Hey, Bush-Lovers! Your opinions!

JOHN JOHNSON · 03-31-2005, 02:06 PM

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.js.../31/95265.html

What a stupid Bush is doing? He was the one who ignored UN, Germany/France that had asked for more time by pushing his red button for war? Now he is blaming to the "cooker"....... if yall see Steve Segal's movie?

What was his rush? How thirsty was he? (Power-ego)

I remain oppose his war rheotics as it was clueless. I stand correct that I believe that he is doing all base on his personal reasons to protect the name of Bush family from Saddam's nightmares.

So where is WMD that he claimed? Where have our 100-160 Billion dollars went? (That could be helpful to Social Security for the needly people.) What the most important why our 1,500+ (Non-Bush family) people died for? Why are we seeing dramastically reduction of volunteer military right now? There is talks the possibilities of reinsert draft for the youngs.

I truly hope that Democrats have everything needed to attempt to impreach Bush/Cheney sometime soon.

LOT 737-300 · 03-31-2005, 08:28 PM

Seems like you really dislike Bush, I think this was more of an excuse to get the man who tried to kill his "daddy", but hey at least the Iraqis have more of a free democracy (I hope), I always look back to history, remember when the US went into Germany during WWII, there was a group called the Warewolves, they went around killing anyone who supported the Allies, this went on for 10 years before it mostly stopped, I think the same might happen for Iraq, the only diffrence is worldwide support, and the the geography, I do agree though, it was wrong to go into Iraq just to get Sudamm (which I had a feeling he was going to do). Belive me I'm not for or against Bush, but I do wish he did think about other things.

Hapag-Lloyd · 04-01-2005, 07:50 AM

@ LOT: the "werewolves" were around in 1944 and 1945, it stopped immediately after their parents gave them a good whacking. That is because they were small groups of psyched-up Hitler Youth boys who still believed the war could be won (due to "miracle weapons" that never really existed). Germany held its first elections in 1949. There was no danger (like in Iraq) involved in voting. There were absolutely no "werewolves" around after 1945. Especially as most Germans were fighting starvation at the time.

@ JJ: Where the money went? Does "Halliburton" ring a bell? No? "Poppy´s" company, you know, and the Bin Laden family invested there, too? Ah, I knew you were familiar with them.

N. Eberhard · 04-02-2005, 03:33 AM

Bush Rules...oh were you talking about a person?

N2272V · 04-02-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.js.../31/95265.html

What a stupid Bush is doing? He was the one who ignored UN, Germany/France that had asked for more time by pushing his red button for war? Now he is blaming to the "cooker"....... if yall see Steve Segal's movie?

What was his rush? How thirsty was he? (Power-ego)

I remain oppose his war rheotics as it was clueless. I stand correct that I believe that he is doing all base on his personal reasons to protect the name of Bush family from Saddam's nightmares.

So where is WMD that he claimed? Where have our 100-160 Billion dollars went? (That could be helpful to Social Security for the needly people.) What the most important why our 1,500+ (Non-Bush family) people died for? Why are we seeing dramastically reduction of volunteer military right now? There is talks the possibilities of reinsert draft for the youngs.

I truly hope that Democrats have everything needed to attempt to impreach Bush/Cheney sometime soon.

If there were even the remotest truth to any of the statements that you and the Dumbocrats make as it relates to the war and Bush's policies, I have no doubt the mainstream media would have been all over it like flies on shit. BUT, considering the fact that once again all this is, is more empty rhetoric, there is really nothing more to be said.

I will NEVER forget the events after 9-11 or how I felt that day. I will NEVER let the Liberal lunatics or the Dumbocrats hide the fact that on that day, ARABS hijacked FOUR US aircraft and attempted to KILL as many Americans as they could. The audacity of that attack, and the fact that they flew an aircraft into the Pentagon, was an ACT of WAR. I will never forget the glee of watching Palestinians and leaders like Saddam as they praised the bravery of these murderers and their dastardly deed.

I will never forget how I felt and my thoughts that I wanted our President to DO something and go in there and take out any and all regimes who supported, hid, assisted, aided or paid for these thugs and anyone else who might be party to such murder.

I am very thankful that we have a man in office who doesn't care what the Liberal Lunatics or Dumbocrats have to say and works off of his principles. He did EXACTLY what MOST of us wanted him to do and we will eventually be a much safer world without the likes of Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Murder Inc. and the regimes that support and pay for such lunacy.

Now maybe YOU and people like YOU want to pretend that those events had no meaning and that a MAJORITY of the worlds intelligence community THOUGHT that Saddam WAS hiding WMD"s and that a MAJORITY in the House and Senate voted FOR the war in Iraq and that 32 other nations joined us. The TRUTH of these events are out there for those who WANT to see it.

As for your stand against this President and others like you, your whining and carping about Oil and Bush's motives are OLD, TIRED, NON-factual statements and the election is OVER. So I would suggest in the interest of our great nation that you move on and we will debate this in the NEXT election. I won't be surprised if the Republicans continue to increase their majorities in the House and Senate and that ANOTHER Republican gets elected to the Presidency.

The Liberal Lunatics still don't get it and the Dumbocrats still can't define what it is they stand for.

Carry on!

cpal_747 · 04-02-2005, 02:59 PM

I only hope that Condi gets to be the republican that runs for President in 2008.

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-02-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by N2272V

If there were even the remotest truth to any of the statements that you and the Dumbocrats make as it relates to the war and Bush's policies, I have no doubt the mainstream media would have been all over it like flies on ****. BUT, considering the fact that once again all this is, is more empty rhetoric, there is really nothing more to be said.

I will NEVER forget the events after 9-11 or how I felt that day. I will NEVER let the Liberal lunatics or the Dumbocrats hide the fact that on that day, ARABS hijacked FOUR US aircraft and attempted to KILL as many Americans as they could. The audacity of that attack, and the fact that they flew an aircraft into the Pentagon, was an ACT of WAR. I will never forget the glee of watching Palestinians and leaders like Saddam as they praised the bravery of these murderers and their dastardly deed.

I will never forget how I felt and my thoughts that I wanted our President to DO something and go in there and take out any and all regimes who supported, hid, assisted, aided or paid for these thugs and anyone else who might be party to such murder.

I am very thankful that we have a man in office who doesn't care what the Liberal Lunatics or Dumbocrats have to say and works off of his principles. He did EXACTLY what MOST of us wanted him to do and we will eventually be a much safer world without the likes of Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Murder Inc. and the regimes that support and pay for such lunacy.

Now maybe YOU and people like YOU want to pretend that those events had no meaning and that a MAJORITY of the worlds intelligence community THOUGHT that Saddam WAS hiding WMD"s and that a MAJORITY in the House and Senate voted FOR the war in Iraq and that 32 other nations joined us. The TRUTH of these events are out there for those who WANT to see it.

As for your stand against this President and others like you, your whining and carping about Oil and Bush's motives are OLD, TIRED, NON-factual statements and the election is OVER. So I would suggest in the interest of our great nation that you move on and we will debate this in the NEXT election. I won't be surprised if the Republicans continue to increase their majorities in the House and Senate and that ANOTHER Republican gets elected to the Presidency.

The Liberal Lunatics still don't get it and the Dumbocrats still can't define what it is they stand for.

Carry on!

I respect your opinion. 9-11 did justified a good reason for weeding out terrorist organizations which should have been done 30+ years ago. We had considered them somewhat like "small-ant" which we can squash 'em easily. Over the time organization grew bigger and more complication which have made much difficult task to weed 'em out. (Sigh)

By invading Iraqis, That does not justify the 9-11's revelant. That is my opinion. Remember Rumsfeld said when our troops march in Iraqis and we will be rained with roses and Iraqi's high officer name A_____(spell) warned, No, our troops will not be rained with roses and we will be rained with bullets. Those Iraqis officers had told truth. No WMD and No roses. To get rid of Saddam was probably for the best thing to do but that is not our problem. Iraqis' problem. Unless world are all for removing that Bastard then we ought to obligate along with them. (IMO) Otherwise UN had abused sancation against Iraqis with "Oil for foods" stuffs....... No wonder why sancation have proven to be a failure!

If you, the Bush lovers, are happy with him. So be it. WMD claims found untrue. I can not stand to further trust him that he is out to destroy the disability people's future. (ie: Social Security) and even young people's future security which is at greater stake. He is too dangerous to be trusted.

So, Go ahead flame away. This is a good education, social, or literature in this DAC's education lesson...... By the way didn't you know that I love you even your Republican or a bad-boy/girl.

JustPlaneCrazy · 04-02-2005, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON

If you, the Bush lovers, are happy with him. So be it. WMD claims found untrue. I can not stand to further trust him that he is out to destroy the disability people's future. (ie: Social Security) and even young people's future security which is at greater stake. He is too dangerous to be trusted.

John, you watch to much Liberal news........

JustPlaneCrazy · 04-02-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

I only hope that Condi gets to be the republican that runs for President in 2008.

I'm hoping for Giuliani in '08

cpal_747 · 04-02-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

John, you watch to much Liberal news........

Just think of all the money GW could have used to fix Social Security if he hadn't been so gung-ho to attack Iraq!

JustPlaneCrazy · 04-02-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

Just think of all the money GW could have used to fix Social Security if he hadn't been so gung-ho to attack Iraq!

I think the terror problem and taking care of Saddam was/is more important.....

cpal_747 · 04-02-2005, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

I think the terror problem and taking care of Saddam was/is more important.....

Yes to the terror problem. Which exact threat did the US feel from Saddam?

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-02-2005, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

John, you watch to much Liberal news........

What an awesome show!

Hey such as Oprah Shows, I fall asleep!

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-02-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

I think the terror problem and taking care of Saddam was/is more important.....

Hey, Care to ask you that question? "Who is Saddam?"

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-02-2005, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

Just think of all the money GW could have used to fix Social Security if he hadn't been so gung-ho to attack Iraq!

Also we have other important things need to be done here than just a worthless bastard, Saddam!

richie154 · 04-02-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHN JOHNSON

Also we have other important things need to be done here than just a worthless bastard, Saddam!

Yeah...like getting that lunatic "Dubya" out of office. Wouldn't that be excellent?

JOHN JOHNSON · 04-02-2005, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by richie154

Yeah...like getting that lunatic "Dubya" out of office. Wouldn't that be excellent?

Hey, Should we run-N-hide as here comes Jim McDonald? or Should we stand-still?

Hapag-Lloyd · 04-03-2005, 07:06 AM

JJ, Richie: Stand your ground.

Richard Allen · 04-03-2005, 10:42 AM

I knew they never had these WMDs. While I'll never forget what happened that tragic day, I can't help but get the impression that Bush decided to go after Saddam because he was perceived as an easier target and one which his spin-doctors could rally up support for. Face it, just before Bush started drumming up support for the Iraq war Bin Laden's trail had gone dead cold. Now we must rely on Pakistan (who might I add are doing a damn good job) to deal with capturing these terrorists because America's too busy getting itself untangled from the Iraq issue. While I'm very pleased with the way the elections went and hope for the best in Iraq, Bush really could have waited a bit longer. In the meantime America could have rounded up more terrorists, and put together a much stronger coalition for Iraq and a much better game plan and perhaps the deaths of so many American soldiers, Iraqi civilians, and foreign aid workers could have been prevented.

I'll agree that the UN seems to have fallen from grace over the past few years. The fact that UNSC members simply couldn't come to a reasonable compromise over Iraq because of national interests, the UN's inability to deal with the Darfur crisis, and the recent scandal which involved Kofi Anan's son in the 'Oil-for-Food' program (which really wasn't working too well in the first place). Whether the UN will ever become the uniting body of the world is anyone's guess really.

James, if you think your immature name-calling will change other people's minds then you're 'DEAD WRONG' (a lot like Bush's WMD claim!

). All I see is someone who cannot articulately get their point across so they think of these names like Dumbocrats (which might I add is quite funny though).

The way I see it, America needs a third way. A party made up of a group of moderates who are more in to smart diplomacy where war is the absolute last resort (the same sort of thing Bush is doing with Iran and North Korea after he tied up all our military resources in Iraq), a party that will lift these protectionist policies which benefit American drug companies, a party that gives people the right to live freely and express themselves freely in a manner that does not harm others, a party that invests more money in education than fuel and farm subsidies, a party that devotes more funding to alternative fuel sources than in to finding ways to get more oil out of the ground, a party that knows how to balance economic needs with environmental needs, a party that is completely honest with its people and does not try to weasel its way out of past mistakes with mindless waffle. Unfortunately neither party seems to be doing a very good job of this although I find the Democrats to be the lesser of the two evils. Call me a dreamer but this third way is just what this country needs.

JustPlaneCrazy · 04-03-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard Allen

James, if you think your immature name-calling will change other people's minds then you're 'DEAD WRONG' (a lot like Bush's WMD claim!

). All I see is someone who cannot articulately get their point across so they think of these names like Dumbocrats (which might I add is quite funny though).

You guys just don't get it, do you? Jim likes to pull your chains and it works every time.....

cpal_747 · 04-03-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

You guys just don't get it, do you? Jim likes to pull your chains and it works every time.....

Still haven't come up with the threat that the US felt from Iraq yet Todd?

JustPlaneCrazy · 04-03-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cpal_747

Still haven't come up with the threat that the US felt from Iraq yet Todd?

No, it's been gone over many, many times in past threads, do a search....

Let's see, harboring terrorists, funding terror world wide, brutally killing thousands of his own people....just to name a few.....

cpal_747 · 04-03-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JustPlaneCrazy

03-31-2005, 02:06 PM	#1
JOHN JOHNSON Mysterious Collector Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,196	Hey, Bush-Lovers! Your opinions! http://www.comcast.net/news/index.js.../31/95265.html What a stupid Bush is doing? He was the one who ignored UN, Germany/France that had asked for more time by pushing his red button for war? Now he is blaming to the "cooker"....... if yall see Steve Segal's movie? What was his rush? How thirsty was he? (Power-ego) I remain oppose his war rheotics as it was clueless. I stand correct that I believe that he is doing all base on his personal reasons to protect the name of Bush family from Saddam's nightmares. So where is WMD that he claimed? Where have our 100-160 Billion dollars went? (That could be helpful to Social Security for the needly people.) What the most important why our 1,500+ (Non-Bush family) people died for? Why are we seeing dramastically reduction of volunteer military right now? There is talks the possibilities of reinsert draft for the youngs. I truly hope that Democrats have everything needed to attempt to impreach Bush/Cheney sometime soon. __________________ Who should I consider? Dumbocrat Clinton or Ruptublican Johnny Mc Cain? Jimmy Mc Donald Help me! Last edited by JOHN JOHNSON; 03-31-2005 at 02:11 PM.

03-31-2005, 08:28 PM	#2
LOT 737-300 ЛЭТ Су-37 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Somewhere near MCO. Age: 19 Posts: 1,157	Seems like you really dislike Bush, I think this was more of an excuse to get the man who tried to kill his "daddy", but hey at least the Iraqis have more of a free democracy (I hope), I always look back to history, remember when the US went into Germany during WWII, there was a group called the Warewolves, they went around killing anyone who supported the Allies, this went on for 10 years before it mostly stopped, I think the same might happen for Iraq, the only diffrence is worldwide support, and the the geography, I do agree though, it was wrong to go into Iraq just to get Sudamm (which I had a feeling he was going to do). Belive me I'm not for or against Bush, but I do wish he did think about other things. __________________ My airport: Nowa Warszawa Int'l NWL http://www.freewebs.com/nwlairport PM me if you want Fantasy Flights. If you are interested in Joining BSA, please drop by our forum and make a post. http://s14.invisionfree.com/Bluesphe...ex.php?act=idx

04-01-2005, 07:50 AM	#3
Hapag-Lloyd Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 2,269	@ LOT: the "werewolves" were around in 1944 and 1945, it stopped immediately after their parents gave them a good whacking. That is because they were small groups of psyched-up Hitler Youth boys who still believed the war could be won (due to "miracle weapons" that never really existed). Germany held its first elections in 1949. There was no danger (like in Iraq) involved in voting. There were absolutely no "werewolves" around after 1945. Especially as most Germans were fighting starvation at the time. @ JJ: Where the money went? Does "Halliburton" ring a bell? No? "Poppy´s" company, you know, and the Bin Laden family invested there, too? Ah, I knew you were familiar with them. __________________ THIS SPACE 4 RENT!!!

04-02-2005, 02:59 PM	#6
cpal_747 Mission Accomplished! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 750	I only hope that Condi gets to be the republican that runs for President in 2008. __________________ They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security. - Ben Franklin

04-03-2005, 07:06 AM	#18
Hapag-Lloyd Insane Collector Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 39 Posts: 2,269	JJ, Richie: Stand your ground. __________________ THIS SPACE 4 RENT!!! Last edited by Hapag-Lloyd; 04-03-2005 at 07:06 AM.

04-02-2005, 03:33 AM	#4
N. Eberhard Dr. Diecast I presume? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 44 Posts: 3,266	Bush Rules...oh were you talking about a person?

04-03-2005, 10:42 AM	#19
Richard Allen Master Collector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 629	I knew they never had these WMDs. While I'll never forget what happened that tragic day, I can't help but get the impression that Bush decided to go after Saddam because he was perceived as an easier target and one which his spin-doctors could rally up support for. Face it, just before Bush started drumming up support for the Iraq war Bin Laden's trail had gone dead cold. Now we must rely on Pakistan (who might I add are doing a damn good job) to deal with capturing these terrorists because America's too busy getting itself untangled from the Iraq issue. While I'm very pleased with the way the elections went and hope for the best in Iraq, Bush really could have waited a bit longer. In the meantime America could have rounded up more terrorists, and put together a much stronger coalition for Iraq and a much better game plan and perhaps the deaths of so many American soldiers, Iraqi civilians, and foreign aid workers could have been prevented. I'll agree that the UN seems to have fallen from grace over the past few years. The fact that UNSC members simply couldn't come to a reasonable compromise over Iraq because of national interests, the UN's inability to deal with the Darfur crisis, and the recent scandal which involved Kofi Anan's son in the 'Oil-for-Food' program (which really wasn't working too well in the first place). Whether the UN will ever become the uniting body of the world is anyone's guess really. James, if you think your immature name-calling will change other people's minds then you're 'DEAD WRONG' (a lot like Bush's WMD claim! ). All I see is someone who cannot articulately get their point across so they think of these names like Dumbocrats (which might I add is quite funny though). The way I see it, America needs a third way. A party made up of a group of moderates who are more in to smart diplomacy where war is the absolute last resort (the same sort of thing Bush is doing with Iran and North Korea after he tied up all our military resources in Iraq), a party that will lift these protectionist policies which benefit American drug companies, a party that gives people the right to live freely and express themselves freely in a manner that does not harm others, a party that invests more money in education than fuel and farm subsidies, a party that devotes more funding to alternative fuel sources than in to finding ways to get more oil out of the ground, a party that knows how to balance economic needs with environmental needs, a party that is completely honest with its people and does not try to weasel its way out of past mistakes with mindless waffle. Unfortunately neither party seems to be doing a very good job of this although I find the Democrats to be the lesser of the two evils. Call me a dreamer but this third way is just what this country needs. Last edited by Richard Allen; 04-03-2005 at 10:47 AM.