The ATLANTIC MODELS

aki · 06-13-2003, 03:39 AM

Hi out all there!
Is there anybody who can show me the close up pics of the Atlantic Models' B737, B757 and B777?
How's the quality of them?

06-13-2003, 01:05 PM

I have a DL 777-200 intermediate colors. I nice plane, but unfortuntly it was trashed up by FedEX so I never got to see it complete. But what I have of it broken, it looked to be a very nice plane when intact.

06-13-2003, 01:19 PM

This is not of the plane you wanted .. but I can blow up the SW 737's if you need (although they are 1:200 special order .. I think normal is 1:100 or 1:72) ....

http://www.jetcollector.com/forum/sh...&threadid=3582

If you look at the BAe-146 ... the quality is excellent and I think the accuracy of the plane is there ...

I would highly recommend them ..

Ozz · 06-15-2003, 01:25 PM

Here are two Atlantic 732's.

aki · 06-15-2003, 10:19 PM

THANKS ALL!!!!!!!!
The positive statements and the SAD story make me to confuse!??

06-15-2003, 10:35 PM

here is a close up of the southwest ... these were in the process of being made ... they are 1:200 and will be available in the southwest store.

smoothjazz · 06-16-2003, 04:44 PM

WOW... that's alot of SWs... I gotta agree bigger models look
much nicer for desks~~!

funbird · 06-17-2003, 11:22 PM

Atlantic is mediocre at best. If you want resin/fiberglass models go with Pacmin, Space or AMI.

06-18-2003, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funbird
Atlantic is mediocre at best. If you want resin/fiberglass models go with Pacmin, Space or AMI.

good enough to make this statement .. but in the absense of any rationale or examples I would say you are full of ***** ... care to explain why Pacmin or AMI is better ...

CWAirman · 06-18-2003, 02:18 PM

I have an Atlantic Models CV880 and it looks great. I have compared Atlantic Models to PacMin and other brands and truth be told they all are virtually the same quality, except for the wood brands which are substandard in many respects. It really comes down to who offers the livery that you are looking for. If Atlantic has it and Pacmin doesn't then don't be afraid to buy Atlantic because other than mold production they are of same quaility and look.

funbird · 06-18-2003, 03:13 PM

Presidential your standards of collecting then aren't as selective as mine. Pacmin, Space and AMI are considered superior to Atlantic in painting quality and aircraft accuracy. Sheesh what a moron.

06-18-2003, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funbird
Presidential your standards of collecting then aren't as selective as mine. Pacmin, Space and AMI are considered superior to Atlantic in painting quality and aircraft accuracy. Sheesh what a moron.

yea and I still say you are full of ***** .. my Atlanic Models and Space BAe-146 are exactly the same on the accuracey of the mould ... paint on the Space is a hair better but not much ... Moron huh ... well given that you AGAIN have provided no examples of why PacMin is better ... who is the Moron?? .. love how idiots like you come on and trash something then can't back it up ... take a lesson from David Hingtqen ... provide some specifics ...

funbird · 06-18-2003, 10:40 PM

Here you go moron. A Pacmin ANA 777-200. BTW the DC-10 done by Atlantic for CF is horrible. Look at the nose and #2 engine exhaust. They're off by a mile. Guess your standards are lower than mine.

06-19-2003, 05:53 AM

SPEEDEMON · 06-20-2003, 12:07 AM

Let me shed some light on this issue.

Pac-Min has been around for over more than a half of a century. Their models are considered state of the art and have not been surpassed by anyone yet in the commercial professional market of presentation-grade, promotional models for the airframe and airline industry.

I have been to the Atlantic Models factory in Miami, FL and have seen the Atlantic Models being built and their process on making these models. Their models are nice, but from what I understand from the process of these two are totally different:

The process of these two manufacture uses two different methods to mold their models, which is totally different. Pac-Min uses an injection process to use pressure in the resin to force the resin into the molds. Atlantic uses a pour method, which just pours, the resin into their molds. What’s the difference you asked? The injection process would be more compressed on the resin, making the mold more dense and heavy. It’s like the forging process, like some of the parts on an automotive, which eliminates more bubbles and gives you a more solid mold than the pouring process, which will not compress the resin and squeeze out the bubbles?

Pac-Min builds their mold from the blueprints on a CAD system from the air-frame manufactures such as Boeing, Mc Donnell-Douglas etc. which their mold is cast out of solid block of steel which is very expensive, but can be used many times over and over without losing any accuracy nor have any distortion.

Atlantic builds their molds out of rubber block which can be used several hundred time then has to be thrown away because the rubber will wear out due to heat and after many uses will distortion unable to hold their accuracy.

As I understand that the only company that have quality close to Pac-Min would be Space-Models out of England, but won't surpass the Pac-Min's.

Pac-Min does not do custom models for the public, but they do custom for their customers like Boeing and the airlines, which those companies can afford to have them do a custom model like 1 of 1 item.

What it boils down to is what you want and what quality is it that you’re looking for!

Cathay · 06-21-2003, 07:29 AM

So if I wanted a Aloha 737-200 in the new colors, who would have it?

Ozz · 06-21-2003, 06:06 PM

Bader and he would put any reg you wanted on it.

06-21-2003, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cathay
So if I wanted a Aloha 737-200 in the new colors, who would have it?

Not PacMin .... which for me is the issue ... if they do a plane you like you are in luck, if not ... well ...

Bader will do one .... but you will wait a long time and Atlantic Models will do one.

*****

That was a nice explanation SPEEDEMON .. more in line of what I was looking for ..

Hey SPEEDMON .. is SPACE still in business .. do you have a web site or contact for them? I thought they went out of business ..

SPEEDEMON · 06-25-2003, 12:04 AM

Here is the link the Space Models:

http://www.spacemodels.co.uk/models/modcore.htm

06-25-2003, 08:06 AM

thanks!

Archivist · 12-31-2005, 07:57 PM

Quote:

good enough to make this statement .. but in the absense of any rationale or examples I would say you are full of ***** ... care to explain why Pacmin or AMI is better ...

I started out with a PACMIN 737-700. I really liked it and went on to buy a few more (NWA 727 & DC 10 and a Canada 3000 A320).

What I REALLY wanted was access to models of the old propliners and 1st generation jets. I did a lot of looking on the WWW and found Atlantic Models.

I completely switched from buying PACMIN to Atlantic Models. Here is the rationale: I can get most anything that I want at Atlantic. I am not limited to current aircraft in current color schemes. I get the models from the manufacturer; I don't have to shop airline company stores. I prefer that "one piece" approach, with integral wings - just feels more solid too me. And finally, I can call and talk to the OWNERS of Atlantic if I need something or a model just didn't turn out right (hasn't happened).

I prefer Atlantic and continue to get lots of stuff from them; just got a Southern Airways Martin 404 earlier this week.

Here's a shameless plug for my Yahoo Group: Go over and check it out at, uh: Atlantic Models Airliner Display Group

See ya,

John

SPEEDEMON · 01-08-2006, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archivist

I completely switched from buying PACMIN to Atlantic Models.

I guess it was the other way for me. When I started collecting it didn’t mean that much on what manufactures were producing the models as long as I could get one, I didn't know much about the different manufactures at all. My first unit was an AirJet out of Miami, and then went on to Wesco out of Chula Vista. Then I meet a guy that work for United Airlines which turned me on to PacMin. He told me if there was any importance on the values of these models that I was purchase which would retain any value then I should probably start looking into going with PacMin. He told me other companies don't hold their value like the PacMins do. PacMin are hard to get, but it’s worth what you pay. I have learned a lot from a friend that I met that was working at United Airlines which always told me that the PacMins are only made for the professional industry. Here’s a few of the PacMins which I enjoy very much:

Archivist · 01-08-2006, 01:39 AM

Magnificent models!! I am jealous.

John

Testpilot · 01-10-2006, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archivist

I started out with a PACMIN 737-700. I really liked it and went on to buy a few more (NWA 727 & DC 10 and a Canada 3000 A320).

What I REALLY wanted was access to models of the old propliners and 1st generation jets. I did a lot of looking on the WWW and found Atlantic Models.

I completely switched from buying PACMIN to Atlantic Models. Here is the rationale: I can get most anything that I want at Atlantic. I am not limited to current aircraft in current color schemes. I get the models from the manufacturer; I don't have to shop airline company stores. I prefer that "one piece" approach, with integral wings - just feels more solid too me. And finally, I can call and talk to the OWNERS of Atlantic if I need something or a model just didn't turn out right (hasn't happened).

I prefer Atlantic and continue to get lots of stuff from them; just got a Southern Airways Martin 404 earlier this week.

Here's a shameless plug for my Yahoo Group: Go over and check it out at, uh: Atlantic Models Airliner Display Group

See ya,

John

In an earlier thread it talks about the difference between the two manufactures Atlantic and PacMin.

http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...ad.php?t=22943

The two doesn’t even compare, there’s really no comparison at all. PacMin quality is pretty second to none. It’s geared to provide the corporate customs the best they can get. Corporate customers demand the best quality available with accuracy to represent them. The two of them are priced pretty much the same. For that I would take a PacMin hands down, that's a no brainier for me.

seattlex19 · 01-10-2006, 06:04 PM

I am not really familiar with Atlantic models but I can certainly vouch for PacMins being some of the most impressive things I've seen.

Very expensive, but very nice

Archivist · 01-10-2006, 08:59 PM

Well, I guess it's just a matter of what you (or I) want then. I mean, I can buy Pacmin or Atlantic or whatever. I like Atlantic because they give me what I want.

Contrary to the caustic remarks of our associate above, no one is a moron for liking this or that manufacturer. If ya like what they make... buy it and have a good time. That's what it's all about.

See ya,

John

seattlex19 · 01-10-2006, 09:30 PM

Let's clarify for the record that by "above" he's not referring to me!

aki · 01-10-2006, 11:22 PM

I'm not sure you've already known though, Atlantic's models are available with/without landing gears (1/100 scale and larger models only). The later is their basic version and the former is an option. I believe PacMin doesn't have those options unfortunately... so I like their those flexibility... and price, putting its surface finish and quality aside. Attached pics are Atlatic.

BTW I bet Jet-X's coming B738s would be a shoo in if you like a 1/100 scale B738 model. IMHO PacMin's one would step aside.

06-13-2003, 03:39 AM	#1
aki Senior Collector Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Z Posts: 271	The ATLANTIC MODELS Hi out all there! Is there anybody who can show me the close up pics of the Atlantic Models' B737, B757 and B777? How's the quality of them?

06-15-2003, 01:25 PM	#4
Ozz Insane Collector Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada (CYVR) Age: 50 Posts: 2,763	Here are two Atlantic 732's. __________________ Ozz ORANGE IS BEAUTIFUL *GO WESTJET!!!* We need more CPAir/CDN and don't forget PWA and BA Landor!

06-16-2003, 04:44 PM	#7
smoothjazz More Korean Air in 1/200! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: SEOUL KOREA Posts: 6,109	WOW... that's alot of SWs... I gotta agree bigger models look much nicer for desks~~! __________________ BENJAMIN MY COLLECTION http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-1179.html

06-21-2003, 06:06 PM	#17
Ozz Insane Collector Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada (CYVR) Age: 50 Posts: 2,763	Bader and he would put any reg you wanted on it. __________________ Ozz ORANGE IS BEAUTIFUL *GO WESTJET!!!* We need more CPAir/CDN and don't forget PWA and BA Landor!

06-13-2003, 01:05 PM	#2
Romania is #1 Guest Posts: n/a	I have a DL 777-200 intermediate colors. I nice plane, but unfortuntly it was trashed up by FedEX so I never got to see it complete. But what I have of it broken, it looked to be a very nice plane when intact.

06-13-2003, 01:19 PM	#3
Presidential Guest Posts: n/a	This is not of the plane you wanted .. but I can blow up the SW 737's if you need (although they are 1:200 special order .. I think normal is 1:100 or 1:72) .... http://www.jetcollector.com/forum/sh...&threadid=3582 If you look at the BAe-146 ... the quality is excellent and I think the accuracy of the plane is there ... I would highly recommend them ..

06-15-2003, 10:19 PM	#5
aki Senior Collector Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Z Posts: 271	THANKS ALL!!!!!!!! The positive statements and the SAD story make me to confuse!??

06-15-2003, 10:35 PM	#6
Presidential Guest Posts: n/a	here is a close up of the southwest ... these were in the process of being made ... they are 1:200 and will be available in the southwest store.

06-17-2003, 11:22 PM	#8
funbird Master Collector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: north florida Age: 40 Posts: 511	Atlantic is mediocre at best. If you want resin/fiberglass models go with Pacmin, Space or AMI.

06-18-2003, 02:18 PM	#10
CWAirman Senior Collector Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 168	I have an Atlantic Models CV880 and it looks great. I have compared Atlantic Models to PacMin and other brands and truth be told they all are virtually the same quality, except for the wood brands which are substandard in many respects. It really comes down to who offers the livery that you are looking for. If Atlantic has it and Pacmin doesn't then don't be afraid to buy Atlantic because other than mold production they are of same quaility and look.

06-18-2003, 03:13 PM	#11
funbird Master Collector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: north florida Age: 40 Posts: 511	Presidential your standards of collecting then aren't as selective as mine. Pacmin, Space and AMI are considered superior to Atlantic in painting quality and aircraft accuracy. Sheesh what a moron.

06-18-2003, 10:40 PM	#13
funbird Master Collector Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: north florida Age: 40 Posts: 511	Here you go moron. A Pacmin ANA 777-200. BTW the DC-10 done by Atlantic for CF is horrible. Look at the nose and #2 engine exhaust. They're off by a mile. Guess your standards are lower than mine.

06-20-2003, 12:07 AM	#15
SPEEDEMON Senior Collector Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Francisco Bay Age: 47 Posts: 191	Let me shed some light on this issue. Pac-Min has been around for over more than a half of a century. Their models are considered state of the art and have not been surpassed by anyone yet in the commercial professional market of presentation-grade, promotional models for the airframe and airline industry. I have been to the Atlantic Models factory in Miami, FL and have seen the Atlantic Models being built and their process on making these models. Their models are nice, but from what I understand from the process of these two are totally different: The process of these two manufacture uses two different methods to mold their models, which is totally different. Pac-Min uses an injection process to use pressure in the resin to force the resin into the molds. Atlantic uses a pour method, which just pours, the resin into their molds. What’s the difference you asked? The injection process would be more compressed on the resin, making the mold more dense and heavy. It’s like the forging process, like some of the parts on an automotive, which eliminates more bubbles and gives you a more solid mold than the pouring process, which will not compress the resin and squeeze out the bubbles? Pac-Min builds their mold from the blueprints on a CAD system from the air-frame manufactures such as Boeing, Mc Donnell-Douglas etc. which their mold is cast out of solid block of steel which is very expensive, but can be used many times over and over without losing any accuracy nor have any distortion. Atlantic builds their molds out of rubber block which can be used several hundred time then has to be thrown away because the rubber will wear out due to heat and after many uses will distortion unable to hold their accuracy. As I understand that the only company that have quality close to Pac-Min would be Space-Models out of England, but won't surpass the Pac-Min's. Pac-Min does not do custom models for the public, but they do custom for their customers like Boeing and the airlines, which those companies can afford to have them do a custom model like 1 of 1 item. What it boils down to is what you want and what quality is it that you’re looking for!

06-21-2003, 07:29 AM	#16
Cathay Collector Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Schaumburg IL Age: 37 Posts: 147	So if I wanted a Aloha 737-200 in the new colors, who would have it?

06-25-2003, 12:04 AM	#19
SPEEDEMON Senior Collector Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Francisco Bay Age: 47 Posts: 191	Here is the link the Space Models: http://www.spacemodels.co.uk/models/modcore.htm

06-25-2003, 08:06 AM	#20
Presidential Guest Posts: n/a	thanks!

01-08-2006, 01:39 AM	#23
Archivist Atlantic Models Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 18	Magnificent models!! I am jealous. John

01-10-2006, 06:04 PM	#25
seattlex19 Junior Collector Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 31	I am not really familiar with Atlantic models but I can certainly vouch for PacMins being some of the most impressive things I've seen. Very expensive, but very nice

01-10-2006, 08:59 PM	#26
Archivist Atlantic Models Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 18	Well, I guess it's just a matter of what you (or I) want then. I mean, I can buy Pacmin or Atlantic or whatever. I like Atlantic because they give me what I want. Contrary to the caustic remarks of our associate above, no one is a moron for liking this or that manufacturer. If ya like what they make... buy it and have a good time. That's what it's all about. See ya, John

01-10-2006, 09:30 PM	#27
seattlex19 Junior Collector Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 31	Let's clarify for the record that by "above" he's not referring to me!

01-10-2006, 11:22 PM	#28
aki Senior Collector Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Z Posts: 271	I'm not sure you've already known though, Atlantic's models are available with/without landing gears (1/100 scale and larger models only). The later is their basic version and the former is an option. I believe PacMin doesn't have those options unfortunately... so I like their those flexibility... and price, putting its surface finish and quality aside. Attached pics are Atlatic. BTW I bet Jet-X's coming B738s would be a shoo in if you like a 1/100 scale B738 model. IMHO PacMin's one would step aside.