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Old 06-06-2008, 11:33 AM   #1
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Old 06-06-2008, 11:45 AM   #2
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Truly horrible and a sad reflection on modern day society.

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Old 06-06-2008, 12:18 PM   #3
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Nothing new, unfortunately. I experienced this behaviour a few years ago, though in different circumstances...
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Certainly not the severity of the thread topic, but a slight side story here ... a few years ago during the Winter, I was waiting at a bus stop, the bus pulled up and I accidentally slipped on a patch of ice and fell backwards.

Anyhow ... did the adult male bus driver looking right at me help? NO. Did any of the adult bus passengers help me? NO.

4 teenage girls (14-15 years old) got out of their seats and exited the bus to help me, asked if I was ok, asked if I needed them to call 911, etc. I was SO impressed with these young ladies - have never forgotten their help and kindness. I really appreciated it! The experience that day also really changed my opinion of teenagers for the better!

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Old 06-06-2008, 02:26 PM   #5
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Wrong, that's just WRONG!

If I was there, I'd be out helping him without hesitation, as would any other remotely sensible person.

Oh yeah, and I'd give the people watching a piece of my mind too (potentially not so sensible, but you are in the right).

Generally though, and I hope this makes sense, people just do not know what to do or want to get involved, particularly if the person is young, etc etc - complete stereotyping, I know.

You see, It comes from the chain of events where people don't want help in the first place, such as when you open a door for someone and then get a mouthful from them that they can open a door themselves thankyou very much!, so people then don't bother in the future.
But then, suddenly when someone DOES need help, people aren't so sure. Like I say, they don't want to get involved if the person needing help happens to be a complete moron. A bit like crying wolf in a way.

People don't want to look like a fool in front of others if the person is actually ok and has a go at them. However, if they see someone else helping, then they will more likely come forwards themselves as they think it's ok to do so now.

Monkey see monkey do.

Crap, isn't it??


In short, we are all sheep in one way or another, just some more than others.
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:50 PM   #6
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Wrong, that's just WRONG!

If I was there, I'd be out helping him without hesitation, as would any other remotely sensible person.
Exactly! Anyone with decency would have helped the man.

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You see, It comes from the chain of events where people don't want help in the first place, such as when you open a door for someone and then get a mouthful from them that they can open a door themselves thankyou very much!, so people then don't bother in the future.
All my male friends and family members have had unfortunate negative experiences with this! - eg. my stepdad went to help a female co-worker put on her coat, she grabbed her coat, yanked it out of his hands and yelled at him in front of all co-workers that she can put on her own coat! My male friends have all tried opening doors for women, offering their seat on the bus/subway/train, etc. and get completely chewed out for doing this. I absolutely HATE bitches like these women as they are trying to ruin things for women like myself that love when a guy is chivalrous, has manners, is respectful plus is a good and nice guy. Having said all that, guys have always opened doors for me, offered their seat, pulled out chairs, etc. ... must be my inherent sweetness. hehe.

Jo <<< a nice lady.
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Nothing could be worse than holding a door open for someone behind you once you go ahead, and they don't acknowledge with a thanks, assuming you are a doorman and should actually holding it for them. I had an individual who once gave me that treatment but fortunately there were two doors to pass, the second door met that person's face, because I wasn't there holding it open for the idiot!
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Nothing could be worse than holding a door open for someone behind you once you go ahead, and they don't acknowledge with a thanks, assuming you are a doorman and should actually holding it for them. I had an individual who once gave me that treatment but fortunately there were two doors to pass, the second door met that person's face, because I wasn't there holding it open for the idiot!
Good for you!

During PMS, I have actually very bluntly, rudely and sarcastically said to people "oh, by the way ... you're welcome" after holding a door open for them and receiving no thanks. You should see the look of shock on their faces!

A family member told me I actually shouldn't expect any thanks for doing something that I chose to do. I hope the surgery goes well with removing my foot from their rear end!

I always smile and say Thank You if someone holds a door for me. Also, I'm a "touchy-feely" person so quite often will also touch the person's arm or give their arm a squeeze.
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It is nice and all, but I don't really expect any thanks. I do it simply because other people have done it for me in the past and, well, I was brought up too, it's just part of who I am.

Being Chivallrous isn't about asking yourself

'What can I get out of this?'

more,

'how can I help?'.

As long as you remember that, it doesn't really matter anyway, you have done your duty, and you at least have done more than the other person.
That's satisfaction enough for me (unless the person was actually rude).

By the way, I'll always aknowledge the person if they do it for me. A nod of the head is usually enough as I speak too quietly.
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Built in the '80s to a 1960s design, this is a plane that first turned up for work when Prime Minister Harold Wilson wore a Gannex raincoat and the first coat of paint was still wet on Coronation Street.
But when the daily remit is multiple short hops between tiny bumpy strips in a climate that flickers from the blustery to the apocalyptic, this sturdy little craft is hard to beat.'

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Roarer, you couldn't have roared that better....Very well roared!
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I don't really expect any thanks.
I both expect and deserve thanks - befitting of a TRUE Leo Woman!



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I think that it is disgusting that no one helped him.

I have a little bit of first aid training, and I certainly would have helped.

If someone is lying there in the street, don't just walk on by. The part that bothered me the most was where the truck almost hits him AGAIN, and doesn't even slow down or stop!

People are too afraid of being sued for offending someone, or trying to help and actually hurting someone. Sad, Sad, Sad.
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Roarer, you couldn't have roared that better....Very well roared!
It's a dangerous thing always wanting praise.

The person who's truly satisfied doesn't need it.



In the great scheme of things, it's not as if it's actually important anyway.
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Built in the '80s to a 1960s design, this is a plane that first turned up for work when Prime Minister Harold Wilson wore a Gannex raincoat and the first coat of paint was still wet on Coronation Street.
But when the daily remit is multiple short hops between tiny bumpy strips in a climate that flickers from the blustery to the apocalyptic, this sturdy little craft is hard to beat.'

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Some of the excuses people were giving was that Its a bad neighborhood and nobody wanted to get involved with it.
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Hartford certainly is the ghetto... I used to go to concerts there and beforehand we would grab a bite at the McDonalds with the police substation inside of it... that right a police station in the McDonalds in beautiful downtown Hartford.
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Some of the excuses people were giving was that Its a bad neighborhood and nobody wanted to get involved with it.
Truly sad. Another upsetting thing is when a "good samaritan" steps in to help someone - eg. person is getting beaten up or robbed, etc. and the helpful person ends up getting killed - has sadly happened here in Toronto too many times! Makes people hesitant to get involved. They could at least call 911 but some people don't even do that and just walk away!

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McDonalds with the police substation inside of it...
Cripes! Have never heard of that before. How unfortunate it's probably going to start happening everywhere!
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Even fatter Polis. Great!
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In one way or another, all of us lose sight of what it means to be human. For some of us, it takes longer than others to realize what is going on inside of ourselves. Personal life changing experiences have the most influence on our inner aspect of life.

For this poor man, a number of individuals failed to come to his rescue because of one cold aspect of our society; individualism.
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Yes and if you only do things if you are going to get praise, then nothing would EVER get done at all.
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Yes and if you only do things if you are going to get praise, then nothing would EVER get done at all.
Nor would it be WORTH getting anything done.
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Nor would it be WORTH getting anything done.
Like someone who does a job purely for the money and doesn't care about anything else.

Worthless.

Some of the most inept people I've ever come across have been people with jobs like that.


Anyway.
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Like someone who does a job purely for the money and doesn't care about anything else.

Worthless.

Some of the most inept people I've ever come across have been people with jobs like that.

Anyway.
Roarer,

You hit a sore subject that will, unfortunately, make or break my working day; poor work ethics with some coworkers. Just too depressing to talk about. Thankfully, there are others at the job who make it worthwhile because we appreciate what is going on.
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What a sad and appalling incident... a tragic example of the "bystander effect", something I learned about in an intro psych course last semester...

Basically, the bystander effect is a psychological phenomenon when witnesses to an accident or crime of some sort fail to recognize their moral and social responsibility to render aid or intervene in an emergency. The bystanders see that since there are other people around, someone else will help and therefore they don't need to, or they don't recognize the urgency of a situation BECAUSE no one else is doing anything about it. People who study such cases say that if you're ever in need of aid, you're more likely to get it if there's only 1 or 2 people around than if there were dozens around. As disgusting as it sounds, I suppose it makes sense if you think about it: if only 1 person is around when someone is in dire need of help, that 1 person is very likely to recognize their responsibility