Controllers face dismissal

STEVEJ · 08-03-2005, 07:45 PM

On this date Aug 3, the 24 th anniversary of the famed PATCO strike, one has to wonder just how things are going out there in FAA world.
A few weeks ago I read a story that the NY TRACON having a banner year, racking up a record number of "near misses" in just the 1st half of this year alone, something like triple the number during the same period last year. The following week I read an article that the controllers were overpaid, considering their performance so far this year, I would tend to agree. Now I open up the paper this morning and read that 9 controllers at the NY TRACON recieved letters informing them that they are being fired for falscification of government documents. You see controllers are eligible for 45 days paid leave under workmans compenation. The NY TRACON in 3 1/2 months,has racked up 3,000 hrs of paid leave compared to 500 hours combined at five similar facilities. The contollers in question here made a compensation claim after a stressful event, but when questioned on their medical forms if they "have ever been diagnosed with mental disease or disability and had seen other healthcare professionals," they checked no.
A few years back I turned down the FAA's offer under the PATO re-hire program, for the NY TRACON....I wondered then if that was a good decision, now I think I know for sure.

N. Eberhard · 08-03-2005, 08:05 PM

Yup, NY Tracon had a major issue with management letting the indians run the place. I read the whole internal report and it was amazing what the controllers got away with. They arranged to stack the schedule during slow times which required OT to be used all the time for the busy times. Then they also arrange to work comp time but then call in sick so that somebody else had to be called in for OT then THEY would call in sick the next day (or soon after) to get their day off back. Every one of us that read the report just shook our heads in amazement at all the BS that went on there.

Believe me, the NATCA group at NY Tracon seriously abused everything and the internal report totally exposed it. All new management has been brought in as well.

STEVEJ · 08-03-2005, 09:37 PM

I didn't know that, so I'm guessing this most recent action is the new management taking control? The union intiated the story on the near misses claiming it was due to short staffing, from outsiders I spoke to, that was a mistake, I guess it snowballed from there. The next shot is due from the union, the delays at EWR and LGA have been horrendous all summer, I guess that will be the next focal point.

08-03-2005, 07:45 PM	#1
STEVEJ Insane Collector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stony Brook, N.Y. Age: 100 Posts: 1,648	Controllers face dismissal On this date Aug 3, the 24 th anniversary of the famed PATCO strike, one has to wonder just how things are going out there in FAA world. A few weeks ago I read a story that the NY TRACON having a banner year, racking up a record number of "near misses" in just the 1st half of this year alone, something like triple the number during the same period last year. The following week I read an article that the controllers were overpaid, considering their performance so far this year, I would tend to agree. Now I open up the paper this morning and read that 9 controllers at the NY TRACON recieved letters informing them that they are being fired for falscification of government documents. You see controllers are eligible for 45 days paid leave under workmans compenation. The NY TRACON in 3 1/2 months,has racked up 3,000 hrs of paid leave compared to 500 hours combined at five similar facilities. The contollers in question here made a compensation claim after a stressful event, but when questioned on their medical forms if they "have ever been diagnosed with mental disease or disability and had seen other healthcare professionals," they checked no. A few years back I turned down the FAA's offer under the PATO re-hire program, for the NY TRACON....I wondered then if that was a good decision, now I think I know for sure.

08-03-2005, 08:05 PM	#2
N. Eberhard Dr. Diecast I presume? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 44 Posts: 3,517	Yup, NY Tracon had a major issue with management letting the indians run the place. I read the whole internal report and it was amazing what the controllers got away with. They arranged to stack the schedule during slow times which required OT to be used all the time for the busy times. Then they also arrange to work comp time but then call in sick so that somebody else had to be called in for OT then THEY would call in sick the next day (or soon after) to get their day off back. Every one of us that read the report just shook our heads in amazement at all the BS that went on there. Believe me, the NATCA group at NY Tracon seriously abused everything and the internal report totally exposed it. All new management has been brought in as well. Last edited by N. Eberhard; 08-03-2005 at 08:06 PM.

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08-03-2005, 09:37 PM	#3
STEVEJ Insane Collector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Stony Brook, N.Y. Age: 100 Posts: 1,648	I didn't know that, so I'm guessing this most recent action is the new management taking control? The union intiated the story on the near misses claiming it was due to short staffing, from outsiders I spoke to, that was a mistake, I guess it snowballed from there. The next shot is due from the union, the delays at EWR and LGA have been horrendous all summer, I guess that will be the next focal point.