Questions re Flight Sims

Bangkok Lady La · 02-03-2008, 02:41 AM

Howdy

I am interested in getting into Flight Sim X but I have no idea what I am really getting myself into thus my post here....

Can anyone who may dabble in this form of armchair flying be able to give me some advice on the following :

1> Whats the best flight sim to fly Widebody style jets ?
2> How do add on's work ?
3> Are there adequate instructions included to effectively learn how to fly say a 747-400 ?
4> Any other helpful info....

Please remember I've never dabbled in pc sim games so treat me stupid (

)

Thanks

Bill-ay · 02-03-2008, 10:36 AM

1> There are many different mods that you can buy, a good site is pcaviator.com
2> You just download them, and then most of the time they just go into the FS file on your computer, and you just select the aircraft that you downloaded from the list, and fly!
3> There are various lessons on how to fly jets, props, ultra-lights, helis, etc. So yes, there are.
4> I would buy the FS X Deluxe Edition, it's increadble.

FIRST JET · 02-03-2008, 11:18 AM

unfortunetly FSX doesn't WANT to work on certain computers!!! (Like mine

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Bill-ay · 02-03-2008, 11:24 AM

Ditto to that Hunter! I play it at my friends house who dosnt even care about it! My luck... I can use it on my comp, but I have to lower the graphics, defeats the purpose of buying the deluxe edition!

jaffa-200 · 02-03-2008, 04:32 PM

FSX is great you just need a powerful computer

1:200Freak · 02-03-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bangkok Lady La

Howdy
I am interested in getting into Flight Sim X but I have no idea what I am really getting myself into thus my post here....
Can anyone who may dabble in this form of armchair flying be able to give me some advice on the following :
1> Whats the best flight sim to fly Widebody style jets ?
2> How do add on's work ?
3> Are there adequate instructions included to effectively learn how to fly say a 747-400 ?
4> Any other helpful info....
Please remember I've never dabbled in pc sim games so treat me stupid (

)
Thanks

Get ready to travel around the world to places you've never been to, and view some of the best landing and take off views you may never have seen before. Fly along the Golden gate bridge, view the CN Tower after departing Toronto, and fly over Manhattan on your way to La Guardia, to name a few!!
I've flown FS2002 for a long time, took too much space on my computer and eventually got tired of cruising at FL390 with nothing much to do (that is what the autopilot is there for

)

To answer your questions
1. Try out AVSIM Online - Flight Simulation, Flightsim, flight sim, flight simulator, fsx, fs10 and FlightSim.Com. They have new planes almost every week, and I happened to check one of them yesterday and they have the new Etihad Formula 1 plane...Very nice! I believe the FS2004 (I hope I'm getting my FS numbers right as it's been a while since I used it) has got better clouds, more dramatic sceneries etc. MelJet.Com Version 4.0 is another great site with incredible Boeing 777 family and 744s!

2. Add on's are very simple. You download the file like the Etihad above, extract it to your aircraft folder in FS2002 and then use it to fly. There are other sites that have more complicated aircraft, right down from starting them as you would on a normal jet, to shutting the engines down after reaching the gate...Too complicated for me...When I got the hang of what was needed to get the plane off the ground, fly it to my destination and land it hopefully on the runway, it was good enough for me.
Some sites have just textures where you don't need to download the plane all the time. You just add the textures to the main files and before you know it you have liveries of say EK, SQ, TG and EY for your Airbus A340-500. You will need to download the main aircraft just once.

3. Adequate instructions to take off a 747-400. Yup if you want to read those complicated manuals like I mentioned above, or if you are prepared to belly flop a couple of times before you learn what it takes to keep the plane up after you take off, speed, flaps, rate of climb, thrust etc and then land her back down to terra firma!

4. Flying camera, an add on to any FS game is a must! With this you can change the normal settings of what you see say from the cockpit views to window views, to views that actually make you feel you are sitting on the last seat on the plane. Love those views when flying jets with winglets, like the 744, Airbus A34s and A33s. Some Boeing 737-800s too...like Westjet!!
Fly your plane as you normally would, take off, cruise, land, hopefully with a short hop unrealistically flying a 747-400 from Osaka (Itami, is it) to Osaka Kansai and then use the replay action, can't recall what it's called and view the whole thing over and over again. What's more with the Flying camera and the tower view, you can actually move the tower views to say just close to the touchdown zone (so you can see the rubber burn as it slams down on the runway!!) , or a distance away to see the touchdown and taxi to the terminal. It's so real and I'm not even as good as those guys that have complete videos of these on the net.

5.With all those realistic sceneries out there, LAX, SYD, LAS (the most amazing one yet), JFK, DXB, HKG you going to have to get a really fast computer to get a real time view.
An example I never flew from Skardu to Gilgit in Pakistan, but with FS I got a wonderful sense of what it would be. Hey you get to choose the time of day you fly, dawn, dusk; choose the weather conditions you want to fly in, cloudy, clear, thunderstorm...The possiblities are endless...And the views well just so amazing!

Happy Flying Captain!!

Bangkok Lady La · 02-03-2008, 05:14 PM

Wow Guys
Thanks 1:200 Freak,Bill-Ay,first Jet and Jaffa 200 -
Your feedback is great.
Sounds like FSX is the choice, make sure my pc has the power to handle it and download jets from the internet for specific types.
I so want to fly an SQ A345 !!!!
Awesome!

jaffa-200 · 02-03-2008, 08:19 PM

no problem and get a good joystick to go with it
It brings the flying into your room!!

LOT 737-300 · 02-03-2008, 08:32 PM

If you can find it, get XPlane, its one of the best and most realistic flight sims out there, not as much eye candy as MSFS, and a bit harder to find, but the way it is whole lot more realistic than say MSFS. Everything comes down to how the plane's designed, rather than in MSFS where you make a model, and a dynamic file, so you can have a massice house that controls like a F-16, where in XPlane you wouldn't.

1> Whats the best flight sim to fly Widebody style jets ?

-XPlane hands down in terms of realism, htough MSFS is good too, though that is aimed more at "fun" and "eye candy", I'm not sure though, but MSFS also has ATC while XPlane does not in game. Though both can work on those online networks, so you can fly side by side with a guy who is on MSFS if you're on XPlane.

2> How do add on's work ?

Depends, I'm not too familiar with either XPlane or FSX (though I have the latter, but my machine's too light for this, perhaps a massive overhaul will help here), but I know people who had tried both, and have experience with both. Usually it just involves you putting things into folders to install them. Usually there is 3rd party add on freeware and software that can make you create add ons.

3> Are there adequate instructions included to effectively learn how to fly say a 747-400 ?

There should be as downloads, such as check lists, manuals, maybe even the flight lessons should help you get the basic idea, though X-Plane will handle it more realistically than MSFS. I should also add that XPlane is also used in a lot of those full motion Simulators certified by the FAA. The 747 that comes default in MSFS is highly unrealistic in terms of cockpit accuracy, though there are many add-ons, free and commercial that are a whole lot more accurate.

4> Any other helpful info....

Let put it like this, if you're more into physics realism (that means no Massive blocks that handle like F-16s), get X-Plane. If you like having eye candy, in-game ATC (when offline that is), MSFS might be more down your ally. One more things about X-plane that MSFS dosn't have, from what I remember, if your plane gets damaged, your plane will not freeze in mid air (in other words it "crashed" and reset the flight.) Insted, the proper systems will be damaged and the plane will continue to operate, though with those certain systems that got affected being affected.

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no problem and get a good joystick to go with it
It brings the flying into your room!!
__________________

It depends, when it comes to flying airliners that traditionally have Yokes, I like having a Flight Sim Yoke, when I bring out the Helicopter and Jet fighters and Airbi, then I like using the sticks.

Bangkok Lady La · 02-04-2008, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LOT 737-300

If you can find it, get XPlane, its one of the best and most realistic flight sims out there, not as much eye candy as MSFS, and a bit harder to find, but the way it is whole lot more realistic than say MSFS. Everything comes down to how the plane's designed, rather than in MSFS where you make a model, and a dynamic file, so you can have a massice house that controls like a F-16, where in XPlane you wouldn't.
1> Whats the best flight sim to fly Widebody style jets ?
-XPlane hands down in terms of realism, htough MSFS is good too, though that is aimed more at "fun" and "eye candy", I'm not sure though, but MSFS also has ATC while XPlane does not in game. Though both can work on those online networks, so you can fly side by side with a guy who is on MSFS if you're on XPlane.
2> How do add on's work ?
Depends, I'm not too familiar with either XPlane or FSX (though I have the latter, but my machine's too light for this, perhaps a massive overhaul will help here), but I know people who had tried both, and have experience with both. Usually it just involves you putting things into folders to install them. Usually there is 3rd party add on freeware and software that can make you create add ons.
3> Are there adequate instructions included to effectively learn how to fly say a 747-400 ?
There should be as downloads, such as check lists, manuals, maybe even the flight lessons should help you get the basic idea, though X-Plane will handle it more realistically than MSFS. I should also add that XPlane is also used in a lot of those full motion Simulators certified by the FAA. The 747 that comes default in MSFS is highly unrealistic in terms of cockpit accuracy, though there are many add-ons, free and commercial that are a whole lot more accurate.
4> Any other helpful info....
Let put it like this, if you're more into physics realism (that means no Massive blocks that handle like F-16s), get X-Plane. If you like having eye candy, in-game ATC (when offline that is), MSFS might be more down your ally. One more things about X-plane that MSFS dosn't have, from what I remember, if your plane gets damaged, your plane will not freeze in mid air (in other words it "crashed" and reset the flight.) Insted, the proper systems will be damaged and the plane will continue to operate, though with those certain systems that got affected being affected.
It depends, when it comes to flying airliners that traditionally have Yokes, I like having a Flight Sim Yoke, when I bring out the Helicopter and Jet fighters and Airbi, then I like using the sticks.

Thanks LOT 737 - appreciate your insight. The yoke idea sounds better than a crappy keyboard option

02-03-2008, 02:41 AM	#1
Bangkok Lady La 2008 : Garuda Dc10 o/c!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,115	Questions re Flight Sims Howdy I am interested in getting into Flight Sim X but I have no idea what I am really getting myself into thus my post here.... Can anyone who may dabble in this form of armchair flying be able to give me some advice on the following : 1> Whats the best flight sim to fly Widebody style jets ? 2> How do add on's work ? 3> Are there adequate instructions included to effectively learn how to fly say a 747-400 ? 4> Any other helpful info.... Please remember I've never dabbled in pc sim games so treat me stupid () Thanks __________________ Aeroclassics Most Wanted : Garuda Dc10 Thai Dc10 MAS Dc10 Check out my latest Sydney Airport Pics... http://sydneyairport2007.fotopic.net/

02-03-2008, 10:36 AM	#2
Bill-ay Bill-ay the A320 FO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas Age: 14 Posts: 1,985	Re: Questions re Flight Sims 1> There are many different mods that you can buy, a good site is pcaviator.com 2> You just download them, and then most of the time they just go into the FS file on your computer, and you just select the aircraft that you downloaded from the list, and fly! 3> There are various lessons on how to fly jets, props, ultra-lights, helis, etc. So yes, there are. 4> I would buy the FS X Deluxe Edition, it's increadble. __________________ I all widebodied airbuses, except the bulbus A380 View my collection(if you really care, its only HE OG models). http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-4996.html LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80!!! http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos....e=1&display=15

02-03-2008, 11:18 AM	#3
FIRST JET DE PLANE! DE PLANE! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 347	Re: Questions re Flight Sims unfortunetly FSX doesn't WANT to work on certain computers!!! (Like mine ) __________________ Atomic9Studios Home ALIVE 2007! DAFT PUNK!!!!

02-03-2008, 11:24 AM	#4
Bill-ay Bill-ay the A320 FO Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dallas Age: 14 Posts: 1,985	Re: Questions re Flight Sims Ditto to that Hunter! I play it at my friends house who dosnt even care about it! My luck... I can use it on my comp, but I have to lower the graphics, defeats the purpose of buying the deluxe edition! __________________ I all widebodied airbuses, except the bulbus A380 View my collection(if you really care, its only HE OG models). http://www.diecastaircraftforum.com/...tion-4996.html LONG LIVE THE DC-10/A300/A310/MD-80!!! http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos....e=1&display=15

02-03-2008, 04:32 PM	#5
jaffa-200 Hukerunui-Maromaku A one Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Best Country in the world New Zealand!!!! Posts: 123	Re: Questions re Flight Sims FSX is great you just need a powerful computer __________________ lovely pippa!! IM JET LAGGED!! AIRNZ- STARALLIANCE at its best *New Zealand is the best country* You Have to vist this place!!!!!

02-03-2008, 05:14 PM	#7
Bangkok Lady La 2008 : Garuda Dc10 o/c!! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,115	Re: Questions re Flight Sims Wow Guys Thanks 1:200 Freak,Bill-Ay,first Jet and Jaffa 200 - Your feedback is great. Sounds like FSX is the choice, make sure my pc has the power to handle it and download jets from the internet for specific types. I so want to fly an SQ A345 !!!! Awesome! __________________ Aeroclassics Most Wanted : Garuda Dc10 Thai Dc10 MAS Dc10 Check out my latest Sydney Airport Pics... http://sydneyairport2007.fotopic.net/

02-03-2008, 08:19 PM	#8
jaffa-200 Hukerunui-Maromaku A one Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Best Country in the world New Zealand!!!! Posts: 123	Re: Questions re Flight Sims *no problem and get a good joystick to go with it* *It brings the flying into your room!!* __________________ lovely pippa!! IM JET LAGGED!! AIRNZ- STARALLIANCE at its best *New Zealand is the best country* You Have to vist this place!!!!!

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