Liberal Abdsurdity #1

N2272V · 08-29-2005, 12:30 PM

Liberal absurdity #1: "I support the troops in Iraq, but it is the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the wrong place."

I guess you have to be an intellectual moron to put that one together. If the troops are in Iraq, fighting and dieing to bring a nation freedom, how is insulting the very thing they are doing supporting them?

DUH.

richie154 · 08-29-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Liberal absurdity #1: "I support the troops in Iraq, but it is the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the wrong place."

I guess you have to be an intellectual moron to put that one together. If the troops are in Iraq, fighting and dieing to bring a nation freedom, how is insulting the very thing they are doing supporting them?

DUH.

BAAAAH! BAAAH!

PH-LKK · 08-29-2005, 03:28 PM

Well, I support my troops. Consequently, I support their "use" in any country, at any time, for any reason. Right? Or maybe you mean to say that its only when our troops are in a fighting war that it "insults" their dignity to argue against their continued "use" in the precise manner, time and location chosen by our "Commander in Chief"? That's even better. I support the "use" of our troops, particularly in those instances where the lives of our troops have already been risked and sacrificed, in any country, at any time, for any reason, so long as that reason is the reason chosen by our President (whatever that reason happens to be). And I do this *because* I support our troops, and in spite of any personal reservations I may have about the motives, knowledge or competence of our President.

Let's grant your point regarding Iraq for the time being. Is there any situation where you would think the President (let's call him a Democrat for the moment) has acted carelessly and where you might find yourself arguing that our forces should be redeployed elsewhere? Is *any* argument in favor of redeploying forces, where that argument contradicts the decisions of the President, an act that "insults" our armed forces? Is the insult reserved for those instances in which American blood has already been spilt? Does the spilling of American blood, no matter how foolish, always justify the spilling of more American blood?

Don't assume you know where I'd come out on Iraq, because you don't. Just take a moment to consider the sheer absurdity of your stated position. It does our country, our service men and women, and our President, no service to suggest that the reason you support him is that his decisions have already cost American lives. If there is an "insult" here, I respectfully suggest you come closest to delivering it.

N2272V · 08-29-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PH-LKK

Just take a moment to consider the sheer absurdity of your stated position. It does our country, our service men and women, and our President, no service to suggest that the reason you support him is that his decisions have already cost American lives. If there is an "insult" here, I respectfully suggest you come closest to delivering it.

PH-LKK, I see it as sheer absurdity to hand the terrorists a victory. I am for the Iraqi people and the Presidents efforts to rid the world of despots. What are you for? The Terrorists?

Frankly your entire statement is difficult to follow. I am assuming that English is not your first language.

Here's a question for you. Do you think MORE lives will be lost if we all supported the President? Or do you think more lives will be lost with all the whining in the media and by NOT supporting the President?

Carry on!

ARIUS · 08-29-2005, 05:16 PM

We were knee deep in the Big Muddy,
And the damn fool kept yelling to push on.

The Sergeant said, "Sir, are you sure,
This is the way back to the base?"
"Sergeant, I once crossed this river
Not a mile above this place.
It'll be a little soggy but we'll keep slogging.
We'll soon be on dry ground."
We were waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the damn fool kept yelling to push on.

"Captain, sir, with all this gear
No man'll be able to swim."
"Sergeant, don't be a Nervous Nellie,"
The Captain said to him.
"All we need is a little determination;
Follow me, I'll lead on."
We were neck deep in the Big Muddy
And the damn fool kept yelling to push on.

cpal_747 · 08-29-2005, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Here's a question for you. Do you think MORE lives will be lost if we all supported the President? Or do you think more lives will be lost with all the whining in the media and by NOT supporting the President?

Carry on!

How are lives lost by disagreeing with cokehead GW? Give me just one concrete example!

Dr Evil · 08-29-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

How are lives lost by disagreeing with cokehead GW? Give me just one concrete example!

We could, but you would refuse to believe it. So why waste time typing?

Anyway, is Coca Cola connected to our prez?

cpal_747 · 08-29-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Evil

We could, but you would refuse to believe it. So why waste time typing?

Anyway, is Coca Cola connected to our prez?

So what is this unbelievable reason that you claim to have?

Not that type of coke, although it gives you a way better buzz than coca cola.

N2272V · 08-30-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

How are lives lost by disagreeing with cokehead GW? Give me just one concrete example!

You ALWAYS answer a question with another question don't you Canadork? Becasue you're such a moron, I would probably have to draw you a picture with crayons.

Only a rude little moron like you could make such an offensive comment about our President. You know what C-Pal, there's no reason to deal with your nonsense anymore. You obviously don't give a rats behind about facts or truth, you just want to go on a nonsensical tirade and rant about George Bush.

Have at it dipchit.

Dismissed!

STEVEJ · 08-30-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

You ALWAYS answer a question with another question don't you Canadork? Becasue you're such a moron, I would probably have to draw you a picture with crayons.

Only a rude little moron like you could make such an offensive comment about our President. You know what C-Pal, there's no reason to deal with your nonsense anymore. You obviously don't give a rats behind about facts or truth, you just want to go on a nonsensical tirade and rant about George Bush.

Have at it dipchit.

Dismissed!

According to a new book, three independent sources close to the Bush family report that Governor Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession, and taken to Harris County Jail, but avoided jail or formal charges through an informal diversion plan involving community service with Project P.U.L.L., an inner city Houston program for troubled youths at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in Houston's dirt-poor Third Ward. (In another new book, reporter Bill Minutaglio, writes that the year of community service was arranged by the Governor's father, ex-president Bush, after he caught Bush Jr. driving drunk.)
That year certainly is out of character with the rest of Bush Jr.'s life. Before and after 1972, he was a rich, hard drinking playboy. Suddenly, and only that one time in his life, he worked for a liberal charity in an inner city ghetto. As soon as the year was over, he resumed his previous pattern and has done no charity work since.

N2272V · 08-30-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by STEVEJ

According to a new book, three independent sources close to the Bush family report that Governor Bush was arrested in 1972 for cocaine possession, and taken to Harris County Jail, but avoided jail or formal charges through an informal diversion plan involving community service with Project P.U.L.L., an inner city Houston program for troubled youths at the Martin Luther King Jr. Community Center in Houston's dirt-poor Third Ward. (In another new book, reporter Bill Minutaglio, writes that the year of community service was arranged by the Governor's father, ex-president Bush, after he caught Bush Jr. driving drunk.)
That year certainly is out of character with the rest of Bush Jr.'s life. Before and after 1972, he was a rich, hard drinking playboy. Suddenly, and only that one time in his life, he worked for a liberal charity in an inner city ghetto. As soon as the year was over, he resumed his previous pattern and has done no charity work since.

Yes isn't it like a delusional wierdo like you to use a book, which was reportedly refuted in it's claims and pulled from the shelves, written by a convicted fellon who committed suicide as a reputable source.

The fact is, after all the media digging into GW's past, NO record of any conviction was ever found. Of course this doesn't deter the looney tunes, they then conveniently make the claim that Bush's father had the records destroyed.

Carry on Sgt Looney tune. I await your next CREDIBLE source.

cpal_747 · 08-30-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

You ALWAYS answer a question with another question don't you Canadork? Becasue you're such a moron, I would probably have to draw you a picture with crayons.

Only a rude little moron like you could make such an offensive comment about our President. You know what C-Pal, there's no reason to deal with your nonsense anymore. You obviously don't give a rats behind about facts or truth, you just want to go on a nonsensical tirade and rant about George Bush.

Have at it dipchit.

Dismissed!

Way to keep avoiding the actual question. Give me concrete proof that opposing Bush or the war in Vietraq actually is costing lives over there? Since you can't do that just keep spouting off the neocon party line and see if that makes you feel better.

cpal_747 · 08-30-2005, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

Yes isn't it like a delusional wierdo like you to use a book, which was reportedly refuted in it's claims and pulled from the shelves, written by a convicted fellon who committed suicide as a reputable source.

The fact is, after all the media digging into GW's past, NO record of any conviction was ever found. Of course this doesn't deter the looney tunes, they then conveniently make the claim that Bush's father had the records destroyed.

Carry on Sgt Looney tune. I await your next CREDIBLE source.

Did you read Steve's post. Of course there is no record of a conviction because it never ended up in the courts. Reading comprehension not high on your list of things to learn!

N2272V · 08-30-2005, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

Way to keep avoiding the actual question. Give me concrete proof that opposing Bush or the war in Vietraq actually is costing lives over there? Since you can't do that just keep spouting off the neocon party line and see if that makes you feel better.

As was stated earlier, it is highly unlikely that a mental midget like you could comprehend this, but here goes.

The terrorists are counting on the American media and the American people, as well as morons like you around the world, to pressure the USA into a retreat. They know that they cannot defeat us on the ground, therefore they count on PUBLIC opinion.

As such, they also know that the more men, women and children they can kill, along with soldiers, that soft headed morons like yourself wont have the stomach to continue the fight and win.

So the bottom line is, without WORLD support in our favor, and with media morons and mental midgets like yourself clamouring for a withdrawal, they continue their attacks and step them up because they see they are having the DESIRED effect.

I hope this was CLEAR enough for you. I don't expect it to sink into your tiny little brain cells, but there is your answer.

Dismissed looney tune!

cpal_747 · 08-30-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

As was stated earlier, it is highly unlikely that a mental midget like you could comprehend this, but here goes.

The terrorists are counting on the American media and the American people, as well as morons like you around the world, to pressure the USA into a retreat. They know that they cannot defeat us on the ground, therefore they count on PUBLIC opinion.

As such, they also know that the more men, women and children they can kill, along with soldiers, that soft headed morons like yourself wont have the stomach to continue the fight and win.

So the bottom line is, without WORLD support in our favor, and with media morons and mental midgets like yourself clamouring for a withdrawal, they continue their attacks and step them up because they see they are having the DESIRED effect.

I hope this was CLEAR enough for you. I don't expect it to sink into your tiny little brain cells, but there is your answer.

Dismissed looney tune!

What you posted was your opinion. I wanted proof! If you don't know the difference between the to, maybe you should go back to school. How exactly do you know what the terrorists are counting on? Do you have some inside information to the terrorists?

richie154 · 08-30-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

What you posted was your opinion. I wanted proof! If you don't know the difference between the to, maybe you should go back to school. How exactly do you know what the terrorists are counting on? Do you have some inside information to the terrorists?

I think he IS a terrorist. That would answer a lot of questions!

DeltaFlot · 08-30-2005, 06:24 PM

The more and more I see from the "compassionate" liberal left, is that they tend to be less and less compassionate. The leftist who say that they support our troops but not the war are the same people protesting the troops outside of Walter Reed Army Hospital (Code Pink). These are the same compassionate people who say the people of New Orleans brought the disaster of Katrina upon themselves. these are the same compassionate people who when there is a Democrat president have no problem supporting his military efforts just on his good(?) word, but can't stomach military use based on cold hard facts. the same compassionate people who, despite evidence to the contrary ,heap global warming on George Bush, when a Democrats were president for the pollution filled events of WW1(Wilson), WW2(Rooselvelt), Korea(Truman{Can we same A-bomb?}), Vietnam(Kennedy), Somalia(Clinton). The same Compasssionate people who would rather have the anti-woman, anti-jew Taliban in power in Afghanistan, and the Butcher of Baghdad, Hussein who mudered more thousands of more times of his own people than iraqi troops dying during both gulf wars. the same comapassionate people who oppose the Fair Tax plan, because it'll make the poor suffer and allow the rich to get richer ,evne though it removes the tax burden from the poor, makes the rich pay more, and taxes illegal immigrants and foreign tourist. The same compassionate people who applaud Supreme Court decisions based on foreign law and not our own Constitution. Speaking of illegal immigrants, the same compassionate people would rather protect law breaking, murdering illegal immigrants from mexico, central america and middle eastern countries (hint hint), than the people who try to protect the integrity and soverginty of this nation. The same compassionate people who would have us do what europe tells us to do, forgetting it was a bunch of liberals who fought and died for us to be free of european rule. that all I got for now. more soapbox tales of the grim later.

N2272V · 08-30-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

What you posted was your opinion. I wanted proof! If you don't know the difference between the to, maybe you should go back to school. How exactly do you know what the terrorists are counting on? Do you have some inside information to the terrorists?

You prove my case. "As was stated earlier, it is highly unlikely that a mental midget like you could comprehend this"

Dismissed looney tune!

N2272V · 08-30-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaFlot

The more and more I see from the "compassionate" liberal left, is that they tend to be less and less compassionate. The leftist who say that they support our troops but not the war are the same people protesting the troops outside of Walter Reed Army Hospital (Code Pink). These are the same compassionate people who say the people of New Orleans brought the disaster of Katrina upon themselves. these are the same compassionate people who when there is a Democrat president have no problem supporting his military efforts just on his good(?) word, but can't stomach military use based on cold hard facts. the same compassionate people who, despite evidence to the contrary ,heap global warming on George Bush, when a Democrats were president for the pollution filled events of WW1(Wilson), WW2(Rooselvelt), Korea(Truman{Can we same A-bomb?}), Vietnam(Kennedy), Somalia(Clinton). The same Compasssionate people who would rather have the anti-woman, anti-jew Taliban in power in Afghanistan, and the Butcher of Baghdad, Hussein who mudered more thousands of more times of his own people than iraqi troops dying during both gulf wars. the same comapassionate people who oppose the Fair Tax plan, because it'll make the poor suffer and allow the rich to get richer ,evne though it removes the tax burden from the poor, makes the rich pay more, and taxes illegal immigrants and foreign tourist. The same compassionate people who applaud Supreme Court decisions based on foreign law and not our own Constitution. Speaking of illegal immigrants, the same compassionate people would rather protect law breaking, murdering illegal immigrants from mexico, central america and middle eastern countries (hint hint), than the people who try to protect the integrity and soverginty of this nation. The same compassionate people who would have us do what europe tells us to do, forgetting it was a bunch of liberals who fought and died for us to be free of european rule. that all I got for now. more soapbox tales of the grim later.

Amen Delta......Can't say it any better than this.

Carry on!

N2272V · 08-30-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by richie154

I think he IS a terrorist. That would answer a lot of questions!

More absurdity from the ignorant.

Dismissed wannabe!

cpal_747 · 08-30-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

You prove my case. "As was stated earlier, it is highly unlikely that a mental midget like you could comprehend this"

Dismissed looney tune!

You seem to have no idea that facts are different from your opinion! You would make a lousy lawyer as you would take heresay, conjecture and speculation as fact when arguing before the bench! Can you point out any facts in your rambling or does stuff like that get in the way of your arugment?

08-29-2005, 03:28 PM	#3
PH-LKK Centaurus Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 41 Posts: 572	Well, I support my troops. Consequently, I support their "use" in any country, at any time, for any reason. Right? Or maybe you mean to say that its only when our troops are in a fighting war that it "insults" their dignity to argue against their continued "use" in the precise manner, time and location chosen by our "Commander in Chief"? That's even better. I support the "use" of our troops, particularly in those instances where the lives of our troops have already been risked and sacrificed, in any country, at any time, for any reason, so long as that reason is the reason chosen by our President (whatever that reason happens to be). And I do this because I support our troops, and in spite of any personal reservations I may have about the motives, knowledge or competence of our President. Let's grant your point regarding Iraq for the time being. Is there any situation where you would think the President (let's call him a Democrat for the moment) has acted carelessly and where you might find yourself arguing that our forces should be redeployed elsewhere? Is any argument in favor of redeploying forces, where that argument contradicts the decisions of the President, an act that "insults" our armed forces? Is the insult reserved for those instances in which American blood has already been spilt? Does the spilling of American blood, no matter how foolish, always justify the spilling of more American blood? Don't assume you know where I'd come out on Iraq, because you don't. Just take a moment to consider the sheer absurdity of your stated position. It does our country, our service men and women, and our President, no service to suggest that the reason you support him is that his decisions have already cost American lives. If there is an "insult" here, I respectfully suggest you come closest to delivering it. __________________ "I know you believe you understand what it is you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what I said is not what I meant." - RMN My Collection · My Wish List · My "Dream" List Models for Sale or Trade

08-29-2005, 05:16 PM	#5
ARIUS Master Collector Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Whitehorse, YT Posts: 603	We were knee deep in the Big Muddy, And the damn fool kept yelling to push on. The Sergeant said, "Sir, are you sure, This is the way back to the base?" "Sergeant, I once crossed this river Not a mile above this place. It'll be a little soggy but we'll keep slogging. We'll soon be on dry ground." We were waist deep in the Big Muddy And the damn fool kept yelling to push on. "Captain, sir, with all this gear No man'll be able to swim." "Sergeant, don't be a Nervous Nellie," The Captain said to him. "All we need is a little determination; Follow me, I'll lead on." We were neck deep in the Big Muddy And the damn fool kept yelling to push on. __________________ Fly Air North,Yukon's Airline

08-30-2005, 06:24 PM	#17
DeltaFlot The Patriot Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Laurel, MD Age: 36 Posts: 3,228	The more and more I see from the "compassionate" liberal left, is that they tend to be less and less compassionate. The leftist who say that they support our troops but not the war are the same people protesting the troops outside of Walter Reed Army Hospital (Code Pink). These are the same compassionate people who say the people of New Orleans brought the disaster of Katrina upon themselves. these are the same compassionate people who when there is a Democrat president have no problem supporting his military efforts just on his good(?) word, but can't stomach military use based on cold hard facts. the same compassionate people who, despite evidence to the contrary ,heap global warming on George Bush, when a Democrats were president for the pollution filled events of WW1(Wilson), WW2(Rooselvelt), Korea(Truman{Can we same A-bomb?}), Vietnam(Kennedy), Somalia(Clinton). The same Compasssionate people who would rather have the anti-woman, anti-jew Taliban in power in Afghanistan, and the Butcher of Baghdad, Hussein who mudered more thousands of more times of his own people than iraqi troops dying during both gulf wars. the same comapassionate people who oppose the Fair Tax plan, because it'll make the poor suffer and allow the rich to get richer ,evne though it removes the tax burden from the poor, makes the rich pay more, and taxes illegal immigrants and foreign tourist. The same compassionate people who applaud Supreme Court decisions based on foreign law and not our own Constitution. Speaking of illegal immigrants, the same compassionate people would rather protect law breaking, murdering illegal immigrants from mexico, central america and middle eastern countries (hint hint), than the people who try to protect the integrity and soverginty of this nation. The same compassionate people who would have us do what europe tells us to do, forgetting it was a bunch of liberals who fought and died for us to be free of european rule. that all I got for now. more soapbox tales of the grim later. __________________ Febuary 15, 1898 December 7, 1941 June 8, 1967 September 11, 2001 Never Forget, Never Forgive If you kick the Tiger in the arse, you better be able to deal with the Tiger's teeth.

08-29-2005, 12:30 PM	#1
N2272V Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ventura Age: 54 Posts: 2,110	Liberal Abdsurdity #1 Liberal absurdity #1: "I support the troops in Iraq, but it is the wrong war, at the wrong time, in the wrong place." I guess you have to be an intellectual moron to put that one together. If the troops are in Iraq, fighting and dieing to bring a nation freedom, how is insulting the very thing they are doing supporting them? DUH.