JOHN JOHNSON

http://www.comcast.net/news/national...13/220427.html

Hey Jimmie, Here is your kleenex!


This is a good news for Dumbocrats!!!

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STEVEJ

Its Bill and Hillary Clinton and the biased media that is responsible here, just ask Jimbo!

ZX1100F1

It took only 4 Days to move 19,000 troops, their gear, food, water, machines and equipment into a war torn flooded disaster of a city and people think that someone should be apologizing?
And all this after a mandatory evacuation order was put into effect more than a day before the storm hit the coast and everyone was told that; “there would be nobody around to help you if you choose to stay.”

Now I’m no huge George W Bush fan but I think that the local officials are the ones that should shoulder most of the blame, they failed to respond with even a marginal plan and let nearly 100% of the resources that they had available to them go unused in the day preceding and following the storm.
They just mugged for the camera every chance they got blaming it all on the feds.

richie154

Yeah...actually I don't think Bush or Brown (head of FEMA?) is to blame. This was a total breakdown of local and federal government, and as ZXF1056131 mentioned, people either deciding to stick around or people who weren't able to leave.

I just hope it's not going to be this ugly when the 'big one' hits California.

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The more things change, the more Mesa still sucks.

JustPlaneCrazy

Well damn, I applaud Richie for being honest I know he is not a fan of Bush, in fact he despises him but Richie did not choose to use the hurricane as an excuse to bash Bush......well done Richie!

Planecrazy

President Bush in his apology brought up the "...serious problems in response at all levels of government..." and addressed the most important point, to wit, is this nation equipped to quickly respond to massive natural or terrorist made disasters. So far by their performance, the answer is no.

I worked for the State of Michigan in grant administration for five years before quitting in disgust, returning to university and getting an MBA and going into private business administration. Working for the State engendered in me a hatred of bureauricies.

Governmental agencies are set up to control the disbursement of funds. You are punished if you can not meticuously account for every penny. It is their very nature to be very slow and cautious in giving out money or goods. The military suffers from the same condition when war comes after many years of peace. It takes some time to sort out the paper pushers who were promoted in peacetime and replace them with the aggressive commanders willing to direct their attention to fighting rather than accounting for every bullet.

Now, how do you set up an agency, be it at the State and/or Federal level and get them to retain the aggressive culture necessary to quickly act and disburse massive amounts of cash and material assets on short notice? It is not like the military who can hold war games. You can pretend around a conference table but how do you practice giving away the store?

This is why in every calamity in the past the responders were almost always criticized for slow response. Don't hold your breath for any real improvement!

Chansen

See a state problem, should be handled by state first. For which they did. Then to have federal step in. Now as for time. It would have been hard to as for what I heard of time schedules. And I have heard that the local government refused to improve levies. So I would always blame the first responders those on the local level if incompetence occurred.

JOHN JOHNSON

The Government refuse to improve ___________ whatsover whenever it comes to $$$ without twice-think! Typically here in the South!

Not a surprising. I agree with you, Dr. CraigH.

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N2272V

Timeline of events as they unfolded without the absurd cliams of looney Liberals and the bias of mainstream media reporters trying to make hysterical claims of racism, lack of response, the War in Iraq and budget cuts the story:

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/ar...14whitelaw.htm

Read, become educated and engage your brains. Carry on!

N2272V

This is what is known as a REALITY check. It happens suddenly and destroys previously conceived notions and perceptions we hold before we are exposed to the REAL world.

This will also occur when working for a large corporation. There is very little difference between the two.

Carry on!

N2272V

Why? Is it because now they will make the claim that he DID screw up? Gee, you don't like him because he won't take responsibility or his lip doesn't quiver while talking about the tragedy, and you criticise him because he takes responsibility.

The bottom line is this: NEVER give in to the Democrats demands for appologies, NEVER give Democrats anything that does not fit into your conservative agenda and NEVER go back on a promise to your base.

Democrats will NEVER like Republicans even when they are given what they wanted, so the message here is, NEVER give in to them if it is against your principles or agenda. Bush's daddy made this mistake with his "no new taxes" pledge and it became the campaign cry for the Democrats and turned against him.

Carry on!

ZX1100F1

Well,
This short story really doesn't answer any of my questions or debunk anybody's previous comments, it just glosses over a few things (what little this writer was obviously privy to) that transpired prior to the storm, but what happened to all the effort and planning once the storm hit? It all went away almost entirely (along with the governor) while the mayor blamed everything on everybody else while utilizing every conceivable swear word while getting an incredible amount of air-time on CNN.

My question is simple;

What f*cking part of "Catogory-5 Hurricane" did these people not understand?

ZX1100F1

Holy crap!
Thanks for defining this for us, we would have never guessed (even though that is exactly what Planecrazy said).

N2272V

No argument here. The point made in the story is that there were troops mobilized, there were plans in place and the evacuation order was given. I don't see where anyone was negligent. What I do see is that once the water started pouring through the levies, it threw the plans into disaray as it cut off most routes into the area and prevented rescue and salvage workers from getting where they were needed. Again, this was the REALITY of what occurred. I don't blame anyone.

As a matter of fact, I commend the rescue and people of the US who once again showed their compassion and generosity to their fellow American's in need.

Carry on!

N2272V

I'd like you to get a reality check and get that fat head of yours out of your ass. I didn't define anything for "us" dipstick.

Just what I need. Another psycho who hates "sea green" font taking every opportunity to throw his worthless two cents worth in.

Dismissed.

richie154

What's with the "dismissed" or "Carry on" BS? You think your a DI now?

Carry on, Semper Fi!

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Private Pilot: 10/20/2005
Private Multi Engine: 05/09/2008
The more things change, the more Mesa still sucks.

ZX1100F1

You tend to fixate on just a few stupid words don't you, you liberal, reality checking moron?

Carry on you irritating idiot, your broken record, one reply to everything nature just makes you look like the dipschit that you are.

N2272V

Yeah, the same words you tend to fixate on dipshit.

I hope you do something about that irritation. I hear it is caused by head up your ass syndrome. You better get it checked because you're starting to annoy me with your idiotic input about how irritating I am.

Dismissed.

N2272V

Richie, you keep acting like your opinion of me matters. It doesn't. I think you and your psycho buddies Dave and TomBlo should get into a BIG circle jerk and pretend like you all have a real purpose in life.

Gawd you morons really crack me up. I bet you all PM each other to decide what clever idiotic comment you will make next. I can't wait till you come up with another moronic comment about pilots bending firewalls or busting TFR's. May you never be one of them. Even though you are a complete asshole, I'd hate to see that happen to anyone, even a moron like you.

Idiots like you, Tomblo and Dave make my day. Gives me something to respond to.

Dismissed looney tune.

psalover

He needs not worry,does he?

Chansen

Moms should go do something more productive on Sundays!