DC-7 re-kindles for me the old cheshnut of value. Somehow I can see that a museum is kind of justified in bidding crazy prices for something in order to preserve the piece, put it on display and expect more visitors as a result, and I get to share the piece by going to look.

But with airplane models these are not exactly Leonardo da Vinci materpieces, just engineered pieces, from tooling, that we like the look of.

When I can't get to buy the nice airplane models I'd really like because they are so expensive I start to look at the reasoning behind it all.

It just seems to me that sometime we can all,maybe, buy just one nice piece up to a $1500. A one-off treat of a lifetime and that's about it. But just think how these so called values are set in the microcosm of our hobby.

There may be 5 to 10 people throughout the whole world who want to own this stuff and are affluent enough to pay up with even blinking an eyelid. And the rest of us remain powerless.

So the "value" or should I say the selling price, is set by the few "gotta have its" who have the money.

I guess that's the nature of our culture, but it doesn't make me feel any better. There's no way I can justify $3,000 for an airplane model when I need things like a new car, washing machine, family holiday etc.

I guess I'd find the dough if a really nice super connie cut away came up but I'd probably ***** all the way to and from the loan company.

Graham

PS Getting back to the Ari saga. 1) The seller is an inknown quantity so would you get your model if money changed hands ? 2) The vendor has still not yet published any details regarding condition, colour scheme - or was that done "privately" with the buyer ? 3) The vendors response clearly has an element of an unecessary "attack" agenda. 4) I don't think Ari is dumb enough to think that nobody else would make an offer. 5) If nobody else did make an offer then Ari's offer would be the "right" price. 6) I think vendors should always set the price they want and if they don't know the price then let an auction find the level for you. 7) Its customery in the antiques trade to charge for valuations.

car15

Case in point: A short time ago I was contacted by a non-collector who wanted to sell a factory Douglas DC6. I was asked what the item was worth sight unseen. I offered $500.00 sight unseen which ended up higher than another collector's offer ($200.00). I was able to purchase the model and was very happy with the outcome. An aluminum polished 1/50th scale Douglas Factory Model with original stand and props. Thanks to the greedy low baller who lost out on a great model deal.
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flieger

I think it is not possible to come to a final conclusion here, also since the market is rather "overheated" actually, and not only in terms of prices....
Basically I guess that it makes some difference, who is placing the bid. If a beginner with low income, who ever dreams about getting such model, is making a low bid, that is understandable. Very possibly he will also not get the model. But if an experienced collector with high income is offering low bids, that could be "greedy".
I repeat myself when I say, that we all need documented price guidelines, such as they are existing for tin toys. From my aspect this would be a help and support for any kind of collectors, and it will stabilise prices on a reasonable level. Actually there is too much confusion and tendency to "phantasy prices" out there.

Chris

anthony

i am not sure I believe "Dora" wa even a genuine owner -but merely trying to fly a kite -I have never sen a Douglas 50th scale prop model -even in perfect condition -go for $3,500.00. Perhaps the new owner will identify himself/herself -and let us ALL see what $3,500.00 buys! Anthony

J-H

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...d=1#post460516

Looks like somebody was up to his old tricks (again). Funny, how greed drives some people in this hobby.