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Old 10-04-2005, 12:56 PM   #1
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Top ten things I believe the Democrats stand for:

(1) Removing God or any religion from ALL public places.
(2) Increasing taxes
(3) Forcing a minority view on the majority of the population.
(4) Increasing taxes
(5) America LOSING the war against terrorism and withdrawing too early from Iraq.
(6) Increasing taxes.
(7) Removing Patriotism from any debate and removing the Pledge of Allegiance from our schools.
(8) Increasing taxes.
(9) Bigger more Socialist Government while destroying Big American corporations like Haliburton, Wallmart and McDonald's.
(10) Increasing taxes.

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Now would I be right to think that under Bill Clinton the democrats were the only party for a LONG time to actually balance the deficit in the USA? And then wasn't that eroded almost overnight when Bush turned up?
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:15 PM   #3
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Now would I be right to think that under Bill Clinton the democrats were the only party for a LONG time to actually balance the deficit in the USA? And then wasn't that eroded almost overnight when Bush turned up?
No you would be incorrect.

First, Bill Clinton's legacy is as follows:
After putting in place one of the LARGEST tax increases in the history of politics, the American people voted in, for the first time in 30 years, a Republican majority in the House and Senate. THEN, this NEW Conservative majority under Newt Gingrich's leadership implemented the contract for America, they went to work in reducing the deficit and spending. For your information, it is not the President who authorizes spending, it is the CONGRESS.

Second, the surplus was eroded overnight by the biggest terrorist attack in the history of the world called 9-11, NOT George Bush or the Congress. I know that Liberals would like to pretend that this event never happened, but it did. It was an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist declaration of war and attack on our way of life and an attempt to destroy our society.

Instead of destroying us, we continue to have one of the strongest economies in the world thanks to George Bush's leadership. Now I know that Liberals hate the thought that we are successful and try every day to tell us that we are failing, but the facts speak for themselves.

I know you would like to re-write history here, but not on my watch. So thank you for allowing me to clarify your misplaced perceptions.

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Thanks for that. I am at the end of the day a brit and do not necessarily know how things work in the US.

I think it is fair to say though that Bush's foreign policy is nonsense. He uses our country when it suits him and abuses us the rest of the time. In addition he appears to prefer to fulfill personal aims and agendas rather than those of the american people.

Having said that, this could well be the typical Conservative/Labour (ie Democrat) argument that we could have in the UK. The thing is that all parties have good points and bad points. Furthermore, if politics didn't get in the way then some damned good policies etc could be worked out, but party politics dictates that one must object to anything the other party says.

I think enough from me on this topic.

Now where did that picture go of Bush looking the wrong way through binoculars.....???
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Old 10-04-2005, 02:28 PM   #5
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I think enough from me on this topic.

Now where did that picture go of Bush looking the wrong way through binoculars.....???
That was a spoof picture dude. They had the same one for all the previous Presidents too. lmao.

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Old 10-04-2005, 03:16 PM   #6
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I think all of Democrats and Republicans need to have our eyes check up!

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Old 10-04-2005, 03:48 PM   #7
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That was a spoof picture dude. They had the same one for all the previous Presidents too. lmao.

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Perhaps, but have you seen a more believable spoof????
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Old 10-04-2005, 08:20 PM   #8
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Jimmy Bubblejack! I sometimes wonder whether you do other things than posting Democrats versus Republicans on the DACnet? What's your problem in the first place anyway? Why don´t you just relax?
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Ugh, the twisted misperceptions of a lonely, sex-starved pedantic twit. Get over yourself, Jackboot.
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Ugh, the twisted misperceptions of a lonely, sex-starved pedantic twit. Get over yourself, Jackboot.
Gee, lonely sex-starved pedantic twit. Yep, that surely describes your pathetic life Dr. Dumb. Do post more of your inane nonsense. It provides entertainment and proof that the moderators of this website don't really put their money where their mouths are when it comes to dumb, insulting and irrelevant postings.

I bet you could get more play on Buzz. The retards there would think this is funny. Dismissed looney tune.
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Oh, the pot calling the kettle black. Of course, YOUR posts should never be moderated, right. You still having wet dreams about granddaddy´s past, when he could kill anybody who opposed to his prevailing opinion?

Go play on the interstate.
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......You still having wet dreams about granddaddy´s past, when he could kill anybody who opposed to his prevailing opinion?

Go play on the interstate.
You are SERIOUSLY stuck on stupid. Posting such offensive BS, shows you for the clueless twit that you are, not to mention intellectually stupid.

Dismissed looney tune.
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You are SERIOUSLY stuck on stupid. Posting such offensive BS, shows you for the clueless twit that you are, not to mention intellectually stupid.

Dismissed looney tune.
Boo-hoo. Want some cheese with that whine?
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Boo-hoo. Want some cheese with that whine?
No whining here looney tune. Just pointing out what a pathetic moron you truly are making such absurd and offensive comments. But then, you are a Liberal and Liberals do excel in insults and absurdity.

Carry on by all means.
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Just pointing out what a pathetic moron you truly are making such absurd and offensive comments.
Well, you failed. Not the first time and not the last, but you failed. Miserably.
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First, Bill Clinton's legacy is as follows:
After putting in place one of the LARGEST tax increases in the history of politics, the American people voted in, for the first time in 30 years, a Republican majority in the House and Senate.

I know you would like to re-write history here, but not on my watch. So thank you for allowing me to clarify your misplaced perceptions.

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President Reagan oversaw some very large cuts in the top income tax rates. He also approved the largest tax increase in American history -- hiking wage taxes by about a third.

For 7 out of 10 American households, payroll taxes represent the largest tax burden. Reagan's legacy, in terms of taxes, was to greatly increase the burden for 70 percent of Americans, while reducing the share of taxes paid by the wealthiest third of the country. President Ronald Reagan raised taxes on most Americans. By a lot.

Continuing that unrelenting fall into insanity ..I bid you farewell....carry on Wacko
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Second, the surplus was eroded overnight by the biggest terrorist attack in the history of the world called 9-11, NOT George Bush or the Congress. I know that Liberals would like to pretend that this event never happened, but it did. It was an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist declaration of war and attack on our way of life and an attempt to destroy our society.


I know you would like to re-write history here, but not on my watch. So thank you for allowing me to clarify your misplaced perceptions.

Carry on!
Chop Chop Chop...Jimbo Jimbo Jimbo......

When Bush took office in 2001, everything changed. The economy faltered, yet the administration went ahead with its tax cuts, most of which benefited the well-to-do.

Then 9/11 occurred, but the administration insisted the tax cuts had to go forward, regardless. Then the decision was made to attack Iraq, but the tax cuts remained untouchable. A year or so later, the administration pushed through a so-called Medicare prescription drug plan that will cost the nation another $500 billion or so, most of it landing in the hands of the drug companies. But the tax cuts continue.

The dillusional freefall into insanity continues

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Chop Chop Chop...Jimbo Jimbo Jimbo......

When Bush took office in 2001, everything changed. The economy faltered, yet the administration went ahead with its tax cuts, most of which benefited the well-to-do.
What I'm still having a hard with here is this Lib argument you seem to be stuck on. Draw me a picture here because I'm just not getting it. EXACTLY HOW ARE PEOPLE WHO PAY NO TAXES SUPPOSED TO BENEFIT FROM TAX CUTS? Thank you in advance for you consideration.

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What I'm still having a hard with here is this Lib argument you seem to be stuck on. Draw me a picture here because I'm just not getting it. EXACTLY HOW ARE PEOPLE WHO PAY NO TAXES SUPPOSED TO BENEFIT FROM TAX CUTS? Thank you in advance for you consideration.
The tax cuts were top heavy; that is, most of the tax changes were targeted towards higher income earners, who are typically more likely to save money than to spend it – the opposite of what the economy needed. In the first five years of the tax cuts, those earning more than $200,000 a year received an estimated tax cut that was 12 times as large as the average. Across all tax changes enacted under President Bush, the nonpartisan Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy estimated that middle-class families saw a tax cut of 7 to 8 percent, compared to a 12 percent cut for the richest 1 percent.

Now just what is the your question. I quess you are admitting the rich have ways to dodge taxes and don't pay any? What defines well to to do? Lets take your buddy Bush, he's well to do, what was his tax cut compared to mine or yours. at the end of the day its the middle class that drives everything, we far outnumber any other category.

Back to the point, the deficit, 7 trillion 2004 , proposed 8 trillion by end of this year. when did it ever go down as Jimbo implied it would "continue doing". What fantasy world is he living in?
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...ack to the point, the deficit, 7 trillion 2004 , proposed 8 trillion by end of this year. when did it ever go down as Jimbo implied it would "continue doing". What fantasy world is he living in?
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I think I forgot my camera at your house yesterday. Don't put it on ebay nor in the dumpster. The shelves you gave me are a great base for my soon to be made tarmac/display. I thank you very much for them.

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The tax cuts were top heavy; that is, most of the tax changes were targeted towards higher income earners, who are typically more likely to save money than to spend it – the opposite of what the economy needed. In the first five years of the tax cuts, those earning more than $200,000 a year received an estimated tax cut that was 12 times as large as the average. Across all tax changes enacted under President Bush, the nonpartisan Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy estimated that middle-class families saw a tax cut of 7 to 8 percent, compared to a 12 percent cut for the richest 1 percent.

Now just what is the your question. I quess you are admitting the rich have ways to dodge taxes and don't pay any? What defines well to to do? Lets take your buddy Bush, he's well to do, what was his tax cut compared to mine or yours. at the end of the day its the middle class that drives everything, we far outnumber any other category.

Back to the point, the deficit, 7 trillion 2004 , proposed 8 trillion by end of this year. when did it ever go down as Jimbo implied it would "continue doing". What fantasy world is he living in?

Are you having much luck creating coverts with this BS?
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:16 PM   #23
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President Reagan oversaw some very large cuts in the top income tax rates. He also approved the largest tax increase in American history -- hiking wage taxes by about a third.

For 7 out of 10 American households, payroll taxes represent the largest tax burden. Reagan's legacy, in terms of taxes, was to greatly increase the burden for 70 percent of Americans, while reducing the share of taxes paid by the wealthiest third of the country. President Ronald Reagan raised taxes on most Americans. By a lot.

Continuing that unrelenting fall into insanity ..I bid you farewell....carry on Wacko
I find it amusing that you ignore the fact that 9-11 DID have a significant impact on our budget. Not surprising because as a Liberal, you have to pretend it never occurred.

I find it EQUALLY amusing when Liberals continue to point to tax increases as the end-all to all political and social problems when all evidence points to the contrary. It is disingenuous for Liberals, like you, to point to Reagan as having increased taxes without being honest that the democratically controlled congress promised spending CUTS which, to Reagan’s chagrin, never materialized. But then, seeing that you CHOOSE to bring up Reagan, here are the facts regarding his legacy:


The 'REAGAN ERA' was revolutionary, AND an instructive pointer for the future

(1) The first era in 50 years that the private sector share of the economy was not reduced by government expanding its share of the economic pie faster than economic growth. In fact, government's share was reduced for the first time.

(2) Federal social spending ratios stopped rising, and fell, for the first time in over 3 decades.

(3) The early 1980s was the first interruption in the rapid up-swing of federal regulatory activity spending in 2 decades. In fact, during the 1980s, said spending declined in real terms - - only to resume its fast upward pace in the 1990s.
(4) Taxes were reduced by large amounts, and the economy expanded together with a new climate of competition and regulatory burden reductions.
(5) A decade of declining real median family income was reversed to the upside.
(6) Double digit inflation and interest rates were eliminated.

(7) Debt increased due to lack of congressional spending cuts following tax cut approval, but debt ratios were higher 9 years later.

(8) International terrorism was faced head-on, and hostage-taking of U.S. citizens was eliminated.

(9) The Evil Empire was brought to its knees, without increasing the defense spending ratio, ending a 40-year cold war.

(10) A 2-decade slide in voter turnout and citizen trust in government was reversed, only to collapse to new lows in the 1990s.

Regardless of what occurred when Reagan took office, his policy was correct in his desire to reduce Government dependency and reduce taxation. Whether ALL of his goals were achieved, or could have been achieved with the majority Democrats in congress will be subject matter for years of debate.

The facts remain that Liberals, like you Steve, support a campaign of character assassination of the White House, attacks on the character and ability of our military in the conduct of the Iraq war and you bring no solutions to the table other than hate Bush and raise taxes. Sorry dude, your party stands for nothing, and is irrelevant just as all your Left Wing whining and rants on this forum.

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