Bush's FEMA report card?

JOHN JOHNSON · 09-09-2005, 06:25 PM

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cf...dcn=todaysnews

Hey Jimmie, Here is your kleenex. There is negativity against two Bushes.....

Do not worry! Hillary Clinton is comming to your rescuse! You lucky bastard!

N2272V · 09-10-2005, 02:45 PM

Sound Familiar?

http://www.emergency.com/femafurr.htm

Here's an exerpt:

THE FURY OVER FEMA, PRESIDENT-ELECT CLINTON'S OPPORTUNITY
By Paul Anderson, EmergencyNet NEWS Correspondent
Chicago, IL - The fury of Hurricane Andrew, Hurricane Iniki, Hurricane Hugo, the Los Angeles Riots, and the San Francisco earthquake can not be equaled by the feelings some devastated disaster victims have towards our nation's lead emergency management agency. Pointed criticism and tales of ineptitude, insensitively, and "foot-dragging" continue to plague the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and it's leadership.

"One of the most basic problems, and most frequent criticisms of FEMA is that they aren't prepared for those critical first, few, days after a major disaster occurs", according to Clark Staten of the Chicago-based Emergency Response & Research Institute. "This was particularly true of Hurricane Andrew, where local emergency response agencies were unable to provide even the very rudimentary rescue/medical care services that were required", Staten continued. "Unfortunately, people seem to have developed an attitude that FEMA and the U.S. Military can come and `rescue' them within a moments' notice...when that doesn't happen they are disappointed, hurt, and angry", the veteran emergency manager added.

I guess the only difference between todays furor over preparedness is the fact that today you have a Republican Administration in charge and a Democrat minority willing to make any absurd claim it can to discredit George Bush.

So please, spare me the Rhetoric. Carry on!

cpal_747 · 09-10-2005, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2272V

Sound Familiar?

http://www.emergency.com/femafurr.htm

Here's an exerpt:

THE FURY OVER FEMA, PRESIDENT-ELECT CLINTON'S OPPORTUNITY
By Paul Anderson, EmergencyNet NEWS Correspondent
Chicago, IL - The fury of Hurricane Andrew, Hurricane Iniki, Hurricane Hugo, the Los Angeles Riots, and the San Francisco earthquake can not be equaled by the feelings some devastated disaster victims have towards our nation's lead emergency management agency. Pointed criticism and tales of ineptitude, insensitively, and "foot-dragging" continue to plague the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and it's leadership.

"One of the most basic problems, and most frequent criticisms of FEMA is that they aren't prepared for those critical first, few, days after a major disaster occurs", according to Clark Staten of the Chicago-based Emergency Response & Research Institute. "This was particularly true of Hurricane Andrew, where local emergency response agencies were unable to provide even the very rudimentary rescue/medical care services that were required", Staten continued. "Unfortunately, people seem to have developed an attitude that FEMA and the U.S. Military can come and `rescue' them within a moments' notice...when that doesn't happen they are disappointed, hurt, and angry", the veteran emergency manager added.

I guess the only difference between todays furor over preparedness is the fact that today you have a Republican Administration in charge and a Democrat minority willing to make any absurd claim it can to discredit George Bush.

So please, spare me the Rhetoric. Carry on!

The difference is that those Democrats would actually acknowledge their mistakes and hold people accountable. Unlike this administration where noone seems to be held accountable!

N2272V · 09-10-2005, 03:17 PM

Tell me oh witless Canadork, how did the Clinton administration acknowledge they made a mistake? Tell me oh witless one, how Bush is not holding anyone accountable for this disaster, assuming of course that one believes that the Goverment didn't do it's job, which itself is an absurdity?

Only a mental midget like you can make such absurd claims about accountability when we are confronting a major disaster and the Government, once again, is doing everything they can and we are 12 days into the relief efforts.

The absurdity of your positions is illustrated by the fact that it ignores the culpability of Cities who allow growth in flood plains, citizens who ignore the call to evacuate, the logistics of getting help to areas that look like a nuclear bomb went off in them, etc etc etc.

Why do you try to ACT like your rhetoric is more than just that? Empty rhetoric. You don't care about accountability, you just want to mouth off with more of your divisive verbal diatribe for only ONE purpose: To somehow lend some slight credibility to the false philiosophy you hold about being a Liberal, that when examined, holds very little logic or credibilty.

Dismissed looney tune....be gone witless one.

cpal_747 · 09-10-2005, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2272V

Tell me oh witless Canadork, how did the Clinton administration acknowledge they made a mistake? Tell me oh witless one, how Bush is not holding anyone accountable for this disaster, assuming of course that one believes that the Goverment didn't do it's job, which itself is an absurdity?

Only a mental midget like you can make such absurd claims about accountability when we are confronting a major disaster and the Government, once again, is doing everything they can and we are 12 days into the relief efforts.

The absurdity of your positions is illustrated by the fact that it ignores the culpability of Cities who allow growth in flood plains, citizens who ignore the call to evacuate, the logistics of getting help to areas that look like a nuclear bomb went off in them, etc etc etc.

Why do you try to ACT like your rhetoric is more than just that? Empty rhetoric. You don't care about accountability, you just want to mouth off with more of your divisive verbal diatribe for only ONE purpose: To somehow lend some slight credibility to the false philiosophy you hold about being a Liberal, that when examined, holds very little logic or credibilty.

Dismissed looney tune....be gone witless one.

He clearly held Brown accountable, he told him "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job". What a tongue lashing he gave him.

N2272V · 09-10-2005, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpal_747

He clearly held Brown accountable, he told him "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job". What a tongue lashing he gave him.

I guess you didn't comprehend what I stated. WHAT, if anything, has Brown done wrong? My point, for those suffering from Liberal Indistinguishable Reality Syndrome or LIRS (pronounced Liars), is that the disaster relief is ongoing and massive. The response times were what would be expected in such a monstrous calamity.

To suggest that ANYONE has done anything wrong at this time is illogical, inane and requires someone to be suffering from LIRS syndrome. However in your case it is more pronounced. You also suffer from HALT syndrome (Hate America Love Terrorists) as well.

Dismissed looney tune!

cpal_747 · 09-10-2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2272V

I guess you didn't comprehend what I stated. WHAT, if anything, has Brown done wrong? My point, for those suffering from Liberal Indistinguishable Reality Syndrome or LIRS (pronounced Liars), is that the disaster relief is ongoing and massive. The response times were what would be expected in such a monstrous calamity.

To suggest that ANYONE has done anything wrong at this time is illogical, inane and requires someone to be suffering from LIRS syndrome. However in your case it is more pronounced. You also suffer from HALT syndrome (Hate America Love Terrorists) as well.

Dismissed looney tune!

So when your hero GW, said "The results are not acceptable" regarding Katrina aid, which syndrome was he suffering from?

N2272V · 09-10-2005, 10:38 PM

Here's the REST of the story for those of you suffering from severe cases of LIRS:

"Where it's not working right, we're going to make it right," the president said after walking through a devastated neighborhood of Mobile, Alabama. "Where it is working right, we're going to duplicate it elsewhere."

Bush faulted efforts to restore order in New Orleans, where looting, violence and other crimes have been rampant. Asked what he meant by unacceptable results, Bush said, "Well, I'm talking about the fact that we don't have enough security in New Orleans yet." He said 1,200 National Guard troops arrived there on Friday and that 1,200 were deployed on Thursday.

"They need to stabilize that situation," the president said. "They need to make sure that the food and medicine that is in place is given to the people that need the food and medicine."

He said he was not faulting efforts in Mississippi, where Republican Gov. Haley Barbour praised federal help. Still, Barbour said, "We've suffered a grievous blow that we won't recover from for a long while."

JOHN JOHNSON · 09-10-2005, 10:41 PM

This would be interesting whether the state of Louisian would be either red nor blue.

Hate to burst your red-ego if LA should happen to turn blue.

N2272V · 09-10-2005, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON

This would be interesting whether the state of Louisian would be either red nor blue.

Hate to burst your red-ego if LA should happen to turn blue.

Well Johnny, I'm not sure if you know this, but LA IS BLUE and California voted overwhlemingly for John Kerry and is a BLUE state.

Just thought you would like to know that. The shocker is that Louisianna with all it's Democrats in charge of the state went RED for Bush.

As for 2008, we shall see Johnny. I will make my predictions when we have candidates. Right now, I don't see the Democrats putting forth anyone or a program that will get them elected.

We shall see.

STEVEJ · 09-13-2005, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2272V

I guess you didn't comprehend what I stated. WHAT, if anything, has Brown done wrong?
To suggest that ANYONE has done anything wrong at this time is illogical, inane and requires someone to be suffering from LIRS syndrome.
Dismissed looney tune!

"This has always been a story about cronyism, and the human lives it may have cost. And now we know that not only did Brown lack the qualifications to lead FEMA, he also lacked the legal qualifications to serve as its general counsel, his first position at the agency. It's not just Brown who should be fired... it's the incompetent president who appointed him."

So now Brown has stepped down and left FEMA. I suppose the "media" will get most of the blame, then there will accusations that Clinton did the same thing (always have to connect Clinton to every Bush failure), and on down the right wing list of its "everyones elses fault". I thinks its time for a new phrase...RFORS...Rightwing Fear Of Resume Scrutiny.

N2272V · 09-13-2005, 01:03 PM

The only one's who see failure everywhere are the Liberals. I don't see any "failure" in how Brown ran the agency or how FEMA responded to the catastrophe.

What I DID see was a lot of Divisive rhetoric, accusations, and rumor mongering from the Left and the Media which initially reported that the citizens of New Orleans dodged a bullet.

The other fascinating absurdity is that MORE people died in OTHER states and the devastation there was even more widespread. But hey, when you stand for nothing and believe that a divided nation is politically expedient, I guess yelling "the sky is falling" at every opportunity is good for YOUR party.

Frankly Steve, this is another case of Liberal Inescapable Reality Syndrome, or LIRS (pronounced Liars).

Carry on Looney tune!

STEVEJ · 09-13-2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2272V

The only one's who see failure everywhere are the Liberals. I don't see any "failure" in how Brown ran the agency or how FEMA responded to the catastrophe.

Too bad he won't be at the helm when that fault you live on lets loose and Zuma beach is relocated to Pueblo, Co. I bet that would have improved your vision!

N2272V · 09-13-2005, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEVEJ

Too bad he won't be at the helm when that fault you live on lets loose and Zuma beach is relocated to Pueblo, Co. I bet that would have improved your vision!

First off, I could only WISH that I could live anywhere NEAR Zuma Beach.

Second, should your prediction happen however, the Loonie liberals will lose some of their wealthiest supporters. Contrary to another MYTH perpetuated by the Loonie Lefties, the wealthiest individuals in this country lean to the LEFT, not the RIGHT.

Dismissed loonie tune!

STEVEJ · 09-13-2005, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N2272V

Second, should your prediction happen however, the Loonie liberals will lose some of their wealthiest supporters. Contrary to another MYTH perpetuated by the Loonie Lefties, the wealthiest individuals in this country lean to the LEFT, not the RIGHT.

Dismissed loonie tune!

You can add to that list of left leaners people with teeth and an IQ.

N2272V · 09-13-2005, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEVEJ

You can add to that list of left leaners people with teeth and an IQ.

Funny, yet prejudiced. Carry on!

09-09-2005, 06:25 PM	#1
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Bush's FEMA report card? http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cf...dcn=todaysnews Hey Jimmie, Here is your kleenex. There is negativity against two Bushes..... Do not worry! Hillary Clinton is comming to your rescuse! You lucky bastard! __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

09-10-2005, 02:45 PM	#2
N2272V Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Age: 54 Posts: 2,110	Cinton's report card Sound Familiar? http://www.emergency.com/femafurr.htm Here's an exerpt: THE FURY OVER FEMA, PRESIDENT-ELECT CLINTON'S OPPORTUNITY By Paul Anderson, EmergencyNet NEWS Correspondent Chicago, IL - The fury of Hurricane Andrew, Hurricane Iniki, Hurricane Hugo, the Los Angeles Riots, and the San Francisco earthquake can not be equaled by the feelings some devastated disaster victims have towards our nation's lead emergency management agency. Pointed criticism and tales of ineptitude, insensitively, and "foot-dragging" continue to plague the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and it's leadership. "One of the most basic problems, and most frequent criticisms of FEMA is that they aren't prepared for those critical first, few, days after a major disaster occurs", according to Clark Staten of the Chicago-based Emergency Response & Research Institute. "This was particularly true of Hurricane Andrew, where local emergency response agencies were unable to provide even the very rudimentary rescue/medical care services that were required", Staten continued. "Unfortunately, people seem to have developed an attitude that FEMA and the U.S. Military can come and `rescue' them within a moments' notice...when that doesn't happen they are disappointed, hurt, and angry", the veteran emergency manager added. I guess the only difference between todays furor over preparedness is the fact that today you have a Republican Administration in charge and a Democrat minority willing to make any absurd claim it can to discredit George Bush. So please, spare me the Rhetoric. Carry on!

09-10-2005, 03:17 PM	#4
N2272V Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Age: 54 Posts: 2,110	Duh Tell me oh witless Canadork, how did the Clinton administration acknowledge they made a mistake? Tell me oh witless one, how Bush is not holding anyone accountable for this disaster, assuming of course that one believes that the Goverment didn't do it's job, which itself is an absurdity? Only a mental midget like you can make such absurd claims about accountability when we are confronting a major disaster and the Government, once again, is doing everything they can and we are 12 days into the relief efforts. The absurdity of your positions is illustrated by the fact that it ignores the culpability of Cities who allow growth in flood plains, citizens who ignore the call to evacuate, the logistics of getting help to areas that look like a nuclear bomb went off in them, etc etc etc. Why do you try to ACT like your rhetoric is more than just that? Empty rhetoric. You don't care about accountability, you just want to mouth off with more of your divisive verbal diatribe for only ONE purpose: To somehow lend some slight credibility to the false philiosophy you hold about being a Liberal, that when examined, holds very little logic or credibilty. Dismissed looney tune....be gone witless one. Last edited by N2272V; 09-10-2005 at 03:19 PM.

09-10-2005, 10:38 PM	#8
N2272V Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Age: 54 Posts: 2,110	Duh Here's the REST of the story for those of you suffering from severe cases of LIRS: "Where it's not working right, we're going to make it right," the president said after walking through a devastated neighborhood of Mobile, Alabama. "Where it is working right, we're going to duplicate it elsewhere." Bush faulted efforts to restore order in New Orleans, where looting, violence and other crimes have been rampant. Asked what he meant by unacceptable results, Bush said, "Well, I'm talking about the fact that we don't have enough security in New Orleans yet." He said 1,200 National Guard troops arrived there on Friday and that 1,200 were deployed on Thursday. "They need to stabilize that situation," the president said. "They need to make sure that the food and medicine that is in place is given to the people that need the food and medicine." He said he was not faulting efforts in Mississippi, where Republican Gov. Haley Barbour praised federal help. Still, Barbour said, "We've suffered a grievous blow that we won't recover from for a long while."

09-10-2005, 10:41 PM	#9
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Wait until 2008!!!! This would be interesting whether the state of Louisian would be either red nor blue. Hate to burst your red-ego if LA should happen to turn blue. __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me!

09-13-2005, 01:03 PM	#12
N2272V Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Age: 54 Posts: 2,110	Duh The only one's who see failure everywhere are the Liberals. I don't see any "failure" in how Brown ran the agency or how FEMA responded to the catastrophe. What I DID see was a lot of Divisive rhetoric, accusations, and rumor mongering from the Left and the Media which initially reported that the citizens of New Orleans dodged a bullet. The other fascinating absurdity is that MORE people died in OTHER states and the devastation there was even more widespread. But hey, when you stand for nothing and believe that a divided nation is politically expedient, I guess yelling "the sky is falling" at every opportunity is good for YOUR party. Frankly Steve, this is another case of Liberal Inescapable Reality Syndrome, or LIRS (pronounced Liars). Carry on Looney tune!

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