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Old 04-22-2007, 01:39 AM   #1
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eBay: Rare Dragon Wings Pan Am B737-400 Billborad Livery (item 200102590875 end time Apr-28-07 21:33:07 PDT)

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Not when shipping is $14...keep it.
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Is it me, or is that a horrible picture of it, or just a bad mould?
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:45 AM   #4
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Not when shipping is $14...keep it.

Relax, Maybe US$14 for registered air mail cost is a BIG thing to you but someone has put a bid on it.
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Old 04-22-2007, 03:56 AM   #5
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Is it me, or is that a horrible picture of it, or just a bad mould?

My picture...appreciated by most collector here, the mould, not the best but not too bad...
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Relax, Maybe US$14 for registered air mail cost is a BIG thing to you but someone has put a bid on it.
.....And sometimes many people bid on eBay without so much as noticing the shipping cost. Then they get the invoice and complain. I sold a model and the buyer wailed & cried that the $6.00 for Priority Mail was too much! Plain as day the listing did say $6.00 for Priority mail and he paid vowing NEVER to bid on my auctions again. Good, didn't need him anyway. I too have to wonder as the last time I got a air mail registered package from HK it was US$8.00 and it was for 3 747 models. Maybe that guy just gets a cheaper rate from Hong Kong Post. Or maybe there's more to meeting your costs than meets the eye.
.....Be that as it may, I'm just not keen on "billboard" liveries. Good luck.
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Old 04-22-2007, 11:06 AM   #7
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US$8.00 is IMPOSSIBLE for 3 B747 by registered Air Mail from Hong Kong. Maybe your friend works in HK post to get those cheap rate.
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Relax, Maybe US$14 for registered air mail cost is a BIG thing to you but someone has put a bid on it.
Let's see....if a person bids the $.99 and wins it at that price, $14 for post is not a problem. But if other boneheads bid on it, and the price climbs to say, $20, then that person pays $34 for a model that probably normally wouldn't retail for that. I don't know why this Hong Kong post is so much higher than anyone else's, including Europe...The highest I've paid from Australia or NZ, or even other retailers in HK is $8-$12, and that was for multiple models. Guess we got to pad the profits somehow.
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Yes indeed, and why lots of HK ebayers ask the shipping price for each item and almost never for 1, to put them in a box? An ex. I buy a model at 7$ shipping 10$ = 17$ But if I buy a second one of the same person @ 10$, you would consider he puts the same things in 1 box and charges you once. No he will charge you 1/each ==> So the total would be 37$, and in Europe the people would say 27$ (pay shipping once) ...
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US$8.00 is IMPOSSIBLE for 3 B747 by registered Air Mail from Hong Kong. Maybe your friend works in HK post to get those cheap rate.
.....Maybe he does. Being only a buyer and not a friend as you put it, he never really felt obligated to elaborate. He always used stamps so maybe it cost him far less using stolen or counterfeit stamps. I did look back and misspoke though. It was two 747 models though I had bought a third from him another time. For all I know that is the difference and is in fact possible.
.....I did recently send two packages to UK via Global Priority Mail (the priciest way) costing $8.50 for 12 ounces (1 model) and $12.50 for 2 pounds (three models).
.....I passed on a model from Singapore. It is a 1/400 scale 757, not very heavy. He wants US$19.00 via Air Mail to USA! I could send that same model to Singapore via Global Priority Mail for little more than half that! He's got a bidder who no doubt will be unhappy when that seller pops a huge invoice on him (I figured the total to be 2 1/2 times the value of the model ).
.....To me, air mail is reliable enough and the added cost of registration is not that cost-effective. Hong Kong Post is reliable and I haven't ever had a reason to distrust them yet. Insurance is often less costly and just as sure a tracker. The vast majority of my HK purchases have been just air mail, nothing else and never a problem.
.....To cover bases, offer various services to buyers. Some, like me, will be satisfied with just air mail. I sent surface once and that was lesson enough for me. No more. Your selling is not unique. Consider this as feedback from potential buyers. You make your terms hard & inflexible and your buyers will be dissatisfied in the end.
.....You can take my constructive critique however you want. Still, I wish you good luck with it.
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I stopped buying from people in Asia, because I was charged $10.00 shipping per plane, and I ended up buying three planes. They did not discount the shipping, so I had to pay $30.00 in shipping. Never again.

Also, I had 2 A380's a customer returned to me from Asia. It cost me $27.00 for returned postage. I will not sell to people in Asia anymore. I can not afford the hassle, and the cost if there is a problem.

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It's normal that I pay around USD15 for shipping & handling, whether from the US or Taiwan or Hong Kong. Although I do get to receive in a week or less if I order from HK or Taiwan.
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Old 04-23-2007, 12:58 AM   #13
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A cheap first bid coupled with an expensive ship rate gets an immediate hit on the back button to move on.
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Old 04-23-2007, 05:30 PM   #14
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I cannot believe some of the "quoted" prices on this thread - $6 priority mail - what on earth does that mean. Look at the published rated from Canada etc - look at Royal Mail rates both for airletter and parcelforce - from here to the US airmail rate is 0.37 pence (approx US$0.75 per 20grams) - an up to 0.5Kgs parcel is about £16 (US$32). That's the price the seller is charged - so suggest you get your facts right before sounding off! (And btw Airmail parcels from the USA take about two weeks to get to the UK) Where you in the US gain is the price of courier post - UPS and Fedex, I assume because of the volume of traffic your rates are about 2/3rds cheaper than here. Recently had to ship a packet to the US by Fedex - weight 1Kg cost as near as dammit US$100 !
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I cannot believe some of the "quoted" prices on this thread - $6 priority mail - what on earth does that mean. Look at the published rated from Canada etc - look at Royal Mail rates both for airletter and parcelforce - from here to the US airmail rate is 0.37 pence (approx US$0.75 per 20grams) - an up to 0.5Kgs parcel is about £16 (US$32). That's the price the seller is charged - so suggest you get your facts right before sounding off! (And btw Airmail parcels from the USA take about two weeks to get to the UK) Where you in the US gain is the price of courier post - UPS and Fedex, I assume because of the volume of traffic your rates are about 2/3rds cheaper than here. Recently had to ship a packet to the US by Fedex - weight 1Kg cost as near as dammit US$100 !
.....OK, Priority Mail = in U.S. 2-3 day expedited delivery within United States by USPS. Naturally the total S/H includes the expenses associated with shipping. The $6.00 was about the norm for such mailings with U.S. It will go up next month with increased postal rates. Priority Mail is quite fast and reliable. I was charged $10.00 once for Priority Mail shipping by a seller once, but he sent it Parcel Post (3-10 days delivery). I gritted my teeth and accepted it as it was really a model I desired.
.....You can quote international delivery times all you want. A lot always depends on customs. The two Global Priority Mail parcels were received within days. I sold a model to a Canadian and the parcel was held by customs there for more than two weeks (he noted the post stamps) and was slammed with paying duty on it besides! Many Canadians have post office boxes in the U.S. and pick up packages there to take back.
.....I can show you auctions right now on eBay where the Hong Kong seller is sending airmail models (737 & A319) for US$5.00 airmail. Maybe he's getting an inside deal with Hong Kong Post though.
.....I feel no remorse on sounding off as you say, both as a buyer and seller. Sure, some postal administrations are more expensive. FedEx & UPS are quite often if not always more expensive than post offices. Their service includes more than just the standard air mail (tracking, insured, etc.).
.....Believe them! There are plenty of sellers, even after eBay claims to crack down on it (oh sure... right!), that think they are entitled to rake in extra profits in their shipping.
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Aside from it all, I still wish him good luck with his auction.

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As mentioned transit times for shipping vary greatly. Ive recd pkgs from Asia within six days and once a package from Germany took around two months.
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Just received a parcel from UK to Malaysia and the postal paid was about 9.5 pound for 1 B747 according to Royal Mail. Having said that the MYR is gaining against the USD but remains the same against Pound so I think s&h would be cheaper if I buy from US now.

There was another time I was quoted 19.95 euros for one A380.
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Old 04-24-2007, 11:32 AM   #18
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I am thoroughly in agreement with those who criticise ebay sellers who overcharge on p&p or only offer courier (whether they use the courier service is sometimes open to debate) but as you so rightly say different countries different rates! A small model from Germany to the UK can be 2Euros normal or 8euros small packet - but if the seller has a contract with DHL the price worldwide is 10euros whatever the weight - I've had parcels containing 150 models for that price - takes about two weeks to get here but at that price who's complaining! But if I send a packed 1:500 scale B747 to the USA cost varies between £5.75 and £6.50 actual postage charge - thats up to US$13 - if sending a B737 (sent one this morning as a matter of fact) actual postage was £2.25 (US$4.50) - nothing we can do about it, that's the charge. And as you so rightly say prices are going up all the time. Canada is horrendously expensive at present to ship from. USA is better and it appears that some far eastern shippers get good deals - but caveat emtor - 99c + $14 for a rare model sounds pretty good to me.
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As mentioned transit times for shipping vary greatly. Ive recd pkgs from Asia within six days and once a package from Germany took around two months.
That is funny. I sent package from Germany to Vietnam within 2 weeks (for normal shipping price), received a package from Hong Kong within 1 weeks (however, with insurance price). But it took more than 3 weeks to receive a model ordered from USA. What are the problems between German and US Postal?
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That is funny. What are the problems between German and US Postal?
i presume that you guys are talking about mostly 1/400 or 1/500 models.

as for me, it took 2 MONTHS, 1 MONTH, 1.5 MONTHS to get my 1/200 herpa premium from Germany using PostPaket in 3 separate purchases (32 euros each) so expensive shipping for such SLOW SHIP.

few days - week from Australia and Singapore and HongKong.

I try real hard to NOT buy ANYTHING from Germany. It's just horrible!
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