Can some one explain what this means

diecastconvict · 10-14-2007, 01:08 AM

No man ever yet imagined beauty without imagining more beauty and less; he senses, as the good common phrase has it, the limitations to the expression of beauty.and if he is an artist he puts himself in the place of the man who made the thing of beauty before him, clothes himself in his possibilities, and lives the failure and the success which it records. His word, if honest, is the supreme criticism. By beauty of course I mean truth, for the one involves the other; it is only the false in art which is ugly, and it is only the false which is immoral. The truth may be indecent, but it cannot be vicious, it can never corrupt or deprave; and I should say this in defence of the grossest material honestly treated in modern novels as against the painted and perfumed meretriciousness of the
novels that went before them" (Howells).

L-1011-Heavy · 10-14-2007, 02:16 AM

Whatever It Is, You Won't Find It Here On Dac!

A Tupolev · 10-14-2007, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by diecastconvict

No man ever yet imagined beauty without imagining more beauty and less; he senses, as the good common phrase has it, the limitations to the expression of beauty.and if he is an artist he puts himself in the place of the man who made the thing of beauty before him, clothes himself in his possibilities, and lives the failure and the success which it records. His word, if honest, is the supreme criticism. By beauty of course I mean truth, for the one involves the other; it is only the false in art which is ugly, and it is only the false which is immoral. The truth may be indecent, but it cannot be vicious, it can never corrupt or deprave; and I should say this in defence of the grossest material honestly treated in modern novels as against the painted and perfumed meretriciousness of the
novels that went before them" (Howells).

WTF!

Nobbe · 10-14-2007, 08:07 AM

Are we now supposed to do your homework?

sanverm · 10-14-2007, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Nobbe

Are we now supposed to do your homework?

Seems like it!

gospodin · 10-14-2007, 08:41 AM

This is certainly off-topic. And it has elicited more responses than it should, since this is philosophy, and I don't imagine we have a great many philosophical souls in DAC. Do your own homework, dude.

N. Eberhard · 10-14-2007, 03:00 PM

Great. Today was supposed to be a day full of football and nice fall weather. I did not want to have any heavy thoughts enter my brain but now after reading the first post above, I am screwed.

thanks dude.

Roarer · 10-14-2007, 08:01 PM

Hello there, this is my first post. I've only recently started collecting and have already spent WAY too much!

Watching all the planes at Glasgow Prestwick has gone straight to me head!

Anyway:
Ummm, all I can say is that probably he means that beauty is in truth and honesty, whilst anything false is not, yet, it can contradict it's self with the old maxim 'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder'

How this applies to models, well..... erm..... I guess that the most realistic and faithful models are the best, put in the context given, whilst the ... err, crap ones are crap.

..... Or something like that.

Anyway, hello.

Planecrazy · 10-14-2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diecastconvict

No man ever yet imagined beauty without imagining more beauty and less; he senses, as the good common phrase has it, the limitations to the expression of beauty.and if he is an artist he puts himself in the place of the man who made the thing of beauty before him, clothes himself in his possibilities, and lives the failure and the success which it records. His word, if honest, is the supreme criticism. By beauty of course I mean truth, for the one involves the other; it is only the false in art which is ugly, and it is only the false which is immoral. The truth may be indecent, but it cannot be vicious, it can never corrupt or deprave; and I should say this in defence of the grossest material honestly treated in modern novels as against the painted and perfumed meretriciousness of the
novels that went before them" (Howells).

Did we go off our medication?

Roarer · 10-14-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Planecrazy

Did we go off our medication?

I don't know about him, but I have

10-14-2007, 01:08 AM	#1
diecastconvict Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1	Can some one explain what this means No man ever yet imagined beauty without imagining more beauty and less; he senses, as the good common phrase has it, the limitations to the expression of beauty.and if he is an artist he puts himself in the place of the man who made the thing of beauty before him, clothes himself in his possibilities, and lives the failure and the success which it records. His word, if honest, is the supreme criticism. By beauty of course I mean truth, for the one involves the other; it is only the false in art which is ugly, and it is only the false which is immoral. The truth may be indecent, but it cannot be vicious, it can never corrupt or deprave; and I should say this in defence of the grossest material honestly treated in modern novels as against the painted and perfumed meretriciousness of the novels that went before them" (Howells).

10-14-2007, 02:16 AM	#2
L-1011-Heavy The Heavy One Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada, Eh? Trijets & Landors 4 EVER Age: 45 Posts: 4,361	Re: Can some one explain what this means Whatever It Is, You Won't Find It Here On Dac! __________________ *The Heavy Armada* *"In The Absence Of Excellence, There Is Only Mediocrity."*

10-14-2007, 08:07 AM	#4
Nobbe Insane Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,050	Re: Can some one explain what this means Are we now supposed to do your homework?

10-14-2007, 08:41 AM	#6
gospodin Diecast Blasphemer Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Nosegoblin, LA Age: 52 Posts: 2,737	Re: Can some one explain what this means This is certainly off-topic. And it has elicited more responses than it should, since this is philosophy, and I don't imagine we have a great many philosophical souls in DAC. Do your own homework, dude. __________________ Steve "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

10-14-2007, 03:00 PM	#7
N. Eberhard Dr. Diecast I presume? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 44 Posts: 3,227	Re: Can some one explain what this means Great. Today was supposed to be a day full of football and nice fall weather. I did not want to have any heavy thoughts enter my brain but now after reading the first post above, I am screwed. thanks dude. Last edited by N. Eberhard; 10-14-2007 at 10:03 PM.

10-14-2007, 08:01 PM	#8
Roarer CEO of Haggis Airways. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North of South and East of West, riding on the white wings of the wind my friend, the white wings of the wind. Age: 4 Posts: 770	Re: Can some one explain what this means Hello there, this is my first post. I've only recently started collecting and have already spent WAY too much! Watching all the planes at Glasgow Prestwick has gone straight to me head! Anyway: Ummm, all I can say is that probably he means that beauty is in truth and honesty, whilst anything false is not, yet, it can contradict it's self with the old maxim 'Beauty is in the eye of the beholder' How this applies to models, well..... erm..... I guess that the most realistic and faithful models are the best, put in the context given, whilst the ... err, crap ones are crap. ..... Or something like that. Anyway, hello. Last edited by Roarer; 10-14-2007 at 08:06 PM.

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