Observations

N2272V · 10-04-2005, 01:06 PM

Here's what the Unions in CaliFornia are fighting for:

(1) Continue allowing the Democrat controlled Legislature to re-district to assure they are re-elected.
(2) Increasing Taxes.
(3) Continue to allow Unions to take their membership dues and spend them on Democrats rather than allow the membership to CHOOSE what political parties they want their money spent on.
(4) Increase Taxes.
(5) Continue a false campaign led by the Teachers union using fuzzy math calling a $3 billion increase in the state budget a cut, and want the Governor to spend $2 billion more even though our state has one of the LOWEST rankings in quality of education.
(6) Increase taxes.
(7) Support ever higher socilaization of Government programs regardless of how big a deficit we are in.
(8) Higher taxes.
(9) Prevent the Governor from having a longer wait period before Teachers can become tenured. This way we can have non-performing teachers tenured and be unable to remove them.
(10) Increase Taxes.

Carry on!

JOHN JOHNSON · 10-04-2005, 03:13 PM

But..... I LOVE YOU ALL!

But.... Californian view Tennesseeans as "SQUARE-MIND" and Obesity state! Everytime I am in California and 99% Californian ladies weight under 100 lbs would freak off from me! Hey! I AM A SANTA CLAUS!

Californians, Keep up the good works over there! One day other states will follow you!

cpal_747 · 10-04-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Here's what the Unions in CaliFornia are fighting for:

(7) Support ever higher socilaization of Government programs regardless of how big a deficit we are in.

Carry on!

This could be re-written for GW as:

(7) Support an even bigger troop deployment and weapons spending by Government regardless of how big a deficit we are in.

N2272V · 10-04-2005, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON

Everytime I am in California and 99% Californian ladies weight under 100 lbs would freak off from me!

You OBVIOUSLY are not attending the local Soccer games. I wanna know where all those hot babes are dude! lmao

Carry on!

DeltaFlot · 10-04-2005, 07:40 PM

So what is there stand on taxes?

OSX · 10-04-2005, 08:53 PM

If you can't stant the heat, find another cushy job in Ventura, Co.

Carry On!...

N2272V · 10-04-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OSX

If you can't stant the heat, find another cushy job in Ventura, Co.

Carry On!...

If you're going to use my name dipwad, at least spell it right.

To give you a clue, which wont sink in because there apparently is not much between your ears, I don't have a "cushy" job moron. I run my own business. If you think it is cushy, you try it dorknuts.

Carry on!

A Tupolev · 10-05-2005, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

This could be re-written for GW as:

(7) Support an even bigger troop deployment and weapons spending by Government regardless of how big a deficit we are in.

Another idiot liberal thought. How can you possible connect socialism with protecting the security of our country? The number one responsibility of the federal government and the President is the protection of our country. The President is the “Commander and Chief” of our armed forces. How can you say that protecting the citizens of this country is socialism? How do you compare money grubbing labor unions stealing from the tax payers in California to our armed forces protecting this country?

It’s unbelievable the BS that comes out of liberals mouths.

cpal_747 · 10-05-2005, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by A Tupolev

Another idiot liberal thought. How can you possible connect socialism with protecting the security of our country? The number one responsibility of the federal government and the President is the protection of our country. The President is the “Commander and Chief” of our armed forces. How can you say that protecting the citizens of this country is socialism? How do you compare money grubbing labor unions stealing from the tax payers in California to our armed forces protecting this country?

It’s unbelievable the BS that comes out of liberals mouths.

Are you more or less secure with the US forces in Iraq? Were you fearful of an Iraqi invasion?

..airman · 10-05-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by A Tupolev

How do you compare money grubbing labor unions stealing from the tax payers in California to our armed forces protecting this country?

I thought your troops were in Iraq.......protecting themselves????? But I'm sure they're happy to be there!

N2272V · 10-05-2005, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

Are you more or less secure with the US forces in Iraq? Were you fearful of an Iraqi invasion?

Answer to your FIRST question; Yes I believe that we ARE more secure with US Forces assisting the Iraqi people to achieve Democracy. I know that YOU would rather see the terrorists succeed, but you are in the MINORITY thank God. I also believe that as a result of our actions there, Lebanon will move towards self rule and Libya has joined the sane by denouncing their WMD program. I attribute these events to the actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I also believe that as long as there are misguided Liberals like you making misguided policy decisions and being weak kneed about enforcing UN resolutions on despot nations, we will always be at risk. That is why I will do EVERYTHING in my voting power to KEEP Liberals OUT of policy making positions.

Answer to question TWO; No I was not afraid of an Iraqi invasion on OUR soil, but I was afraid of the destabilizing influence Saddam had in the region in his desire to conquer neighboring Islamic nations. I also believed, and still do believe that Saddam would have done everything he could to obtain WMD's and was a major supporter of terrorism and was an enemy of the USA, as well as, other Democracies throughout the world. I also believe that the WORLD is a safer place without him and I believe that Syria, Iran and North Korea should be the next targets of FREE nations to bring into the realm of men of reason.

I know YOUR retarded logic is similar to the RETARDED logic in the region that Saddam was not a threat. But that is absurd just like most things and positions you take.

People should NEVER ever forget 9-11. Carry on looney tune!

cpal_747 · 10-05-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Answer to your FIRST question; Yes I believe that we ARE more secure with US Forces assisting the Iraqi people to achieve Democracy. I know that YOU would rather see the terrorists succeed, but you are in the MINORITY thank God. I also believe that as a result of our actions there, Lebanon will move towards self rule and Libya has joined the sane by denouncing their WMD program. I attribute these events to the actions in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I also believe that as long as there are misguided Liberals like you making misguided policy decisions and being weak kneed about enforcing UN resolutions on despot nations, we will always be at risk. That is why I will do EVERYTHING in my voting power to KEEP Liberals OUT of policy making positions.

Answer to question TWO; No I was not afraid of an Iraqi invasion on OUR soil, but I was afraid of the destabilizing influence Saddam had in the region in his desire to conquer neighboring Islamic nations. I also believed, and still do believe that Saddam would have done everything he could to obtain WMD's and was a major supporter of terrorism and was an enemy of the USA, as well as, other Democracies throughout the world. I also believe that the WORLD is a safer place without him and I believe that Syria, Iran and North Korea should be the next targets of FREE nations to bring into the realm of men of reason.

I know YOUR retarded logic is similar to the RETARDED logic in the region that Saddam was not a threat. But that is absurd just like most things and positions you take.

People should NEVER ever forget 9-11. Carry on looney tune!

So do you just feel warm and fuzzy knowing that troops are in Iraq, or do you actually have a sense of safety from any terrorists acts now? It's funny how you never mention Saudi Arabia, since most of the terrorists were from there and they received aid from their goverment. I guess that a big trading partner can be forgiven for their little indiscretions as long as the money keeps rolling in.

There you go on about your double standard concerning the UN. You can't say that it's a useless organization that has no real power, and then flip flop and say that the US is "enforcing UN resolutions on despot nations". I like how you will do everything in your voting power, yet when it comes to putting yourself in harms way, you kinda waffle on that point also.

Just keep believing that WMD line, maybe someday they will be able to fabricate evidence so that it appears to be true. Although since the first Gulf War, Iraq was in no position to be a threat to anyone, and could barely look after it's own people. I also notice how you never mention anything about helping the people of Chechyna or even the oppressed people in China, I guess it is easier to take on countries that can't really harm the US, rather than nations that could easily wipe it out.

7/7 Never Forget!

N2272V · 10-05-2005, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

So do you just feel warm and fuzzy knowing that troops are in Iraq, or do you actually have a sense of safety from any terrorists acts now? It's funny how you never mention Saudi Arabia, since most of the terrorists were from there and they received aid from their goverment. I guess that a big trading partner can be forgiven for their little indiscretions as long as the money keeps rolling in.

Why is it that you keep asking the same old questions over and over again?

It's obvious, you're stuck on STUPID.

Dismissed looney tune.

N2272V · 10-05-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

.....Iraq was in no position to be a threat to anyone, and could barely look after it's own people.

Once again, you're stuck on STUPID. I suppose murdering his own people is fine with you. If anyone has a double standard here, it certainly is you. You like to argue in never ending circles with your absurd notions about Politics and Terrorists. It's not surprising seeing that you are an America hating, Terrorist loving looney tune.

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

I also notice how you never mention anything about helping the people of Chechyna .....

Last time I looked, the people of Chechnya never invaded a soveriegn nation and illegally declared their independence from Russia. This is a civil war. As for the civil war, why would I support people who do this?:

"over 700 hostages were taken during the Moscow theater hostage crisis and in Beslan in September 2004, during the Beslan school hostage crisis where 1,200 were taken hostage at a school and over 330 were killed – half of whom were children. "

Oh yeah, I forgot, you support terrorism.

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

......or even the oppressed people in China, I guess it is easier to take on countries that can't really harm the US, rather than nations that could easily wipe it out.

This is another moronic position which again illustrates how you are stuck on Stupid. People in China could easily rise up and overthrow their government. The fact is, in most part, the Chinese people support their government and I haven't seen any instances where the Government is gassing it's population. To compare China to Iraq is a lame effort to obscure the real issues in the Middle East and is like comparing Apples to Celery.

Now go see someone about that head-in-ass syndrome you appear to be afflicted with. Dismissed.

Hapag-Lloyd · 10-05-2005, 02:28 PM

One of the bad parts about the US no longer carrying the proverbial big stick because they are currently using it in Iraq is that this very stick can´t be used to scare Iran out of its nuclear dreams - and the Iranians know that.

cpal_747 · 10-05-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Once again, you're stuck on STUPID. I suppose murdering his own people is fine with you. If anyone has a double standard here, it certainly is you. You like to argue in never ending circles with your absurd notions about Politics and Terrorists. It's not surprising seeing that you are an America hating, Terrorist loving looney tune.

Last time I looked, the people of Chechnya never invaded a soveriegn nation and illegally declared their independence from Russia. This is a civil war. As for the civil war, why would I support people who do this?:

"over 700 hostages were taken during the Moscow theater hostage crisis and in Beslan in September 2004, during the Beslan school hostage crisis where 1,200 were taken hostage at a school and over 330 were killed – half of whom were children. "

Oh yeah, I forgot, you support terrorism.

This is another moronic position which again illustrates how you are stuck on Stupid. People in China could easily rise up and overthrow their government. The fact is, in most part, the Chinese people support their government and I haven't seen any instances where the Government is gassing it's population. To compare China to Iraq is a lame effort to obscure the real issues in the Middle East and is like comparing Apples to Celery.

Now go see someone about that head-in-*** syndrome you appear to be afflicted with. Dismissed.

So Americans killing and torturing Iraqis is fine, but if they do it to each other then that it's not okay. Abu Gharib, never forget! Since Bush likes messing up Who lyrics, he should have used "Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss"!

So when the USSR broke apart, how is it that everyone else that declared their independence, achieved that goal, but when Chechyna did it according to you they "illegally declared their independence from Russia." Who did kill all those people in the Moscow theater? Here's a hint, It wasn't the Chechyn's using nerve gas.

"People in China could easily rise up and overthrow their government." This is about the most moronic statement that you have made, and that is really saying something. I guess Tiananmen square is just too far in the past for you, although it took place just a bit before the first Gulf War. Here is a nice image that shows how the Chinese goverment handles peaceful protests from it's citizens:

Just imagine how they would handle an open armed revolt!

JustPlaneCrazy · 10-05-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

So when the USSR broke apart, how is it that everyone else that declared their independence, achieved that goal, but when Chechyna did it according to you they "illegally declared their independence from Russia." Who did kill all those people in the Moscow theater? Here's a hint, It wasn't the Chechyn's using nerve gas.

I can tell by these statements that you have no clue what's going on over there, but that's typical for you

N2272V · 10-05-2005, 03:51 PM

Yep, with Cpal one thing is certain. You will go round and round in endless circles of absurdity until you eventually forget what the original debate was about. Suffice it to say that he loves Terrorists, and hates America. What more does one need to know about the moron.

Carry on!

N2272V · 10-05-2005, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hapag-Lloyd

One of the bad parts about the US no longer carrying the proverbial big stick because they are currently using it in Iraq is that this very stick can´t be used to scare Iran out of its nuclear dreams - and the Iranians know that.

Wrong again Hapag. What the Iranians know is that OTHER countries, like Germany and France, will work against the US in it's MiddleEast policies, on the ground, and in the UN.

This is what emboldens them.

Carry on!

cpal_747 · 10-05-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

I can tell by these statements that you have no clue what's going on over there, but that's typical for you

And with your mail order bride connections to the evil empire, just what is going on over there. Are you saying that the Chechyn's and hostages weren't killed by the Russian government? Who do you think did it then?

JustPlaneCrazy · 10-05-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

And with your mail order bride connections to the evil empire, just what is going on over there. Are you saying that the Chechyn's and hostages weren't killed by the Russian government? Who do you think did it then?

Typical response, quite frankly, your not worth the trouble....

cpal_747 · 10-05-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Yep, with Cpal one thing is certain. You will go round and round in endless circles of absurdity until you eventually forget what the original debate was about. Suffice it to say that he loves Terrorists, and hates America. What more does one need to know about the moron.

Carry on!

Speaking of circles of absurdity, this one quote "People in China could easily rise up and overthrow their government" really takes the top prize.

I also love how questioning decisions, means that you hate America and love the terrorists. So what does following blindly mean, that you love both the terrorists and America? Don't worry Jimbo, if you can't answer these questions and get scared, just slap a Canadian flag on your backpack and everything will be alright.

10-04-2005, 01:06 PM	#1
N2272V Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Age: 54 Posts: 2,110	Observations Here's what the Unions in CaliFornia are fighting for: (1) Continue allowing the Democrat controlled Legislature to re-district to assure they are re-elected. (2) Increasing Taxes. (3) Continue to allow Unions to take their membership dues and spend them on Democrats rather than allow the membership to CHOOSE what political parties they want their money spent on. (4) Increase Taxes. (5) Continue a false campaign led by the Teachers union using fuzzy math calling a $3 billion increase in the state budget a cut, and want the Governor to spend $2 billion more even though our state has one of the LOWEST rankings in quality of education. (6) Increase taxes. (7) Support ever higher socilaization of Government programs regardless of how big a deficit we are in. (8) Higher taxes. (9) Prevent the Governor from having a longer wait period before Teachers can become tenured. This way we can have non-performing teachers tenured and be unable to remove them. (10) Increase Taxes. Carry on!

10-04-2005, 03:13 PM	#2
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Oh.... Typically California! But..... I LOVE YOU ALL! But.... Californian view Tennesseeans as "SQUARE-MIND" and Obesity state! Everytime I am in California and 99% Californian ladies weight under 100 lbs would freak off from me! Hey! I AM A SANTA CLAUS! Californians, Keep up the good works over there! One day other states will follow you! __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

10-04-2005, 07:40 PM	#5
DeltaFlot The Patriot Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Laurel, MD Age: 36 Posts: 3,228	So what is there stand on taxes? __________________ Febuary 15, 1898 December 7, 1941 June 8, 1967 September 11, 2001 Never Forget, Never Forgive If you kick the Tiger in the arse, you better be able to deal with the Tiger's teeth.

10-04-2005, 08:53 PM	#6
OSX Master Fabricator Join Date: May 2000 Location: Atherton, CA Posts: 4	Jim MacDonald, proud member of Local 998... If you can't stant the heat, find another cushy job in Ventura, Co. Carry On!...

10-05-2005, 02:28 PM	#15
Hapag-Lloyd Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 2,395	One of the bad parts about the US no longer carrying the proverbial big stick because they are currently using it in Iraq is that this very stick can´t be used to scare Iran out of its nuclear dreams - and the Iranians know that. __________________ THIS SPACE 4 RENT!!!

10-05-2005, 03:51 PM	#18
N2272V Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Age: 54 Posts: 2,110	Duh Yep, with Cpal one thing is certain. You will go round and round in endless circles of absurdity until you eventually forget what the original debate was about. Suffice it to say that he loves Terrorists, and hates America. What more does one need to know about the moron. Carry on!