N2272V

Get your hip waders on people because the BS is going to get deeper before the disaster in New Orleans and Mississippi are over.

The latest onslaught, led by a very LIBERAL media is how the Bush Administration has cut government programs like FEMA and put cities like New Orleans at risk by cutting their budgets and giving reduced taxes to his RICH oil buddies.

The absurdity from the Left marches on. I am going to predict that people grow very tired of the looney tirades from the Democrats and their minions and as a result, there will be a HUGE conservative movement in this country further sealing the Liberals march towards irrlevancy in the 2008 elections.

Carry on looney tunes!

STEVEJ

Over the last coupla days there has been some wailing and gnashing of teeth over 'liberal bloggers' here on PHXNews. Of course, the story came from NewsMax, so it's crap to begin with, but I wanted to do some research and see if there was any truth to their claims.

Turns out there was.

The 2006 Budget slashes funding for the US Army Corps of Engineers, NO Districts, by $71.2 million dollars. Addditionally, a study to determine ways to protect the area from a Category 5 hurricane was cancelled.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4200/ is_20050606/ai_n14657367

I know some of you will say "It's 2005..those cuts haven't happened yet". To you I say, I'm only getting started.

Beginning in 2001, the Bush administration has consistently cut federal disaster mitigation programs run by FEMA. I guess the policy of ABC includes disaster preparedness.

From one of your own Jimbo, another "gold star".

psalover

So are you saying that this is not ture??

Are you saying that FEMA didn't warn Bush in 2001 that there could be a potential problem with that levy?

Are you saying FEMA didn't ask for 31,000,000.00 That right million,and Bush only gave them 10,000,000.00?are you saying this is NOT ture.

Are you saying that what going on in New Orleans is REALLY not that BAD?(SEAN HANADY IS)

Or,are you just repeating the same old right wing crap that they hand feed you morons?You have to be really F.U.C.K.I.N.G. stupid,on top of blind to suggest that Bush did anything right....Your an IDIOT

STEVEJ

Bush hasn't got a clue

Sawyer: "But given the fact that everyone anticipated a hurricane five, a possible hurricane five hitting shore, are you satisfied with the pace at which this is arriving? And which it was planned to arrive?"
Bush: "Well, I fully understand people wanting things to have happened yesterday. I mean, I understand the anxiety of people on the ground. I can imagine -- I just can't imagine what it is like to be waving a sign saying 'come and get me now'. So there is frustration. But I want people to know there is a lot of help coming.
"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees. They did anticipate a serious storm. But these levees got breached. And as a result, much of New Orleans is flooded. And now we are having to deal with it and will."
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Wrong.
Just for starters, how about Sunday's New Orleans Times-Picayune , which described a computer model run by the LSU Hurricane Center. "It indicated the metropolitan area was poised to see a repeat of Betsy's flooding, or worse, with storm surge of as much as 16 feet moving up the Mississippi River-Gulf Outlet and topping levees in Chalmette and eastern New Orleans, and pushing water into the 9th Ward and parts of Mid-City."
Or Monday's New York Times , in which New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin is quoted as saying that "Hurricane Katrina could bring 15 inches of rain and a storm surge of 20 feet or higher that would 'most likely topple' the network of levees and canals that normally protect the bowl-shaped city from flooding.
And as Andrew C. Revkin and Christopher Drew write in today's New York Times: "The 17th Street levee that gave way and led to the flooding of New Orleans was part of an intricate, aging system of barriers and pumps that was so chronically underfinanced that senior regional officials of the Army Corps of Engineers complained about it publicly for years.

psalover

The key here being FOR YEARS!!!!

A Tupolev

It’s very sad the liberal wackos are taking advantage of a disaster of biblical proportions and the suffering of thousands of people to Bush bash. The focus of these liberal idiots is not helping all these poor people that have lost everything, but how to pick up political points with this disaster. What else is new, this is SOP for the liberals who excel in finding fault and passing blame, without offering any real solutions. Again this country is in a crisis that requires us all to work together as one nation, both Republican and Democrat, but these liberal bastards take advantage of every opportunity to divide our nation and make us weak.

The disaster on the gulf coast is of biblical proportions. This country has never experienced a disaster on this scale. No amount of preparation would have been enough to quickly respond to this problem. Organizing a response to a disaster this big can’t happen overnight. The liberals are all whining about how quickly we went to war in Iraq to compare to how quickly we responded to this disaster. This is just more liberal BS, everyone knows we prepared months for the war in Iraq. Also the war in Iraq was a cakewalk compared to the scale of this disaster.

While I don’t care much for the blame game you liberals like to play, think about this. A large scale project to rebuild the levee and pump system in New Orleans by the Army Corp of Engineers to be ready for this strength of hurricane would take 8-12 years of planning and construction. If this process had started 8-12 years ago, maybe this disaster would not have happen. Hmmmm….let’s get the liberal pea brains thinking here. Who was the President who could have started the process 8-12 years ago and saved all these people? I’ll give you a clue, he’s the same President that had Bin Laden in the palm of his hand, but let him go, because he was too distracted by his own sexual needs.

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cpal_747

Poppy Bush!

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N2272V

No Steve, you're distorting what was believed could have happened. They were concerned that the water would rush OVER the levee's. Not that there would be a breach.

No amount of money would have foreseen this. You know. You're Liberal Loonies on the Left know it. And most people watching this retarded attempt to point the finger at Bush is only illustrating the absurd and misguided hatred for Bush and will only turn MORE poeple off on the Democratic party.

N2272V

psalover

[quote=A Tupolev]It’s very sad the liberal wackos are taking advantage of a disaster of biblical proportions and the suffering of thousands of people to Bush bash. The focus of these liberal idiots is not helping all these poor people that have lost everything, but how to pick up political points with this disaster. QUOTE]

Your right! were not doing anything,but bashing Bush.

While Bush did nothing but a quick flybye for 3 days these people suffered.The company I work for, USF Holland,Has been taking bottled water from Michigan to the disaster site.What have you done.I volenteered to drive a full load down there if they need me too.I have friends South of Jackson,MISS who still have no power,and are only allowed to purchase 20 gallons of fuel.What has Bush done? like 9/11,NOTHING.
Where in Condi?spending thousands in New York on shoes and catching a play.(what a b.i.t.c.h.)Why was the more immediate help to the Sunami relief,then to our fellow Americans.This IS NOT a 3rd world country,Down there.
I bash Bush,because AGAIN he shows how he's NOT a true LEADER.

cpal_747

It seems to me that Mayor Nagin of the city of New Orleans (you know, the stuff that he actually had any authority to control) probably had a notable lack of the resources necessary to effectively deal with a situation of this magnitude. A handful of cops, some firefighters, and Roy from the motorpool cannot make a dent in the devastation wreaked by a cat 5 hurricane on a city that's below sea level, even if Roy does still have the Caterpillar key.

So he did what good leaders do in a time of crisis: he made the tough call, stuck by his men, and hoped for the best.

You know good and goddamn well he couldn't evacuate everyone in the city. Getting as many of them as he could into one safe place was the smartest play he could have made. It gave them some shelter to ride out the storm, and simplified the logistics of getting them food, medical care, and transportation when the storm blew over. It's smart and simple: get 'em in, get 'em safe, wait for the cavalry.

His mistake was assuming that the rest of the people on his team would back his play. His mistake was assuming that if the people of his city could ride out the storm, the cavalry wouldn't take 4 days to get there. If the response outside New Orleans had been just a smidge less of a stringy, goatf*cked abortion, the situation in the convention center (not to mention the rest of the city) would not have been the nightmare that it became. I'm not saying it would be all roses and jazz music, but I think there's a good possibility that those living outside of New Orleans would not be having serious discussions about whether or not the people of the Big Easy had been forced into cannibalism.

Thousands of people have been living in their own sh*t and putting their children to rest beside ****ing corpses for days, and they knew exactly where they were the entire time. Hell, we've got pictures. You tell me: would you really expect that in the 2005 the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA would leave that many of its citizens to rot like that?

Is that really the best they can do?

Nagin may have made some mistakes, but consolidating people in the convention center isn't one of them, and he's not the one who dropped this baby on its head. At that point it was a federal disaster, and the feds (republicans) were in charge. Even GW admits the effort so far has been sh*t, how come you can't admit that Jimbo.

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N2272V

Coming from a terrorist loving, American hating looney liberal Canadork, I would NOT expect you to understand the logistics of what is occuring. I also wouldn't expect a mental midget like you to understand any of the points I am making about the dvisive LIberal political rhetoric in a time of desperate need.

So do us a favor, Terrorist lover, let us take care of our own and keep your American hating nose out of OUR business. We will do just fine without people like YOU and your divisive lies and rhetoric. You're America bashing really grows tireing.

Dismissed Terorrist lover.

psalover

You are right,but when the call went out on SUNDAY the Feds did nothing,BUSH did nothing.You know that if Bush would have left the funding for the levee alone this wouldn't be going on RIGHT NOW!Bush,and FEMA knew that this Levee was a problem.Hell,it survived the Hurricane,but not the Water from the Lake,What it was designed for,BECAUSE IT WAS IN NEED OF REPAIR,$31MILLION DOLLORS IN REPAIR,and Bush only allowed $10MILLION.Can you see why we are a little pissed?

I guess you thing the Mayor is an A-hole now too.

psalover

Thats right,because he is a FREE THINKER,and you still think like a CAVEMAN

cpal_747

Once again you can't see where the republican federal government dropped the ball. Time to take off the Bush colored glasses and actually look at your fellow Americans, starving and dieing in the streets.

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A Tupolev

Ok, thanks for admiting Mr. Hillary Clinton was a black hole in the political history of this country. Let's just forget he was in office for those 8 years with nothing for the history books other then a hummer from an intern.

Liberal Political talking points:

1. Hummers from interns in the oval office = good
2. Fighting terrorists = bad
3. France = good
4. USA = bad
5. Hitler, Stalin & Castro = good
6. Bush = bad
7. Communism = good
8. Democracy = bad

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richie154

1. Hummers from interns in the oval office = COULDN'T CARE LESS/NOT MY BUSINESS
2. Fighting terrorists = GOOD, BUT DOES IT REQUIRE AN INVASION?
3. France = WHO CARES?
4. USA = GREAT BUT NOT PERFECT.
5. Hitler, Stalin & Castro = BAD, BAD AND ALMOST DEAD.
6. Bush = REALLY BAD.
7. Communism = BAD.
8. Democracy = GOOD.


Try again!

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A Tupolev

[quote=psalover]
The first line of responsibility for a disaster is the local level. The city of New Orleans had no plan in place. 100 city buses are currently parked in 8 feet of water. These buses could been moved into place on Sunday to move people. Who is responsible for this f up, the liberal black mayor of NO. Who is responsible for stocking emergency supplies for a city where a disater like this can occur, the city and the mayor.

The second line of responsibility for a disaster is the county and state. Louisana was the last of the three states impacted to declare martial law and bring in the National Gaurd, this was on Wednesday. The governer controls the national gaurd, not Bush.

After failures in local, county and state, the federal government kick into action by Thursday. Friday Federal troops arrived, restored order to the city and moved large numbers of people out. Today the situation is completly under control. If the city, county and state had their s**t together the first 3 days, things would be much better for those people.

How Bush can be blamed for the failures of city, county and state politicians is beyond me. But you liberal wackos can twist anything to blame Bush.

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tdh8192

Time to turn your spell and grammar checker back on!

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cpal_747

I don't think he was any worse than Mr. Nancy Reagan. Although just because Ronnie was nuts for most of his 2nd term, doesn't make him a bad person, maybe a bad leader of a country.

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N2272V

Based on his outrageous stupid comments, YOU bet.

I think you are one too! Dismissed.